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Darkness
30-03-2018, 06:39 PM
Spotted this earlier: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183154166360?ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay .com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11021.m43.l3160%252F7%25 3Feuid%253D3308f89942274f488a07893fb30200cf%2526bu %253D43062517539%2526loc%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%2 5252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%25252Fulk%25252Fitm%25252F1831 54166360%2526exe%253D19401%2526ext%253D50346%2526e s%253D3%2526nqc%253DAAAAAQAAAEAAAgAACAAAAAAQAAAACB BAAAAAAAAAkAAgAAEBgAAAACAAAAQAAACAAAAAABABAAQAAAAG CAAAAAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABQEAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIQAAACAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIAAAAAAAAAg*%2526nqt%253DAAA AAQAAAEAAAgAACAAAAAAQAAAACBBAAAAAAAAAkAAgAAEBgAAAA CAAAAQAAACAAAAAABABAAQAAAAGCAAAAAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AABQEAQAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI QAAACAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI AAAAAAAAAg*%2526ec%253D1%2526sojTags%253Des%253Des %252Cnqc%253Dnqc%252Cnqt%253Dnqt%252Cec%253Dec%252 Cexe%253Dexe%252Cext%253Dext%252Cbu%253Dbu%2526src rot%253De11021.m43.l3160%2526rvr_id%253D0&ul_noapp=true

Not mine, and not known to me, but looks interesting.

It's also fun playing "spot the mod's and later bits": my first contributions are the steering head nut with choke hole, and the frame paint colour/shade.

Over to you Albie......

Dennis menace
30-03-2018, 06:51 PM
Does it include the guitar?

Centre stand looks interesting - didn't know you could fit one.

Nice tidy bike if you like tail chops.

Jez900ie
30-03-2018, 07:01 PM
You want a clean low mileage bike - check this one out, it's done 13 miles...
https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/ducati-monster-s2r-carbon-black-unused.60911/

Rally
30-03-2018, 07:04 PM
I’m wondering if it’s my old one? I sold it in 2015 after doing a moderate resto and it had a L900 plate on it too. The mileage is also similar, the collection of tax discs and manual. The only things against my thoughts are the centre stand, lower fairing and I sold mine to Southampton.
It looks very nice though.

Albie
30-03-2018, 08:12 PM
Looks very decent. It does look like Rally's as the exhausts were always confusing having the ring bands on them. Never seen the choke hole on a 900 so maybe just a replacement. I guess its up to the buyer on price but I not putting the bike down for what it is.

Pedro
30-03-2018, 09:21 PM
Looks very decent. It does look like Rally's as the exhausts were always confusing having the ring bands on them. Never seen the choke hole on a 900 so maybe just a replacement. I guess its up to the buyer on price but I not putting the bike down for what it is.

Some early bikes had the chokes through the head stock, Crust’s Bike has if I remember correctly

Luxexterior
30-03-2018, 11:45 PM
Looks like a nice bike. I am also curious re the silencers & choke. Neither look standard but both do look extremely tidy.

Darkness
31-03-2018, 07:15 AM
Some early bikes had the chokes through the head stock, Crust’s Bike has if I remember correctly

The choke knob moved from the LHS of the frame to just behind the handlebars for the '95 model year according to Ian Falloon in the Monster Bible. The bike for sale has the choke mounted on the frame, (which was standard for '93), but also has a hole through the steering nut for the '95 fitment, so probably has had the nut changed in its near 25 year history.

I don't know about Crust's either?

Darkness
31-03-2018, 07:21 AM
Looks like a nice bike. I am also curious re the silencers & choke. Neither look standard but both do look extremely tidy.

The silencers do look like standard '93 fitment (No chamfers), but have probably not got much inside them. Can coring used to be popular: there are a lot of "How to" clips on YouTube. The rivet bands are a neat and easy way to join the pieces back together after gutting them. Who did this (And when) would be speculation unless someone knows facts for this bike?

