1100 Evo mods - an addicts tale [Archive] - UK Monster Owners Club Forum

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:34 AM

Here's a bold, (and probably premature), claim: I think I've finally stopped buying things for my Monster. Having purchased just about every aftermarket goody available over the past few years, (#moremoneythansense!), I think I've reached saturation point.

My aims were to replace every piece of black plastic or tin with carbon fibre, smooth out the low speed rough-running and improve the rather "unsophisticated" suspension.

Since I lack either the skill to undertake ambitious projects like 350TSS and Yorkie or the creativity to produce something like MerlinPV12's gorgeous reimagining, most of these mods are just bolt-ons - no skill required! To the casual observer, even another Evo owner, the changes might not be obvious but that was also one of my aims. I wanted it to look as though it came from the factory like this, like maybe an SP version, and I'm pleased with the end result.

We seem to have had quite a few new 1100 Evo owners on here recently so, to show them what aftermarket bits & bobs are available to personalise their Monster, here's a list of everything I've added to mine and where to get it. A lot of the accessories will also fit the 696 and 796 of course.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:35 AM

Working from the rear...

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• Ducati Performance tail tidy (96768109B). More expensive than R&G or Evotech but a guaranteed good fit. It does come with a bracket for the original reflector but I prefer a cleaner look, hence the 20p stick-on jobbies.
• Coupled with Ducati Performance LED indicators (96629909B). These are "plug & play" and come with the necessary resistors attached. Strangely, these only flash at the correct rate when the engine is running; with the engine off they flash at double speed (something I didn't realise until phoning Moto Rapido for advice - embarrassing ��).
• Carbon cap for the seat hump - just for looks. From Carbon4US in Spain (www.carbon4us.com).
• Smoked rear light lens. A straight swap for the OE red one. From Desmoworld in Germany (www.desmoworld.de). Goes better with the indicators, I think.
• Ducati Performance comfort saddle (96766909B). Slightly higher riding position and flatter profile, which stops you sliding into the tank. Much more comfortable than the OE seat over distance.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:36 AM

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• Carbon chainguard from Carbon4US. Very nice quality. A complete replacement for the stock item, including the swingarm guard. However, because the replacement chain runner was hard carbon, it was quite noisy and 'clattery'. I wasn't sure how durable it would be either as I'd also fitted a 14 tooth front sprocket, which brings the chain closer to the swinging arm. I ended up cutting the old and new guards in half and mating the back of the carbon one to the front of the plastic one.
• Öhlins DU737 shock. Adjustable for preload and rebound (40 clicks). Note that, as delivered, the preload was too firm with no static sag at all. A couple of turns of the preload rings did the trick and the ride is definitely more controlled than the stock Sachs unit. The Öhlins spring rate is 115 N/mm.
• Gold DID X-ring chain, mainly for the bling factor.
• Carbon hugger from Fullsix carbon fibre. (http://m.fullsixcarbon.com/) Flawless finish and a perfect fit. A straight swap for the plastic original. Available through Moto Rapido.
• MR rearsets from Desmoworld (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=54406). Beautifully made with plenty of adjustment.
• 14 tooth Renthal front sprocket. To help smooth out low speed running. Gives a boost to acceleration too. No obvious downsides (although, in theory, it could wear the chain more quickly along with the swingarm chain guard).
• Carbon front sprocket cover from Fullsix via Moto Rapido.
• Frame plugs and seat hump washers. Again from Desmoworld. You could argue that they keep moisture out of the frame but I just like the way they look.
• Oberon clutch slave cylinder. Nicely made from billet and eases town riding as it reduces effort at the lever by about 30%. You do lose a little lift, so a span-adjustable lever is a useful addition to maximise travel (see below). (http://www.oberon-performance.co.uk/acatalog/Ducati_Clutch_Slave_Cylinders_DCSC.html)

