New Brakes on Monsters

[Albie]

A friend of mine has been to the NEC today and seen the new Monnies and Paul Smart retro bikes. They are now using two piston sliding brakes appparently. Why. Whats wrong with the ones we have or are they better or just plain cheaper. Can anyone tell us. Does any one know why old fashioned brakes coming back? :confused:

[A Yerbury]

what are sliding brakes?

[Scotty]

cheaper in my book

[Scotty]

cheap **** car breaks are the 'slideing' type one piston operates bothsides awe hf;hsd
i cant describe it but its simple to look at em

[Pedro]

Sliding calipers have piston(s) in one half only and a sliding link to the other side so when the piston is forced out it pulls the sliding half as well.

Typically they lack power / feel and are most definitely cheaper. Don't look as nice either. There's good reason you'll find sliding calipers on budget / commuter bikes and four / six piston calipers on more expensive / classier bikes!

Ped

[A Yerbury]

cheers, ah yessss "the motorcycle guide book" is all coming back now, and brembo still make em? not worth the adverse "cheap" assosciation I would have thought? brem twins arent that expensive to make.

[Richard_S]

i know a man who knocks em up in the basement. good price stuff, even has a somewhat shady side line involving anchor shaped keyrings.

[Will]

A friend of mine has been to the NEC today and seen the new Monnies and Paul Smart retro bikes. They are now using two piston sliding brakes appparently. Why. Whats wrong with the ones we have or are they better or just plain cheaper. Can anyone tell us. Does any one know why old fashioned brakes coming back? :confused:


Are they using these on the front brakes or just the rear?
The new BMW R1200GS 'wonderbike' also uses a sliding rear caliper (they are BMW badged Brembos). Two reasons I guess:-

1. Lower cost.
2. It is not necessary to have a really powerful rear brake.

Will

[Chris]

I noticed that too on Terry's pictures, black Brembo 2 pot floating calipers on the front of the S2R. This is definately a cost saving measure, and loses one of the things that was great about the monsters, largely superbike derived, not budget alternatives! I'm sure the brakes will still be up to the job of stopping the bike, but definately not as cool as the pukka 4 pot jobbies.

[Chris]

Oh, forgot to mention, I have a pair of Brembo calipers for sale. Any offers, new S2R owners!

[A Yerbury]

they will no doubt put the old ones in the dp catalogue the money grabbing swines....

[spacemonkey]

If you compare an original old Monster with the new efforts, the newer breed look decidedly low rent. What happened to all the gold bits etc? Or is it just me that as the years go by, the prices go up byt some specs drop?

[A Yerbury]

which other gold bits?

[spacemonkey]

Well, gold forks for example and frame. The silver lot look decidedly cheaper if you ask me. That's why I'd never get a newer one.

[A Yerbury]

o course! well I'm a golden oldie too. the gold mazocchs are nicer looking and part of the origional iconic monster look. perhaps one reason why the newer ones and darks look a tad bland head on?
mr miffy.

[Richard_S]

i have no problem attracting attention straight on. They love all that eyeballs at dawn shiiit :twisted:

[A Yerbury]

admit it toy boy you d rather the bling factor.

[sidrat]

Sliding brakes were used initially by the Japenese factories for low cost, as the patent for opposed piston brakes is owned by Lockheed and they have to pay them royalties for every caliper they made. So they "invented" sliding brakes.....

[Pedro]

Saw the Ducati stand today and afore mentioned brakes - look sh*te in comparison to Goldline Brembos.....

Oh, and the yellow Monster is a bit eye watering - very bright

Ped