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Old 02-09-2012, 07:56 PM   #1
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M696 Ride Height

I'm sure I've seen it on here before but can't find it. I know some M696 owners have replaced the rear suspension clevis with the one from the M796 to give more ride height. Given the amount it raises the rear have those that have done it raised the front as well by dropping the forks through? If not how much has it quickened the steering?

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Old 03-09-2012, 11:28 AM   #2
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Hi,

The 796 forks as a whole have a different part number to the 696 forks but all the components are identical when I checked them all individually. The 796 does run a taller profile front tyre which will raise the front, so you might find the fork position is actually similar on the 696 and 796 and the tyre profile is the difference you need to replicate to keep your geometry right.

When I changed to 1098 forks and went to an 1100 clevis I took a measurement front and rear on the Monster stock and again after changing the clevis and then moved the forks in the yolks to match the increase in the rear keeping the head angle the same.

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Old 03-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #3
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I always thought that the 696 had shorter forks (could be wrong) to match the lower back end.

To answer your question it will quicken the steering but I have no idea by how much as I've not yet even seen a new shape Monster up close to give even an educated guess.
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:57 PM   #4
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Ah, Thanks

Now I remember Big Oz.....you are one of the ones that have done it. Thanks for the info. I had a feeling it was a long way to go up without altering the forks. Thanks both..
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:25 PM   #5
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696 (2012)
1 344.2.045.1A Assieme gamba (destra) Fork leg assembly (R.H.)
2 345.2.045.1A Assieme gamba (sinistra) Fork leg assembly(L.H.)
3 349.1.362.1A Dado Nut Ecrou Mutter Tuerca 1
4 349.1.353.1A Parapolvere Dust seal
5 349.1.356.1A Rondella Washer
6 349.1.355.1A Anello di tenuta Seal ring
7 349.1.354.1A Anello di fermo Check ring
8 349.1.357 Boccola (inferiore) Bush (bottom)
9 349.1.360.1A Rondella Washer
10 349.1.361.1A Vite Screw
11 349.2.104.1A Kit revisione Overhaul kit
12 349.2.102.1A Gruppo piedino + canna Fork bottom end + sleeve (R.H.)
13 349.2.103.1A Gruppo piedino + canna Fork bottom end + sleeve (L.H.)
14 349.1.366.1A Tappo Cap
15 349.1.358.1A Boccola (superiore) Bush (upper)
16 349.1.359.1A Pompante completo Complete pumping element
17 349.1.352.1A Tubo portante Stanchion tube
18 349.1.365.1A Tampone in gomma Rubber pad
19 349.1.364.1A Tubetto di precarica Preload tube
20 349.1.363.1A Molla Spring
21 349.1.367 Anello OR O-Ring
22 349.2.105.1A Kit tenuta Seal kit
23 771.5.725.8B Vite Screw

769 (2012)
1 344.2.046.1A Assieme gamba (destra) Fork leg assembly (R.H.)
2 345.2.046.1A Assieme gamba (sinistra) Fork leg assembly(L.H.)
3 349.1.362.1A Dado Nut Ecrou Mutter Tuerca 1
4 349.1.353.1A Parapolvere Dust seal
5 349.1.356.1A Rondella Washer
6 349.1.355.1A Anello di tenuta Seal ring
7 349.1.354.1A Anello di fermo Check ring
8 349.1.357 Boccola (inferiore) Bush (bottom)
9 349.1.360.1A Rondella Washer
10 349.1.361.1A Vite Screw
11 349.2.104.1A Kit revisione Overhaul kit
12 349.2.100.1A Gruppo piedino + canna Fork bottom end + sleeve (R.H.)
13 349.2.101.1A Gruppo piedino + canna Fork bottom end + sleeve (L.H.)
14 349.1.366.1A Tappo Cap
15 349.1.358.1A Boccola (superiore) Bush (upper)
16 349.1.359.1A Pompante completo Complete pumping element
17 349.1.352.1A Tubo portante Stanchion tube
18 349.1.365.1A Tampone in gomma Rubber pad
19 349.1.364.1A Tubetto di precarica Preload tube
20 349.1.363.1A Molla Spring
21 349.1.367 Anello OR O-Ring
22 349.2.105.1A Kit tenuta Seal kit
23 771.5.725.8B Vite Screw

So the only differences are the fork bottom and inner tube (supplied as one unit) and this is because the 796 uses a different front wheel and needs a different brake caliper spacing. The outer tube and complete damper element which extends from the top cap all the way to the bottom of the fork leg are the same which makes it quite likely the forks are the same overall length.

120/60ZR17 55W BW 3.5 582 mm
120/70ZR17 58W BW 3.5 600 mm

The tyres look like they will make about 9mm difference.

Also the 796 forks are dropped in the yokes.

696

796


With a wheelbase of 1450mm being out by 5mm will give a change in head angle of 0.2 degrees what that means in handling someone more knowledgeable than me will have to answer.

Andy

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