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:37 AM

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• Ducati Performance billet timing inspection cover (96644908B). Totally unnecessary. I think Craig at Moto Rapido sold me this during a moment of weakness.
• Carbon and stainless cable cover from Carbonworld (www.carbonworld.de). The stainless plate gives it a bit more strength than the plain carbon ones.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:38 AM

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• Billet aluminium valve cover from MVS Performance in Germany (http://www.mvs-performance.de/Ducati-Monster-Sportclassik-Hypermotard-Multistrada-Scrambler-2V-valve-cover) Beautifully machined. I hadn't realised until I swapped them over that the originals are just black plastic. (I thought they were painted aluminium.)
• After experiencing a slight leak from the OE filter, (which tightening failed to fix), I thought I'd try the K&N alternative (KN-153) (http://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?prod=KN-153) These come with a 17mm hex head, which makes removal easy and means you can tighten it to the correct torque (11 Nm) without the special wrench. It looks and feels of comparable quality to the OE version and, so far, no leaks!

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:39 AM

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• Carbon fibre oil cooler cover and shrouds from Carbon4US. Nice quality carbon with a good fit. Bit fiddly to install though. Comes with a mesh cooler guard, which is a bonus. Strangely, the 696 and 1100 have the same oil cooler cover, but the 696 comes with a mesh guard as standard (46013431A). I can't see any reason why the mesh couldn't be fitted to the 796/1100 if you wanted extra protection. I don't think cooling is an issue as I've never had any overheating problems with mine.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:41 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/cCNvqJSL/WP-20170504-17-46-02-Pro.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

• Carbon fibre cambelt covers by Fullsix. Again, a straight swap for the originals and a perfect fit.
• Carbon fibre top exhaust heat shield by Fullsix. Comes backed by heat reflecting foil. Top quality.
• Ducati Performance black billet oil filler plug (96858208B). Looks nice. Not so easy to undo though. One less piece of plastic.
• CT Moto black billet reservoir cover. (http://carbon-trader.com/cnc-other.htm) nice, clean design. Good quality.
• Tinted clutch fluid reservoir from the Monster 1200 (58540231A). You need to heat and bend the outlet pipe slightly, otherwise it fouls the bracket.
• QD Exhaust link pipe to eliminate the exhaust butterfly valve. (https://www.designcorse.com/collections/qd-exhausts/products/ducati-monster-1100-servo-eliminator-qd-exhaust) I got mine from db*killer in France via ebay but they don't appear to stock this any more. Much lighter than the original.
• Homologated (and with catalysts) stainless Termis (96450111B). These come with a more open airbox lid with performance filter and a DP ECU. The ECU disables the exhaust butterfly valve but keeps the lambda sensors. Note that physically removing the butterfly servo motor frees up just enough space under the saddle to store a disc lock. Although it's a DP ECU, a further custom remap is a worthwhile modification (more on that later).
• Evotech exhaust hangar. Allows you to remove the rear footrests. Excellent quality; the wrinkle finish paint is a perfect match for the Ducati subframe. Customer service is great too. They sent me replacement washers free of charge. (https://evotech-performance.com/)

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:41 AM

Back to the front end...

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• Ducati Performance carbon fibre mudguard (969A03010B). Beautiful high gloss finish - a lot better than the early DP carbon that I remember. This also comes with the necessary clips for the ABS wiring (not sure if non-DP guards have this). Painted in a 1200R style by Image Design Custom (http://imagedesigncustom.co.uk/).
• Ducati Performance carbon fibre headlight cover (969A04709B). Another piece of black plastic replaced.
• Nose fairing striped à la 1200R again by Image Design Custom.
• Light tint replacement screen from ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Windshield-WindScreen-Double-Bubble-For-Ducati-M1000-Monster-696-659-795-796-Smo/351709678077?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26 asc%3D40656%26meid%3De936a3f7edba43eab59c24bb44227 d73%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D40110 6752194) I was a bit dubious about the possible quality of this but, at £10 including postage, I gave it a go. Thoroughly recommended. Quality is as good as OE. It even has the moulded bead along the top edge so looks totally factory. The mounting holes needed opening up very slightly but a perfect fit after that.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:42 AM

