600 to 900

08-12-2013, 02:43 PM

I'm going senile forgive me ....
Probably asked before

If anyone has been a 600 rider and jumped to A 900 how have they found it?
Much of a difference?

How much heavier ie weight?

The time is now really for me to get stuff done .
I'm a bit teetering and about to have my neck fused bone graft and titanium cage on spine I'm not sure if il recover fast.
I suppose we adapt and you just adapt to bigger / heavier juicier .
Just wanted to know if it is a big jump ..heavier in weight and manageability .
I'm worried I may be more fragile for a while. And land myself with something harder to manage.
I'm hoping to be less wobbly afterwards.
If it is a brute then it may be I stick with 600 engine.

Yorkie · 08-12-2013, 03:29 PM

Mel,

I don't think any weight difference is that noticeable, I'm not sure there is much of a weight difference to be honest.

As for power difference, its better and noticeable but as with all bikes its your twist of the wrist that gauges how much power you want.

Hope all goes well with any operation.

Yorkie

Saint aka ML · 08-12-2013, 03:46 PM

Well well well I just started using monster 695 so can compare that to my m944.

M944 is much harder to ride in town but on open road much, much easier.

Clutch is obvious first dry is heavier. M900 is more jerky down below and as there is more torque mid-range it picks up harder which is good for fun on open road, not so good when there is car in front

It also feels slightly heavier then m695 when taking it for a walk but that could be weight distribution just as well. When riding them no difference to me.

Now next part might just be my m944 but it feels vibration on it is different. Frequency of vibration is different as in on m944 they feel less frequent but stronger. M695, especially at higher speed feels a bit like tingling. Still to decide which one is nicer on vibration front.

Another one, that could be injected frame and carb frame difference but m695 turning circle is so much better. It does not exist on my m944 you lean in to every corner in town or you like a bus.

All in all I find to love them both and I only had m695 for 2 weeks. It is so much more fun in town on daily commute or taking a pillion. Sometimes I just wish it had more torque but I do not miss bhp. Guess lots of overtaking in town on short distances so T is better.
Uh one more engine is more revvy on smaller bike and you have to revv it more to do everything from setting off to fltering to overtaking but that is neither bad or good just how it is.

Dirty · 08-12-2013, 03:53 PM

I think the 900 is about 10 kg heavier. So about the same as having a monkey riding pillion which, unless you've ever ridden with a monkey in which case I'd like to hear about it, is a pretty useless analogy

Albie · 08-12-2013, 06:09 PM

Just more power but better brakes too. Heavy clutch but money to spend can cure that one along with any thing.

08-12-2013, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albie

Heavy clutch but money to spend can cure that one along with any thing.

Cure the heavy clutch for the price of a few well placed 5mm washers

I put 4 or 5 washers betwen the 'top hat washers' and the pressure plate on the clutch pack - result - feather light clutch action for free - my favourite price

Albie · 08-12-2013, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Taylor

Cure the heavy clutch for the price of a few well placed 5mm washers

I put 4 or 5 washers betwen the 'top hat washers' and the pressure plate on the clutch pack - result - feather light clutch action for free - my favourite price

Another way is take 2 springs out. Its all wrong because eventually clutch slip can occur but depends how you ride IMHO. Did me for nearly 2 years I think.

NattyBoy · 08-12-2013, 09:48 PM

Just the torque really mate - The weight difference is a gnats chuff and I'm not even sure the twin brake setup is the step up you'd think it would be. I enjoy the 900 but I've still got a real soft spot for the 600 - maybe I'm biased as I've had two !

09-12-2013, 12:23 PM

I like the lumpyness

Hector has always had a terrible throttle its had bits replaced taken apart and no matter what has been done its always been stiff and a real fight to twist the throttle drives me mental.
I despair of it.
10kg shouldn't be a problem.
I can't fins a m900 in my price range so looks like an engine instead

Id snap up that foggy bike but its crazy overpriced and I don't have that money available to me.

09-12-2013, 12:26 PM

The engine on the 400 is very very revvy so a total leap away would be nice.
And the extra noise and I like loud noisy bikes as long as its not HD shudder feel no love for them!

09-12-2013, 11:14 PM

If you want the power this is still cheap: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-S4-...item27db73742a BUT not a 900!

10-12-2013, 05:42 AM

Not ridden a 600 but I did and do find the 750 a better all round bike than the 900.

Darren69 · 10-12-2013, 08:21 AM

There's a 1000ie for sale on here atm seems reasonable price too.

