DP Dymag Spoke Wheels

tricolore · 16-07-2012, 04:28 PM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3209338550...ht_4820wt_1139

I wasn't sure these ever existed ........ the pairs for sale

16-07-2012, 04:43 PM

cosmicknome was selling some back in march this year, on this site, dont know if they ever sold,

Its alot of money to invest in some wheels

especially if you only do road riding, cant imagine you would reap the real benefits they give in "normal" use.

But if you want it, you got the cash (or credit card) why not, some people spend more than that on a ring.

Saint aka ML · 16-07-2012, 04:55 PM

Well as they are spoke I guess they would not be lighter then your stock wheels, I would expect them to way more. Unless someone knows how much they way I would say it is only for looks. Hubs in those things way a tone, all spokes together are quite heavy as well. However getting a set of 5 spoke carbon rims you would notice difference in road riding, mainly turn in but also acceleration and braking.

slob · 16-07-2012, 05:10 PM

7.4kg rear, 5.1kg front. The rear looks nasty where it's been drilled for spokes. €3000 for a pair of wheels... about the same price as BST 5 spokes, which are around half the weight. The spoked ones are still quite sexy if that's the look you're after.

16-07-2012, 05:52 PM

They looked quite nice at first, but like Slob I couldn,t help but notice the crap looking drilling to to take the spoke. These holes should have a titanium ferrule inserted into them.

Blah blah · 16-07-2012, 07:08 PM

For whatever they cost, that is some pretty poor hole making for the spokes...

gary tompkins · 16-07-2012, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dookbob

They looked quite nice at first, but like Slob I couldn,t help but notice the crap looking drilling to to take the spoke. These holes should have a titanium ferrule inserted into them.

Yep the quality on those is awful for the money

I'll stick to PVM's

17-07-2012, 01:36 PM

They're pig ugly, why would you want them instead of marchesini's?

tricolore · 17-07-2012, 03:31 PM

Personally I like spoke wheels to look at and that's all I'm interested in at the moment. Marchesini are on everything, if I wanted something really special then one of the other brands mentioned would be preferable.

gary tompkins · 17-07-2012, 03:49 PM

Albie · 17-07-2012, 04:01 PM

I didn't like the finish around the holes. Looks a bit chattery . Personally I like carbon and the mix of carbon alloy but not at that price at all. Its a rob and never worth the gain in weightloss and being broke. I would prefer to put wire spoked alloy rims on mine for sure.

utopia · 17-07-2012, 04:31 PM

Getting rid of unsprung weight, and rotational inertia, makes an awful lot of sense, but as has been said, there are better ways of doing it. However, the weight of the hub is less significant because its at the centre of the wheel where rotational inertia is minimised.
They do look nice though, and I like the way that load is distributed more evenly around the rim with a spoked wheel. It just seems to make sense.
Bit of a bugger to clean though, and on a keeper bike such as mine, that's a life sentence.
As for the spoke drillings, surely there must be some sort of reinforcement inboard of the spoke holes....a steel belt or something perhaps.....? If not, then I certainly wouldn't feel confident in the knowledge that my wheels were held together by such flimsy slivers of carbon fibre, with or without titanium ferrules. It may be strong stuff, but its not magic.
I've seen carbon rims without the flanges, drilled through the rim itself in conventional fashion with a sealant strip over the holes so tubeless tyres can still be used. That seems like a more sensible way of doing it.
And then there's the dread at tyre changing time. You'd be hard pressed not to damage them.
They do appear to be cool at first sight, but less so on reflection. Possibly even uncool as they're bling at the expense of function. (though I admit that I was tempted by the ones cosmicknome was selling, at first).
All things considered, if you're after that look then I think spoked allys are the way to go.

Albie · 17-07-2012, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utopia

Getting rid of unsprung weight, and rotational inertia, makes an awful lot of sense, but as has been said, there are better ways of doing it. However, the weight of the hub is less significant because its at the centre of the wheel where rotational inertia is minimised.
They do look nice though, and I like the way that load is distributed more evenly around the rim with a spoked wheel. It just seems to make sense.
Bit of a bugger to clean though, and on a keeper bike such as mine, that's a life sentence.
As for the spoke drillings, surely there must be some sort of reinforcement inboard of the spoke holes....a steel belt or something perhaps.....? If not, then I certainly wouldn't feel confident in the knowledge that my wheels were held together by such flimsy slivers of carbon fibre, with or without titanium ferrules. It may be strong stuff, but its not magic.
I've seen carbon rims without the flanges, drilled through the rim itself in conventional fashion with a sealant strip over the holes so tubeless tyres can still be used. That seems like a more sensible way of doing it.
And then there's the dread at tyre changing time. You'd be hard pressed not to damage them.
They do appear to be cool at first sight, but less so on reflection. Possibly even uncool as they're bling at the expense of function. (though I admit that I was tempted by the ones cosmicknome was selling, at first).
All things considered, if you're after that look then I think spoked allys are the way to go.

Theres probably an inner aluminium band. They probably lay it in there when making. You cannot get strength alone from the carbon. It just has to wear away and spokes will just keep getting loose. I had my wheel laced 6 months ago and not been on road yet but it needs a little tighten here and there.

tricolore · 17-07-2012, 05:20 PM

There's no way I'm paying anything like the asking price. Interesting that the eBay ad states ' not for road use' ? What else would you do with them....