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• Tinted brake and clutch fluid reservoirs (58540221A & 58540231A) from the Monster 1200, just to update the look.
• Ducati Performance black billet brake and clutch reservoir covers (96180291A). These are actually listed for the Multistrada 1200 and the master cylinder has to be rotated 90° if you want the logo to read left to right. (I made up a new bracket.)
• Ducati Performance bar ends (966320AAA). Much better than the original plastic buttons. Although only lightweight aluminium, they also seem to damp out vibes from the bars.
• Old-style Ducati Performance billet tear drop mirrors (970100AAA & 970101AAA). These have M10 threads rather than the standard M8, so you need different S4RS clamps (62640441A) to fit them. Although they're much smaller than the standard mirrors, you actually get a better view as they don't vibrate like the plastic ones do.
• ASV levers (BRC550-S & CRC550-S) (http://asvinventions.com/C5-Sport-Bike-Brake-BRC550.html) Beautifully engineered and manufactured. 4 inch span adjustment with 180 clicks between max and min. Work well with the Oberon clutch slave cylinder.
• Billet aluminium fork preload adjusters from Desmoworld. Light, skeletal design. Allows preload adjustment without tools, (if you have strong thumbs!). Note to ensure that one arm of the star is always facing forward, otherwise one of the other arms could hit the tank at full lock.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:43 AM

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• Carbon ignition barrel base from Carbonworld in Germany. Note that there are two types; one for non-ABS and one for ABS, which has cutaways for the pipework.
• Carbon fibre filler cap surround by Fullsix. With 1100 Evo sticker for the "factory" look. The OE top hat spacers are a very loose fit in the holes and are easily lost when removing the tank panels, so I recommend gluing them in.
• Ducati Performance black billet fuel cap (96900712A). This is actually for the 1199 but fits the Monster perfectly. Not lockable, of course.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:44 AM

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• Carbon fibre tank vents by Fullsix. Straight replacements for the originals. They attach with double-sided foam-backed tape but I used black silicon sealant for a flusher fit.
• Monster 1200 "3D" tank badges. They remind me of the chunky metal ones on my old AP50. Applied to...
• Cheapo unpainted Chinese tank skins from ebay. Much better quality than I expected. After opening up the mounting holes a little, they were a perfect fit. The edges along the centre lines needed rubbing down by a couple of millimetres as they were tight against the center strip and would have chafed once painted. Painted to perfection by Image Design Custom again.
• Ventureshield paintwork protection. (http://chipguard.co.uk/) Virtually invisible clear film. I had this on my S2R for six years and it stayed completely clear with no peeling or lifting. Highly recommended.

Luddite

08-05-2017, 11:47 AM

Finally, some other things you can't see...

• Rexxer ECU remap from Neil at Cornerspeed. (http://cornerspeed.co.uk/tuning.php)
• Heavier 1100S flywheel (27610251C) (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=54450)
• K-tech fork upgrade. (http://www.ktechsuspension.com/)
• Lambda sensor eliminators. (Not needed after the Rexxer remap.) (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261212263637)
• Blanking plugs for the lambda electrical connections from 3waycomp (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/3waycomponents/) (10% discount for club members) (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showpost.php?p=535338&postcount=40)
• Stainless lambda blanking plugs (2 x M18 x 1.5) )(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-M18x1-5-pitch-blanking-plug-bolt-bung-for-Lambda-sensor-port-/112359313729?hash=item1a29231141:g:RskAAOSwU8hY5Bb )
• Iridium spark plugs (NGK DCPR8EIX). Run with a 1mm gap.
• I also gave the headers a light polish and "debronzing" using this stuff. It works by chemical reaction rather than abrasion so is dead easy to use. The bronzing returns after 5-600 miles but it's a quick job to remove it again.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKBkcC1L/bike-41-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Wow! That list is scarily long! Note to self: never add up the total cost!