Albie
31-03-2018, 10:20 AM
I don't necessarily believe the choke was standard on yoke early bikes. I don't believe they would weld a bracket down on the left for no reason. Has anyone seen a 600 with a side mount choke. This bike I really think was rally's bike as its in the bible book but that doesn't mean to say it's correct. You know I spent years asking and checking stuff and those pics in the book confused as I said. Denis who has the bike the Ducati museum bought from him still has 4 93 bikes in his collection will know as he pointed my almost correct bar ends were wrong. I don't believe he knows nowt as he is in Italy and in touch with Ducati. He is posting me the nos bar ends today gratis

Albie
31-03-2018, 10:39 AM
Still think it's a nice bike btw.

utopia
31-03-2018, 12:18 PM
Its a nice bike but I can't help feeling a bit uncomfortable with the way that the price of early monsters is now rising, this one being perhaps twice the price that it would have been just a couple of years ago.
Ok, I get it that the market has decided that this is the price that it will pay for such "original" models, but that's my point really. Its more about the market than the bike.
It is very different if, like Albie, you do a labour of love restoration yourself.
But to pay nearly £5k for a bike which will probably spend its next years, like the last couple, doing a paltry 100 miles per year and then be sold on for even more money.
That's not biking, its banking.
Personally, I would far rather pay half the price for a later model, with all the little upgrades that a long production run provides ..... and ride it.
Each to their own of course .. other opinions are valid .. but to me the hype around the so called "original and best" model feels a little uncomfortable.

Mr Gazza
31-03-2018, 12:50 PM
Its a nice bike but I can't help feeling a bit uncomfortable with the way that the price of early monsters is now rising, this one being perhaps twice the price that it would have been just a couple of years ago.

I could see this coming a couple of years ago and mused the idea of finding a restorable '93. It wouldn't have had the mileage put on that I put on my 2000 M900Sie, because it would be something of a trophy to be revered and respected for the milestone that it is.
What a shame I never found one, as the market has pitched up much earlier and dramatically than I thought it would. I might have been making a cool couple of grand now.
But don't worry, the prices will go back down again and those buying now will be disappointed...In about a years time, I would say!!

Anyway this was all bound to happen.. I've seen it plenty of times before with other marques, but it is at least a credit to our beloved Monster that it has now attained this "Classic" status

I think that there is a place for nice well looked after and even restored Monsters now and I have given a nod to this by introducing a Concours d' elegance trophy for the Weekender... It's just an added dimension to the Monsters long life history as she grows older and wiser.

Pedro
31-03-2018, 12:59 PM
Looks like a nice bike. I am also curious re the silencers & choke. Neither look standard but both do look extremely tidy.

Silencers look like termi’s to me minus the badges, certainly not the originals as they have stainless bands

Albie
31-03-2018, 02:01 PM
Its a nice bike but I can't help feeling a bit uncomfortable with the way that the price of early monsters is now rising, this one being perhaps twice the price that it would have been just a couple of years ago.
Ok, I get it that the market has decided that this is the price that it will pay for such "original" models, but that's my point really. Its more about the market than the bike.
It is very different if, like Albie, you do a labour of love restoration yourself.
But to pay nearly £5k for a bike which will probably spend its next years, like the last couple, doing a paltry 100 miles per year and then be sold on for even more money.
That's not biking, its banking.
Personally, I would far rather pay half the price for a later model, with all the little upgrades that a long production run provides ..... and ride it.
Each to their own of course .. other opinions are valid .. but to me the hype around the so called "original and best" model feels a little uncomfortable.

It's never about money with me. I have the dilemma of insuring it this weekend along with other classics. Hard to value it. It owes me about £3800 I think. I'm not selling it anyhow and your right. It's nowhere near as good a bike as my 1100s or tbh my scrambler which I just had first mot. Flew through and a joy to ride

Rally
31-03-2018, 07:20 PM
It is no longer for sale, so let’s see where it crops up next!

Albie
31-03-2018, 09:16 PM
It is no longer for sale, so let’s see where it crops up next!

Your garage again ????:biggrin::biggrin:

Fazer
01-04-2018, 05:03 AM
Has anyone seen a 600 with a side mount choke.

AFAIK no 600 had the side mounted one - I have an early 94 600, and the choke is right aft of the bars. In the research I did about 600's I don't remember seeing a side mounted one, meaning I don't believe they exist, and if they do, they are super rare.

Rally
02-04-2018, 06:42 AM
Your garage again ????:biggrin::biggrin:

Not this time mate. I was in Penzance last week and tempted to have a look to confirm if it was mine or not, but decided not to. :)

Albie
02-04-2018, 08:12 AM
I think it was yours.

Christy
10-04-2018, 02:22 PM
The frame colour looks wrong to me. Perhaps a trick of the light.

My 93 is more of a light bronze colour. Nice but pricey.