I've pm'd Cosmicnome, if anybody knows another way of contacting him I'd be interested to hear his thoughts and whether his are still for sale.

Interesting how many of us in favour of spoke wheels but probably for cosmetic reasons rather than function... Sport classic wheels would be the db's on a monster ?

gary tompkins · 17-07-2012, 05:39 PM

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=41976.15

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/in...topic=24888.15

http://www.alpinaraggi.it/en/catalog/50332

16-07-2012, 04:28 PM	#1
tricolore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Birmingham Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 227	DP Dymag Spoke Wheels http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3209338550...ht_4820wt_1139 I wasn't sure these ever existed ........ the pairs for sale

16-07-2012, 04:55 PM	#3
Saint aka ML Junior ah to be young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,058	Well as they are spoke I guess they would not be lighter then your stock wheels, I would expect them to way more. Unless someone knows how much they way I would say it is only for looks. Hubs in those things way a tone, all spokes together are quite heavy as well. However getting a set of 5 spoke carbon rims you would notice difference in road riding, mainly turn in but also acceleration and braking. __________________ "I am Lucazade"

16-07-2012, 05:52 PM	#5
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	They looked quite nice at first, but like Slob I couldn,t help but notice the crap looking drilling to to take the spoke. These holes should have a titanium ferrule inserted into them. Last edited by Dookbob; 16-07-2012 at 05:55 PM.. Reason: Correction

16-07-2012, 07:08 PM	#6
Blah blah Upsetting normal people.. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portreath Bike: S2r Posts: 833	For whatever they cost, that is some pretty poor hole making for the spokes... __________________ Power is nothing without control... I have neither !

17-07-2012, 03:49 PM	#10
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16-07-2012, 04:43 PM	#2
PDS Guest Posts: n/a	cosmicknome was selling some back in march this year, on this site, dont know if they ever sold, Its alot of money to invest in some wheels especially if you only do road riding, cant imagine you would reap the real benefits they give in "normal" use. But if you want it, you got the cash (or credit card) why not, some people spend more than that on a ring.

16-07-2012, 05:10 PM	#4
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,714	7.4kg rear, 5.1kg front. The rear looks nasty where it's been drilled for spokes. €3000 for a pair of wheels... about the same price as BST 5 spokes, which are around half the weight. The spoked ones are still quite sexy if that's the look you're after.

17-07-2012, 01:36 PM	#8
Phatty Guest Posts: n/a	They're pig ugly, why would you want them instead of marchesini's?

17-07-2012, 03:31 PM	#9
tricolore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Birmingham Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 227	Personally I like spoke wheels to look at and that's all I'm interested in at the moment. Marchesini are on everything, if I wanted something really special then one of the other brands mentioned would be preferable.

17-07-2012, 04:01 PM	#11
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,033	I didn't like the finish around the holes. Looks a bit chattery . Personally I like carbon and the mix of carbon alloy but not at that price at all. Its a rob and never worth the gain in weightloss and being broke. I would prefer to put wire spoked alloy rims on mine for sure. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

17-07-2012, 04:31 PM	#12
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,546	Getting rid of unsprung weight, and rotational inertia, makes an awful lot of sense, but as has been said, there are better ways of doing it. However, the weight of the hub is less significant because its at the centre of the wheel where rotational inertia is minimised. They do look nice though, and I like the way that load is distributed more evenly around the rim with a spoked wheel. It just seems to make sense. Bit of a bugger to clean though, and on a keeper bike such as mine, that's a life sentence. As for the spoke drillings, surely there must be some sort of reinforcement inboard of the spoke holes....a steel belt or something perhaps.....? If not, then I certainly wouldn't feel confident in the knowledge that my wheels were held together by such flimsy slivers of carbon fibre, with or without titanium ferrules. It may be strong stuff, but its not magic. I've seen carbon rims without the flanges, drilled through the rim itself in conventional fashion with a sealant strip over the holes so tubeless tyres can still be used. That seems like a more sensible way of doing it. And then there's the dread at tyre changing time. You'd be hard pressed not to damage them. They do appear to be cool at first sight, but less so on reflection. Possibly even uncool as they're bling at the expense of function. (though I admit that I was tempted by the ones cosmicknome was selling, at first). All things considered, if you're after that look then I think spoked allys are the way to go.

17-07-2012, 05:20 PM	#14
tricolore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Birmingham Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 227	There's no way I'm paying anything like the asking price. Interesting that the eBay ad states ' not for road use' ? What else would you do with them.... I've pm'd Cosmicnome, if anybody knows another way of contacting him I'd be interested to hear his thoughts and whether his are still for sale. Interesting how many of us in favour of spoke wheels but probably for cosmetic reasons rather than function... Sport classic wheels would be the db's on a monster ?

17-07-2012, 05:39 PM	#15
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=41976.15 http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/in...topic=24888.15 http://www.alpinaraggi.it/en/catalog/50332 __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong! Last edited by gary tompkins; 17-07-2012 at 05:48 PM..