Well, I hope that's given some Evo owners a few ideas. Be aware though, once you start, you just can't stop!

bigredduke

08-05-2017, 03:52 PM

Very impressive! I was going to ask how much £££££ so far but it's obviously a bit frightening.

You haven't replaced the nastiest piece of kit on the bike (IMO) though...................

..........the horrible bit of bendy tin that passes for the rear brake reservoir bracket - yuk!

I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement yet.

yusaf1

08-05-2017, 04:49 PM

Good effort! How about that handlebar clamp though?

Darkness

08-05-2017, 05:44 PM

Good effort! How about that handlebar clamp though?

Seconded, but never mind the clamp, what about the black plastic biscuit tin that is the airbox?

Albie

08-05-2017, 07:20 PM

bazread

08-05-2017, 07:30 PM

Been there done that. I made my brake reservoir holder from carbon fibre

Make me one please Albie :biggrin:

Albie

08-05-2017, 07:45 PM

Just remove old one draw around it and cut from 2mm sheet. I had t make mine 30 mm longer as put Rizomas on mine back n the day Mart 64 may take a pic

slob

08-05-2017, 07:47 PM

Hi, my name's Vincent and...

You've got a bad case of carbonitis!

Good job of matching up the carbon parts, ot can be a cosmetic nightmare with different shades and weaves.

garry

08-05-2017, 07:52 PM

ffs..... superb..

Luddite

08-05-2017, 08:35 PM

You haven't replaced the nastiest piece of kit on the bike (IMO) though...........

You've got a good eye, BRD. It shows up even more now it's surrounded by shiny bits. Like Albie, I did think about trying to make a carbon replacement but never got around to it. I did make a replacement front reservoir bracket from brushed aluminium so will have a go a making one for the rear too.

Good effort! How about that handlebar clamp though?

I know, Yusaf. I did think about a Ducabike replacement:

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but wasn't sure about the carbon inlay (ironic I know!). I also looked at the CNC individual risers:

https://i.postimg.cc/J00M2y6X/C-Data-Users-Def-Apps-App-Data-INTERNETEXPLORER-Temp-Saved-Images.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

but then I'd probably want to match them up with some LSL bars - where does it end?!

what about the black plastic biscuit tin that is the airbox?

Noted, Darkness. I did consider it for all of 30 seconds. EVR used to make gorgeous carbon airboxes for Hypermotards and Streetfighters amongst others. I never saw one for the Monsters though. Probably just as well since they were going for over £1,000!

https://i.postimg.cc/76xxStSm/C-Data-Users-Def-Apps-App-Data-INTERNETEXPLORER-Temp-Saved-Images.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

You've got a bad case of carbonitis!

Sadly true. Do you have the phone number of Carboholics Anonymous?

bigredduke

08-05-2017, 09:04 PM

Just remove old one draw around it and cut from 2mm sheet. I had t make mine 30 mm longer as put Rizomas on mine back n the day Mart 64 may take a pic

Interesting idea. What did you use to cut the cf sheet?

Albie

08-05-2017, 09:06 PM

Just a hacksaw and file and a drill. Wear a mask though You could use a dremel mind. It's not as hard as steel

Mr Gazza

08-05-2017, 09:11 PM

+1 for the K&N oil filter. But you do have to put the spanner or socket onto the "nut" properly and hold it on. I have rounded one off very easily and also torn one right off the filter body... That's removing, not fitting.
Mostly they work very well, but don't tolerate any hamfistedness.

Dirty

08-05-2017, 09:23 PM

Blimey, well done!!

where does it end?!

It never ends, just give in and accept it :)

Doggy

08-05-2017, 09:40 PM

Very nice, a real credit to you .

Uncle Bob

09-05-2017, 10:34 AM

Mate, you've got it BAD! Looks really great though, well done.

