YUK Mud :(

19-02-2007, 08:39 AM

This morning on my way to work, i go through from Rowlands Castle to Bartons Cross Roads and through the Funtington Village, I'm used to passing farm entrances and aware of the mud that's sometimes there, but this morning was ridiculous.

From the farm entrance on my left, there was no tyre tracks to follow, no way of avoiding the mud, so i carefully rode through it, slowing down to about 35 mph (it was a 60 limit) but i still skidded as i hit the mud. Heart beating quickly as i regained grip, carried on riding to work, thinking surely from a farm entrance aren't they supposed to try and keep it a little clean? I mean i know it's hard especially in this weather, but that was a flippin joke this morning.

I got to work, and rang the non emergency police line. He's taken it all down and said oh I know where you mean, right thank you i'l get on to the council. I've never reported it before cos it's never been as bad as this before, but what if it was a new rider that might well have braked on the mud had they not have been experienced. Or if someone didn't see it however experienced they might have been, doesn't mean nothing can't ever happen to them!

Headhunter · 19-02-2007, 12:14 PM

As they are responsible for any accidents it could cause, they really should be more careful. It's not like they can hide there tracks, is it.

Glad to read you or the bike didn't come to any harm though!

19-02-2007, 05:18 PM

Glad you're OK

Write to Basil Baird, I think he owns that farm.

I thought they had a duty to try to clear up the mess if it is a danger.

Try going up the road from Funtington to West Stoke, you will need a shovel!

gary tompkins · 19-02-2007, 09:48 PM

Crappy roads have been the subject of a thread on the NABD forum recently...

http://forum.disabledbiker.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1934

and here's a useful quote from it...

Mrs. Ann Winterton: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions what guidance is issued by his Department to farmers and landowners regarding their duty of care relating to mud on road surfaces; what plans he has to publish a code of practice for farmers and landowners clarifying their liability in road traffic accidents where mud is cited as a contributory factor to the hazardous road condition; and if he will make a statement. [37918]

Mr. Jamieson: The National Farmers Union already issues guidance to farmers and landowners about preventing the dropping of mud onto the road surface which they are currently in the process of updating. I have no plans for my Department to duplicate this guidance.

There are specific regulations aimed against mud being dropped onto the highway. Sections 148 and 161(1) of the Highways Act 1980 make it an offence to deposit anything, including mud and manure, on roads. Section 149 of the Highways Act 1980 enables highway authorities to take action against anyone who deposits anything on the highway that constitutes a nuisance or danger. Section 6 of the Road Traffic Act 1991 makes it an offence to cause anything to be left on the road if it would be obvious to a reasonable person that to do so would be dangerous.

and another quote from the BMF that says...

In cases of diesel spillage, mud, or other road surface contamination that is a danger to road users, notify the local police.

19-02-2007, 08:39 AM	#1
Melnie Mouse Guest Posts: n/a	YUK Mud :( This morning on my way to work, i go through from Rowlands Castle to Bartons Cross Roads and through the Funtington Village, I'm used to passing farm entrances and aware of the mud that's sometimes there, but this morning was ridiculous. From the farm entrance on my left, there was no tyre tracks to follow, no way of avoiding the mud, so i carefully rode through it, slowing down to about 35 mph (it was a 60 limit) but i still skidded as i hit the mud. Heart beating quickly as i regained grip, carried on riding to work, thinking surely from a farm entrance aren't they supposed to try and keep it a little clean? I mean i know it's hard especially in this weather, but that was a flippin joke this morning. I got to work, and rang the non emergency police line. He's taken it all down and said oh I know where you mean, right thank you i'l get on to the council. I've never reported it before cos it's never been as bad as this before, but what if it was a new rider that might well have braked on the mud had they not have been experienced. Or if someone didn't see it however experienced they might have been, doesn't mean nothing can't ever happen to them!

19-02-2007, 12:14 PM	#2
Headhunter THFC Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Bike: M620ie Posts: 829	As they are responsible for any accidents it could cause, they really should be more careful. It's not like they can hide there tracks, is it. Glad to read you or the bike didn't come to any harm though! __________________ Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill

19-02-2007, 09:48 PM	#4
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	Crappy roads have been the subject of a thread on the NABD forum recently... http://forum.disabledbiker.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1934 and here's a useful quote from it... Mrs. Ann Winterton: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions what guidance is issued by his Department to farmers and landowners regarding their duty of care relating to mud on road surfaces; what plans he has to publish a code of practice for farmers and landowners clarifying their liability in road traffic accidents where mud is cited as a contributory factor to the hazardous road condition; and if he will make a statement. [37918] Mr. Jamieson: The National Farmers Union already issues guidance to farmers and landowners about preventing the dropping of mud onto the road surface which they are currently in the process of updating. I have no plans for my Department to duplicate this guidance. There are specific regulations aimed against mud being dropped onto the highway. Sections 148 and 161(1) of the Highways Act 1980 make it an offence to deposit anything, including mud and manure, on roads. Section 149 of the Highways Act 1980 enables highway authorities to take action against anyone who deposits anything on the highway that constitutes a nuisance or danger. Section 6 of the Road Traffic Act 1991 makes it an offence to cause anything to be left on the road if it would be obvious to a reasonable person that to do so would be dangerous. and another quote from the BMF that says... In cases of diesel spillage, mud, or other road surface contamination that is a danger to road users, notify the local police. __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong! Last edited by gary tompkins; 19-02-2007 at 09:53 PM..

19-02-2007, 05:18 PM	#3
barbican Guest Posts: n/a	Glad you're OK Write to Basil Baird, I think he owns that farm. I thought they had a duty to try to clear up the mess if it is a danger. Try going up the road from Funtington to West Stoke, you will need a shovel!