Oil leak M900 Filter..

SteveG · 09-03-2014, 01:42 PM

2nd day of ownership and I've struck oil! (Sadly not the make you rich quick variety.....just p1ssing out from the oil filter area

.... .lucky I was at the traffic lights and smelt the lovely fumes of burning oil as it hit the pipes & not mid bend at the time)

I see there are some other thread items on similar for the M900 & it seems not uncommon so I'm gonna be checking them out...

In Fast Show style.. "I will probabably mostly be doing some spannering in the sunshine for the rest of the day"...

Will update on the end results

Flip · 09-03-2014, 02:11 PM

I'm sure it was on another thread that apparently there was a bad batch of filters that didn't seal properly- or of course if it was only recently fitted there is a chance that it got a little loose as it heated up and a good pinch up will sort it.

They are peculiar in that they have seven flats and so the filter tool is Ducati specific and because of the location a little awkward to tighten just by hand so that's maybe all it needs

SteveG · 10-03-2014, 07:54 PM

Easy one in the end.. the filter was obviously "light" hand tightened & shook loose under the heavy thumping..so following the forum guidance I have done it hand tight plus a quarter of a turn using a very large spanner.... no more leaks for now

Won't stop me being paranoid for a while though...

10-03-2014, 08:03 PM

Apologies Steve,
Feeling guilty today! She never leaked oil the entire time I owned her, and I rode up to the arboretum a while back without a hitch, hopefully that'll be the end of it.

Steve

SteveG · 10-03-2014, 08:23 PM

No sweat Steve O.. good to see you again today and many thanks for dropping the box of bits off at the office. I'll be fitting the hugger tomorrow and getting out there again

... See ya around I hope.. Steve G

NattyBoy · 10-03-2014, 08:28 PM

Pretty common - some people actually over tighten them which is just as bad - glad to see it's sorted - enjoy the new toy - doesn't seem like 5 minutes since Steve bought it !

SteveG · 13-03-2014, 06:40 PM

Well... not quite over... The saga continued... after spannering it up as previously and monitoring for any leaks - none evident for a day or two - I decided to ride into work. Arrived grinning .. and then smelt burning oil again. Damn .. Just a drop or two hitting the pipe. Let it stand at work for the morning and then came out to check lunchtime, a few fresh drops on the tarmac - but fired her up when cold and then it was coming out at the rate of about a teaspoon a minute.. damn it... no massive Stilson plumbers wrench in the leathers when I needed them most...

So - today I took the car in with toolbox and oil drip tray & after surfing this forum and other Ducati sites decided to get a new filter - luckliy PDQ in Taplow (more on them later - looks like an ace place to spend all my money..) is a short hike from the office so decided to go for something other than OEM and bought 2 K&N filters (part # 153) as the K&N have the built in nut for easy spannering & seem a bit more heavy duty.

Removed the existing, laid under the bike and checked the seal face etc, all clean - oiled up the seal on the K&N screwed in hand tight and then roughly 3/4 turn using the 17mm spanner.. tested, topped up with fresh oil to make up for the losses and the old filter full and checked & topped again.

Rode home tonight- stopping twice to check but all tight and no leaks.. I hope and think that is the end of it and I'll just put it down to a bad OEM filter. The seal looked fine so a bit of an odd one for sure...

Bring on the weekend!

Yeehaaa!

chris yeatman · 14-03-2014, 07:14 PM

Yeah I had issues with oem filters on my old 750, now using after market filters even though I now have a s4r. No problem since.

Dirty · 17-03-2014, 03:57 PM

Figure I'll ask here. I'm gonna do a filter change soon and obviously a hammer is the way to remove them but I was considering getting technical and using the 'bash a screw driver through it and turn' method. Also does all the oil drain out there or is there another plug?

17-03-2014, 04:19 PM

You have a sump plug, an oil strainer and the oil filter - in effect three holes!

Dirty · 17-03-2014, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrD

You have a sump plug, an oil strainer and the oil filter - in effect three holes!

Resist, resist

Oil strainer? Where is that? I think I've located the plug, 2p sized thing with a hex hole?

17-03-2014, 06:05 PM

Here you go: http://www.ducatisuite.com/oilchange.html

Dirty · 17-03-2014, 07:34 PM

Brilliant DrD, thank you.

Seems more involved than I'd imagined. I'm sure I never bothered with new washers and torques when I've done my cars.

Best place to grab these washers anyone? Fleabay or motorapido?

rollo22 · 17-03-2014, 07:40 PM

I had an OEM filter leak there was a bad batch from memory.
It was the crimp that leaked.
Got a nice new one for free from main dealer who did the service.

Flip · 17-03-2014, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty

I think I've located the plug, 2p sized thing with a hex hole?

While you're down there playing with your holes (so to speak) swap the Allen head sump plug with one of these lovely items:

http://www.avantiraceparts.co.uk/shop.php?id=3&cat=8

Money well spent I'd say as the original is made of Parmigiano.