So often you see people go too far or, just as bad, buy a bike and immediately list all the things up front that they're going to do to it, without a hope of knowing what actually 'goes' with what and invariably it ends up like a complete dog's dinner. You appear to have taken a more measured approach though and the results are obvious. It's super nice.

Having said all that, deduct half a point for the raised badges, I rather hate those, but luckily we all don't like the same things, right?! :)

Oh, and I think it would be a nice idea to post a couple of shots of the whole bike too, just to show off the sum of the parts...

bigredduke

09-05-2017, 10:37 AM

No, I don't agree with raised badgers either, they are much better off left in the wild.

mart64

09-05-2017, 04:56 PM

Just remove old one draw around it and cut from 2mm sheet. I had t make mine 30 mm longer as put Rizomas on mine back n the day Mart 64 may take a pic

http://i67.tinypic.com/207meed.jpg

Luddite

09-05-2017, 05:04 PM

Thanks for the photo, Mart. That's much neater; good job, Albie. The button head screws finish it off nicely. I may well give that a try.

Luddite

09-05-2017, 05:22 PM

It never ends, just give in and accept it :)

I gave in 15 years ago, Dirty, when I got my first Ducati. Actually, I blame Steve Hillary who used to run Moto Rapido from a small shop just round the corner from where they are now. (He's now the man behind Redmax - have a look here at some of his interesting customized Ducatis http://www.redmax-ducati.co.uk/).

Anyway, I only popped in for some service items for my M900 and Steve gave me a copy of the Ducati Performance Monster Catalogue. I couldn't believe the range of goodies on offer. Well, I was hooked and the rest, as they say, is history.

Luddite

09-05-2017, 05:25 PM

+1 for the K&N oil filter. But you do have to put the spanner or socket onto the "nut" properly and hold it on.

Thanks for the heads-up, Mr Gazza. I haven't tried removing one yet so I'll take extra care at the next oil change.

Luddite

09-05-2017, 05:38 PM

Oh, and I think it would be a nice idea to post a couple of shots of the whole bike too, just to show off the sum of the parts...

Thanks, Bob. Since you asked so nicely, how could I refuse?! (Any excuse for another photo!)

https://i.postimg.cc/QCxrWLgq/WP-20170509-17-32-07-Pro.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/Rhsx7PXx/WP-20170509-17-36-15-Pro.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

MerlinPV12

09-05-2017, 08:07 PM

All very tastefully done Mr Luddite, nice job indeed.

chris.p

09-05-2017, 09:19 PM

Just need to upgrade to a set of these or an even higher spec ones :mand:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=542063#post542063

Luddite

09-05-2017, 09:34 PM

All very tastefully done Mr Luddite, nice job indeed.

Thanks, Mike. I've still got a long way to go to match your carbon content, but at least I've got something to aim for. By the way, did you get your engine cover resprayed? If so, were you happy with the results?

Also, I always liked the look of your fly screen. Can I ask where it's from; it's not standard is it?

Luddite

09-05-2017, 09:37 PM

Just need to upgrade to a set of these or an even higher spec ones :mand:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=542063#post542063

I remember reading with interest your upgrade thread back in January, Chris. I look forward to watching this year's track day video to see how many seconds they shave off your lap time!

chris.p

10-05-2017, 05:28 AM

I remember reading with interest your upgrade thread back in January, Chris. I look forward to watching this year's track day video to see how many seconds they shave off your lap time!

:chuckle:, The older I get, the slower I get :worried:

Jimi216

10-05-2017, 09:16 AM

Wow, lovely looking bike! Thanks for the breakdown. I have just started making my monster my own and have started with a beautiful pair of ASV levers too.

MerlinPV12

10-05-2017, 10:39 AM

Thanks, Mike. I've still got a long way to go to match your carbon content, but at least I've got something to aim for. By the way, did you get your engine cover resprayed? If so, were you happy with the results?

