My new M1000 Sie

[velosam]

If you've seen my thread on Random Chat, you'll know I was looking for a replacement for my 620ie, and I found this one sort of locally... only about 170 miles away. The seller's description was overly accurate, which gave me a lot of confidence, so I put an offer in and said I'd go up today to collect.

https://i.postimg.cc/NGNcCPtb/63-CA68-B2-9833-459-A-8-CFF-25-E25949882-B-1-105-c.jpg

When I got there, the bike looked better than I thought. I'm unsure if the SE on the tank means its a special edition, or if that's just a play on the Sie?

https://i.postimg.cc/Qt4ymw7T/C099-DE76-0-BDF-4399-867-F-B355-E07540-EB-1-102-o.jpg

It seems to have an aluminium tank, and the carbon bits form the Sie are all present and correct. It's got a Power Commander, and the Remus/Ducati Performance cans (which are quieter than the SP Engineering ones on the 620!), and the top of the airbox has been chopped off. There's a Dyno print out which shows it makes 87.49hp and 68.78ftlbs at the rear wheel.

Luckily, I'd taken the train, and my riding gear, so paid the price then had a great run home via the A93 through Braemar and down over Glenshee.

https://i.postimg.cc/B6VmHDW5/9-C7-CBDAE-16-A5-4-D97-A6-C1-792-C3872-D990-1-105-c.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/k44j2sHX/57-E32814-D6-FE-4-F8-D-9486-AD144-FF40-FA3-1-105-c.jpg

The 620 is great around town and up to 50mph, but beyond that, I felt as though it needed pushed a bit, especially 2-up. The 1000 is much less stressful to make progress on, and can nip past slower cars easier. It takes more to lean it into corners, but it still handles fantastically.

https://i.postimg.cc/VkqZpdM1/D69-DCD24-80-F8-48-E3-A947-E76-B8-D8-F4698-1-105-c.jpg

Plans for tomorrow are to remove the centre stand and to do a tail chop - the tea tray is cracked, so I feel vindicated for do this... plus it looks a zillion times better. I'm also going to remove the bar risers as the current position puts my head right in the buffeting zone from the bikini fairing.

Overall, I'm well chuffed.

[Mr Gazza]

The stuff of dreams..

[Moco1961]

Congratulations ,what a find! Looks in great condition, nice pics too btw :thumbsup:

[mickj]

Looks like you got a good bike there Sam. :thumbsup:

[Jez900ie]

Nice buy matey. Looks like a great ride home too.

[Darkness]

I like that. A lot!

[Luddite]

You've got a real cracker there, Sam, especially if it does have one of the rare and fabled aluminium tanks! I like the S2R inspired paintwork too.

[velosam]

You've got a real cracker there, Sam, especially if it does have one of the rare and fabled aluminium tanks! I like the S2R inspired paintwork too.

Oh yeah, the tank is definitely alu.

[enbee23]

Lovely bike, congratulations!

[alan s4]

Re the tail chop, I wouldn't recommend, esp living in Scotland. Your back ends up covered in filth even if it's only slightly wet. Bike looks nice and standard - leave as is IMO, it will be worth more when it comes to sell.

[Nasher]

She looks lovely.

Glad I'm not making that decision on the tail chop.
I did mine as it looks sooooo much better, but yours is even rarer than mine.

I suggest like me you just keep the bit of frame you cut off as it can always be welded back on.
If it was me, considering the above, I'd do it.

Nasher.

[Mr Gazza]

I can understand wanting to get rid of a plain plastic tea-ray as they aint the prettiest!
But you can get carbon ones which really do show off the rear end.
Swap the number plate illuminator for a little LED and save a couple of pounds at the same time.
I couldn't be without mine, a handy shelf to plonk things on when your hands are full.. :D

[Flip]

Ahh that age old question and fuel of much debate…… to chop or not to chop?

I’m normally a ‘poop or get off the pot’ kind of person but as Mr G has touched upon there are other options like a kind of ‘halfway house’ of junking all the unnecessary plastics and adding a little carbon.

Here’s mine on my ‘97 900 (definitely handy for putting that cuppa on):
https://i.postimg.cc/6pX6Z1vk/4F60FC53-315A-447B-AB50-BDD685B5D74C.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

And for later bikes (if you can find one):
https://i.postimg.cc/DfSz3GhM/C97318B0-3852-4850-902A-E677FC4E606C.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[velosam]

My last one had it done, and I much prefer it. I'm not really bothered about riding in the rain to be honest, so it's unlikely to be an issue that I worry about getting wet… if that happens, I’m going straight home anyway.