If you're feeling flush you could even go as far as to buy the correct oil filter tool to save your screwdrivers

09-03-2014, 01:42 PM	#1
SteveG Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Newbury Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 366	Oil leak M900 Filter.. 2nd day of ownership and I've struck oil! (Sadly not the make you rich quick variety.....just p1ssing out from the oil filter area .... .lucky I was at the traffic lights and smelt the lovely fumes of burning oil as it hit the pipes & not mid bend at the time) I see there are some other thread items on similar for the M900 & it seems not uncommon so I'm gonna be checking them out... In Fast Show style.. "I will probabably mostly be doing some spannering in the sunshine for the rest of the day"... Will update on the end results

09-03-2014, 02:11 PM	#2
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	I'm sure it was on another thread that apparently there was a bad batch of filters that didn't seal properly- or of course if it was only recently fitted there is a chance that it got a little loose as it heated up and a good pinch up will sort it. They are peculiar in that they have seven flats and so the filter tool is Ducati specific and because of the location a little awkward to tighten just by hand so that's maybe all it needs __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!

14-03-2014, 07:14 PM	#8
chris yeatman I still have the s4r! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: salisbury, wiltshire Bike: S4r Posts: 1,896	Yeah I had issues with oem filters on my old 750, now using after market filters even though I now have a s4r. No problem since. __________________ What's that coming over the hill.......

17-03-2014, 07:40 PM	#14
rollo22 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moreton-in-Marsh Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,082	I had an OEM filter leak there was a bad batch from memory. It was the crimp that leaked. Got a nice new one for free from main dealer who did the service. __________________ IF ALL ELSE FAILS READ THE INSTRUCTIONS

10-03-2014, 07:54 PM	#3
SteveG Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Newbury Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 366	Easy one in the end.. the filter was obviously "light" hand tightened & shook loose under the heavy thumping..so following the forum guidance I have done it hand tight plus a quarter of a turn using a very large spanner.... no more leaks for now Won't stop me being paranoid for a while though...

10-03-2014, 08:03 PM	#4
Steve'o'M900 Guest Posts: n/a	Apologies Steve, Feeling guilty today! She never leaked oil the entire time I owned her, and I rode up to the arboretum a while back without a hitch, hopefully that'll be the end of it. Steve

10-03-2014, 08:23 PM	#5
SteveG Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Newbury Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 366	No sweat Steve O.. good to see you again today and many thanks for dropping the box of bits off at the office. I'll be fitting the hugger tomorrow and getting out there again ... See ya around I hope.. Steve G

10-03-2014, 08:28 PM	#6
NattyBoy Monsterless again for now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wiltshire Bike: M900 Posts: 3,189	Pretty common - some people actually over tighten them which is just as bad - glad to see it's sorted - enjoy the new toy - doesn't seem like 5 minutes since Steve bought it !

13-03-2014, 06:40 PM	#7
SteveG Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Newbury Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 366	Well... not quite over... The saga continued... after spannering it up as previously and monitoring for any leaks - none evident for a day or two - I decided to ride into work. Arrived grinning .. and then smelt burning oil again. Damn .. Just a drop or two hitting the pipe. Let it stand at work for the morning and then came out to check lunchtime, a few fresh drops on the tarmac - but fired her up when cold and then it was coming out at the rate of about a teaspoon a minute.. damn it... no massive Stilson plumbers wrench in the leathers when I needed them most... So - today I took the car in with toolbox and oil drip tray & after surfing this forum and other Ducati sites decided to get a new filter - luckliy PDQ in Taplow (more on them later - looks like an ace place to spend all my money..) is a short hike from the office so decided to go for something other than OEM and bought 2 K&N filters (part # 153) as the K&N have the built in nut for easy spannering & seem a bit more heavy duty. Removed the existing, laid under the bike and checked the seal face etc, all clean - oiled up the seal on the K&N screwed in hand tight and then roughly 3/4 turn using the 17mm spanner.. tested, topped up with fresh oil to make up for the losses and the old filter full and checked & topped again. Rode home tonight- stopping twice to check but all tight and no leaks.. I hope and think that is the end of it and I'll just put it down to a bad OEM filter. The seal looked fine so a bit of an odd one for sure... Bring on the weekend! Yeehaaa!

17-03-2014, 03:57 PM	#9
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	Figure I'll ask here. I'm gonna do a filter change soon and obviously a hammer is the way to remove them but I was considering getting technical and using the 'bash a screw driver through it and turn' method. Also does all the oil drain out there or is there another plug?

17-03-2014, 04:19 PM	#10
DrD Guest Posts: n/a	You have a sump plug, an oil strainer and the oil filter - in effect three holes!

17-03-2014, 06:05 PM	#12
DrD Guest Posts: n/a	Here you go: http://www.ducatisuite.com/oilchange.html

17-03-2014, 07:34 PM	#13
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	Brilliant DrD, thank you. Seems more involved than I'd imagined. I'm sure I never bothered with new washers and torques when I've done my cars. Best place to grab these washers anyone? Fleabay or motorapido?