Also, I always liked the look of your fly screen. Can I ask where it's from; it's not standard is it?

Morning, cover is a work in progress - I need to get bike down to them so they can have a proper look, but doubt I will have time before TT.

The fly screen is made by Fullsix which came from Steve at Conquest Carbon - lead time is about 6 weeks unless he has one in stock

Luddite

10-05-2017, 11:10 AM

:chuckle:, The older I get, the slower I get :worried:

�� Been there, done that, got the t-shirt!

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Luddite

10-05-2017, 11:20 AM

I have just started making my monster my own and have started with a beautiful pair of ASV levers too.

Good choice, Jimi. They're the nicest levers I've used. I've not tested their unbreakable claim yet - and I don't intend to either!

What other mods do you have planned?

Luddite

10-05-2017, 11:25 AM

The fly screen is made by Fullsix which came from Steve at Conquest Carbon - lead time is about 6 weeks unless he has one in stock

Thanks, Mike. That Fullsix stuff is lovely quality. I hadn't noticed yours was all carbon. The clever way you've painted it makes it look like it has a screen. It fooled me anyway!

Hope you get your engine cover painted okay.

MerlinPV12

10-05-2017, 11:29 AM

Luddite

10-05-2017, 12:29 PM

Just thought - if you want the bottom half of the headlight surround in black to go with the carbon top - you can order the bottom half from the Diesel 1100 version - Snells came up with the idea when I was looking to change the headlight

Great minds...! I talked to Craig at Moto Rapido last year about doing just that. When I found out the cost was about £80, I went off the idea! I've thought about spraying it with a black wrinkle finish to match the yokes but I'm not sure if that would look better or not.

chris.p

10-05-2017, 12:53 PM

Great minds...! I talked to Craig at Moto Rapido last year about doing just that. When I found out the cost was about £80, I went off the idea! I've thought about spraying it with a black wrinkle finish to match the yokes but I'm not sure if that would look better or not.

Just pop down to Halfords and get a can of black Hammerite :mand:

jonzi

10-05-2017, 02:15 PM

Great minds...! I talked to Craig at Moto Rapido last year about doing just that. When I found out the cost was about £80, I went off the idea! I've thought about spraying it with a black wrinkle finish to match the yokes but I'm not sure if that would look better or not.

I had mine powder coated.

wasn't that expensive to do.

Jimi216

10-05-2017, 02:19 PM

Luddite

Got myself a new DID gold chain as it's needing a new (shiny) one, but really struggling with the rear sprocket. Been on to design corse and can't decide between the AEM factory set up or the CNC Racing setup. I love the look of both. But how many miles will I get out of the aluminium sprockets? I have looked at Renthal (tried and tested on previous bikes) and love their products but fancy something a little more special.

Any suggestions or experience of these products?

Luddite

10-05-2017, 05:06 PM

Hi Jimi

My gold DID x-ring is fine. I had a gold Afam on my S2R, which faded quite quickly. But the finish on the DID is much better and still looks as good as new. Also, the Afam only had coloured outer plates while all the DID plates are gold. So thumbs up for the DID.

I've changed the front sprocket for a 14 tooth Renthal and that's fine. I've no experience with aluminium sprockets but logic would suggest they're not going to last as long as steel.

When I need to change my sprockets, I'm going to try a Supersprox Stealth sprocket (part no. 733-525-39-Silver). They have a steel chain ring mated to an aluminium centre so you get weight saving and durability. The centres also come in black, gold or red https://www.supersprox.com/supersprox-stealth-sprockets/

For the front, I'll try an Ognibene silent sprocket

http://www.ognibenechaintech.com/en/prodotti/6/ingranaggi-OE.html#null

These have a rubber damper like the OE sprockets and are supposed to be quieter. I certainly noticed a bit more 'chirping' noises when I changed to the Renthal. Whether that was because of the lack of damping rubbers or because it was one tooth smaller, I don't know.