I’d planned to keep all of the bits, and either some lugs and grub-screws can be made up to re-fit it, or it can be re-welded. I’m really not a fan of the tea tray - it was a means to an end to get the bike legal, but doesn’t fit with the concept design intent.

[slob]

Are you sure about an Aluminium tank?!
It looks like a stock steel one from an ‘03/‘04 bike, do you have a magnet handy?

[Nasher]

Ah, an opportunity to get some education.

Is there a visual difference Slob?

[velosam]

Are you sure about an Aluminium tank?!
It looks like a stock steel one from an ‘03/‘04 bike, do you have a magnet handy?

I'll check tonight, maybe it is just steel! It just looked very clean and bright on the inside when I opened the petrol hatch.

[velosam]

Just realised I'm outrageously making the alu tank claim without having done a simple magnet test. :look: :fou:

[slob]

I would expect the seam round the base to look more ‘handmade’ and probably flush and TIGed rather than flanged and MIGed (sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference visually when the welder was a robot). RR tanks have flatter panels in the knee cutouts. It’s certainly a custom paintjob (or a special I haven’t come across before).
I’ve never seen or heard of a stock aluminium tank, but then I’ve never seen a plastic carbie tank but have been told a few exist)

[Darren69]

Shame they messed up the model designation on the tank, I think it should be SiE not SE?

[Flip]

…..but then I’ve never seen a plastic carbie tank but have been told a few exist)

Weren’t the 600/750/900 Darks fitted with plastic tanks?

Pretty sure all those yellow or red framed variants had plastic fuel tanks.

https://i.postimg.cc/9FF0gkMy/C340-BD18-9-D93-45-A7-A6-B5-8-AFA7-EE17579.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/2jx3wYzz/3-F83-C612-E27-D-41-C8-ADAA-197-F1-EC24-D5-E.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[velosam]

Shame they messed up the model designation on the tank, I think it should be SiE not SE?

Yeah, I don't quite understand that either.

[Darren69]

I thought the 695 was the first air head to get the placcy tank around '06-'07?

[slob]

I don’t know flip, but both those photos show a seam above the rear cylinder, that suggest welded steel.

[Nasher]

This is all really interesting stuff.
Anorak training at it's best.

Thanks

Nasher.

[velosam]

I thought the 695 was the first air head to get the placcy tank around '06-'07?

I think it was around 2004, my old 620ie had a plastic tank. I thought they were all plastic from there on.

[velosam]

I don’t know flip, but both those photos show a seam above the rear cylinder, that suggest welded steel.

Yeah, I had the tank up last night to fit a battery tender - there's a seam around the bottom.

[dacs]

I thought the 695 was the first air head to get the placcy tank around '06-'07?

2002 750ie, plastic tank

[slob]

Plastic tanks ‘Darks’ from ‘02, others switched around ‘04/‘05 (usually)

[Nasher]

Are we taking bets?

Knowing what colour the paint is that Ducati used on the inside of their steel tanks I think that unfortunately Velosam will will find it's steel.
Which is a real shame actually.

Nasher.

[Mr Gazza]

I'll go for the short odds and say it's steel, but that's still a win over plastic.. :biggrin:

[Flip]

After a bit of Google action combined with looking through some old brochures it appears plastic tanks were introduced on the first wave of Darks so around 2001 for the 900ie and a year later for the 620ie.

There’s an old thread here:
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=22227

[Darkness]

A change they don’t mention is the battery size and position, which affected the shape of the tank underside.

They moved from the vertical mounting behind the rear cylinder, to a horizontal mounting on top of it.

[Nasher]

UK Monster Anoraks Club.

[velosam]

I have a copy of Ian Falloon's Monster Bible, but it was late last night when I was flicking through, so didn't notice any of this. Will have another look tonight. No mention of the colour scheme on mine though, it's an S4R only. Will have a look at the sales invoice to see if it's mentioned on there. The Performance cans were only £300 quid, and the carbon hugger £150 as extras back in 2004!

[Kato]

Are you sure about an Aluminium tank?!
It looks like a stock steel one from an ‘03/‘04 bike, do you have a magnet handy?

My thoughts exactly Rob, looks like a bog std tank to me, lovely bike all the same

[velosam]

Yep, it’s steel! Magnet confirmation.

[Doggy]

Looks a cracking bike, enjoy!

[utopia]

Yep, it’s steel! Magnet confirmation.

Shame .. an ally one would've been worth a grand on its own.
But what does money matter, really ?
And at least you can use a magnetic tankbag on it.

Its a cracking bike though.
You've dropped on a gem there, I reckon.