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=48648

Capo · 10-12-2013, 08:57 AM

Not to mention Scapps bike which already has a glitter tank

08-12-2013, 02:43 PM	#1
He11cat Guest Posts: n/a	600 to 900 I'm going senile forgive me .... Probably asked before If anyone has been a 600 rider and jumped to A 900 how have they found it? Much of a difference? How much heavier ie weight? The time is now really for me to get stuff done . I'm a bit teetering and about to have my neck fused bone graft and titanium cage on spine I'm not sure if il recover fast. I suppose we adapt and you just adapt to bigger / heavier juicier . Just wanted to know if it is a big jump ..heavier in weight and manageability . I'm worried I may be more fragile for a while. And land myself with something harder to manage. I'm hoping to be less wobbly afterwards. If it is a brute then it may be I stick with 600 engine.

08-12-2013, 03:29 PM	#2
Yorkie Anglo-Saxon Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Yorkshire Bike: M900 Posts: 2,485	Mel, I don't think any weight difference is that noticeable, I'm not sure there is much of a weight difference to be honest. As for power difference, its better and noticeable but as with all bikes its your twist of the wrist that gauges how much power you want. Hope all goes well with any operation. Yorkie __________________ NO ICE, GUN IT!

08-12-2013, 03:46 PM	#3
Saint aka ML Junior ah to be young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,058	Well well well I just started using monster 695 so can compare that to my m944. M944 is much harder to ride in town but on open road much, much easier. Clutch is obvious first dry is heavier. M900 is more jerky down below and as there is more torque mid-range it picks up harder which is good for fun on open road, not so good when there is car in front It also feels slightly heavier then m695 when taking it for a walk but that could be weight distribution just as well. When riding them no difference to me. Now next part might just be my m944 but it feels vibration on it is different. Frequency of vibration is different as in on m944 they feel less frequent but stronger. M695, especially at higher speed feels a bit like tingling. Still to decide which one is nicer on vibration front. Another one, that could be injected frame and carb frame difference but m695 turning circle is so much better. It does not exist on my m944 you lean in to every corner in town or you like a bus. All in all I find to love them both and I only had m695 for 2 weeks. It is so much more fun in town on daily commute or taking a pillion. Sometimes I just wish it had more torque but I do not miss bhp. Guess lots of overtaking in town on short distances so T is better. Uh one more engine is more revvy on smaller bike and you have to revv it more to do everything from setting off to fltering to overtaking but that is neither bad or good just how it is. __________________ "I am Lucazade" Last edited by Saint aka ML; 08-12-2013 at 03:48 PM..

08-12-2013, 06:09 PM	#5
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,033	Just more power but better brakes too. Heavy clutch but money to spend can cure that one along with any thing. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

10-12-2013, 08:21 AM	#13
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,027	There's a 1000ie for sale on here atm seems reasonable price too. http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=48648 __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

08-12-2013, 03:53 PM	#4
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	I think the 900 is about 10 kg heavier. So about the same as having a monkey riding pillion which, unless you've ever ridden with a monkey in which case I'd like to hear about it, is a pretty useless analogy

08-12-2013, 09:48 PM	#8
NattyBoy Monsterless again for now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wiltshire Bike: M900 Posts: 3,189	Just the torque really mate - The weight difference is a gnats chuff and I'm not even sure the twin brake setup is the step up you'd think it would be. I enjoy the 900 but I've still got a real soft spot for the 600 - maybe I'm biased as I've had two !

09-12-2013, 12:23 PM	#9
He11cat Guest Posts: n/a	I like the lumpyness Hector has always had a terrible throttle its had bits replaced taken apart and no matter what has been done its always been stiff and a real fight to twist the throttle drives me mental. I despair of it. 10kg shouldn't be a problem. I can't fins a m900 in my price range so looks like an engine instead Id snap up that foggy bike but its crazy overpriced and I don't have that money available to me.

09-12-2013, 12:26 PM	#10
He11cat Guest Posts: n/a	The engine on the 400 is very very revvy so a total leap away would be nice. And the extra noise and I like loud noisy bikes as long as its not HD shudder feel no love for them!

09-12-2013, 11:14 PM	#11
DrD Guest Posts: n/a	If you want the power this is still cheap: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-S4-...item27db73742a BUT not a 900!

10-12-2013, 05:42 AM	#12
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	Not ridden a 600 but I did and do find the 750 a better all round bike than the 900.

10-12-2013, 08:57 AM	#14
Capo You Are What You Is Join Date: May 2005 Location: A Foward Location Bike: S4r Posts: 1,948	Not to mention Scapps bike which already has a glitter tank