PS it looks like Damien has gone for a stealth sprocket in your other thread http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=55139

Luddite

10-05-2017, 05:09 PM

I had mine powder coated.

wasn't that expensive to do.

That's a thought, jonzi. The Evotech exhaust hanger has a nice crinkle black powder coat finish. If I could replicate that, that would look good, I think.

Jimi216

11-05-2017, 01:09 PM

Cheers Luddite

Luddite

26-06-2017, 06:28 PM

I knew I was tempting fate when I said I'd stopped buying stuff for the Evo! So here are the latest additions...

When I was messing about with the Lidl endoscope, (looking inside the vertical cylinder), I noticed that the plug cap seemed looser than usual. A quick check revealed that the collar that attaches the cap to the plug had two splits down its length, which the horizontal cylinder cap doesn't have:

https://i.postimg.cc/3NHFL7fg/Picsart2017-26-6-18-03-42-zpsuui4i9rx.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I did wonder if this was some form of expansion joint, (to take into account the higher temperatures of the vertical cylinder), but that wasn't the case. So it's either just worn out or my ham-fisted attempts at removal have taken their toll.

Anyway, whatever the reason, it gave me an excuse to get these nice red silicone leads by Magnecore http://www.magnecor.co.uk/ from these people http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk.

https://i.postimg.cc/tT6zt7kq/WP-20170614-17-49-10-Pro-zpsqr3mttbz.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

They appear well made and fit well, being exactly the same length as the originals. They claim to be a higher spec. than OE and, while I can't detect any difference, I can say that they do their job perfectly and you get both leads for about the price of one Ducati replacement.

So, if your leads are needing replacement soon, I can recommend these.

And then, while I was poking around the cylinder heads, I treated myself to a pair of these camshaft covers from MVS in Germany http://www.mvs-performance.de/

https://i.postimg.cc/L4NSFXRQ/WP-20170626-17-49-56-Pro.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Like all MVS stuff, they are beautifully machined and are straight replacements for the big, black lumps that were on there before. They nicely complement my MVS rocker cover too!

So, that's it - no more spending (well, this week anyway!).

Petej

09-07-2017, 10:47 PM

Cracking Spec! Just followed you lead and ordered the tinted Screen! Exhaust all removed and in process of polishing, and I went for the evotech hanger! Cheers for sharing the mod list.

Pete

Luddite

10-07-2017, 09:56 AM

Great, another addict! :D

Hope you enjoy your Evo as much as I do, Pete.

With the screen, I think it took over three weeks to arrive but, as it's only £10 and postage was free, I was happy to wait. If you're a but OCD like me, you might want to open up the mounting holes a little with a round file for that perfect fit.

Bear in mind the exhaust polishing is not a one-off; it will start to go bronze again after a few hundred miles. But after you've done it once, it's no real chore to buff it up again every few weeks or so (that Solvol stuff is wipe on/wipe off so is really quick to use).

As for the Evotech hanger, absolutely top quality design and finish. You won't be disappointed! Excellent customer service too: http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showpost.php?p=529877&postcount=11

Enjoy!

Petej

10-07-2017, 10:22 AM

First ride out yesterday, love how nimble it is! And just the character of a Ducati.

Yeah I'll do the same on the screen, no real rush new it would take a while to come.

Yeah certainly not a one off job, I'll give it a quick buff from time to time but worth it for the looks, only thing that really lets the bike down from a cleanliness point of view.

Went for the hanger after receiving the tail tidy, really good finish and factory looks.

Look forward to seeing what you have planned next........

350TSS

10-07-2017, 01:40 PM

What a gorgeous bike, with possibly the best engine fitted to a Ducati (air c00led is best)

Luddite

10-07-2017, 06:48 PM

Look forward to seeing what you have planned next........

There's not much left now on my shopping list, Pete. Maybe some LSL bars and different risers.

If you're looking for some inspiration on what you can really do with an Evo, have a look at Merlin's baby:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=55254

That's a real Evo evolution!

Luddite

10-07-2017, 07:07 PM

What a gorgeous bike, with possibly the best engine fitted to a Ducati (air c00led is best)

Thanks for the kind words. I'd love to be able to do a custom build like yours but, as I lack the knowledge, skills, resources and definitely patience, I'll have to make do with bolt-ons!

Like you, I'm a big fan of the air-cooled lumps. The best I've experienced, as delivered, was the twin spark unit in my S2R - a very sweet motor. Unfortunately, the Evo engine is hampered by emission/noise control paraphernalia, which screws up the low speed running. But, once that's removed and the ECU remapped, the engine is a peach. My best one (so far!).

Darren69

10-07-2017, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the kind words. I'd love to be able to do a custom build like yours but, as I lack the knowledge, skills, resources and definitely patience, I'll have to make do with bolt-ons!

Like you, I'm a big fan of the air-cooled lumps. The best I've experienced, as delivered, was the twin spark unit in my S2R - a very sweet motor. Unfortunately, the Evo engine is hampered by emission/noise control paraphernalia, which screws up the low speed running. But, once that's removed and the ECU remapped, the engine is a peach. My best one (so far!).

Yep 1000ie DS motor is best 2V by a country mile, the 1100 might be ok, not tried one but from posts on here its the low speed efi that messes things up. Oh and the 1100S is probably better than the Evo on paper at least, even if it is a bit down on overall HP, so what? The S s looks better to IMHO. But if you bolt all those goodies on then its all good.

Oh btw food for thought you need a yoke mounted steering damper and a carbon subframe and maybe, possibly 1100s wheels or BST.

bazread

11-07-2017, 09:46 PM

You've just racked another £4K to £5K shopping list Darren !!

Luddite

11-07-2017, 10:13 PM

You've just racked another £4K to £5K shopping list Darren !!

That'll have to wait until the lottery win I think - and, since I don't do the lottery, that could be a long wait!

boris

12-07-2017, 09:04 AM

chris.p

12-07-2017, 10:29 AM

How's about this to add to your (and the rest of us) list? Looks quite the biz, got this through the DuN site..

https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/boosterplug-ducati-monster-308p.html

Could be tempted myself if it wasn't for the nice man at Customs..

By the time you have paid for customs, fitted it yourself or get some one to fit it for you, it would have been far easier and not much more to send you ecu to Neil at Cornerspeed, have him Rexxer flash it and have better results.

Luddite

12-07-2017, 11:19 AM

That Booster Plug mod is interesting but, as Chris says, for the money, a Rexxer remap is better value as it also disables the lambdas and exhaust valve.

There's no real information on the Booster Plug site to suggest how it works but, looking at the installation instructions, I have a theory.

The closed loop system (i.e. when the lambdas control the fuelling) only operates once the engine is up to temperature. This is because you'd never get a cold engine to start and run on the weak lambda mixture (14.7 to 1 air/fuel ratio). I think the ECU uses the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor to decide when to switch to closed loop, rather than the oil temperature (incidentally, the Rexxer remap allows you to read the IAT on the dash).

The Booster Plug is installed between the standard IAT sensor and the ECU. It also comes with a second external air temperature probe (the NTC sensor), which must be mounted in cool air away from engine heat.

My guess is that the unit uses this NTC sensor to fool the ECU into thinking that the engine is always below the temperature at which it switches to closed loop and so the lambdas are ignored.

Anyone else got any theories?

Darren69

12-07-2017, 01:19 PM

Luddite

28-09-2017, 12:10 PM

So I won the princely sum of £25 on the Premium Bonds last month and was wondering what to do with it; pay off the mortgage maybe? Or boost the pension fund? So I did what any sensible Ducati owner would do and blew it on some unnecessary goodies from Desmoworld!

I bought a set of their 'Superslim' allen screws for the tank cover http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/ducati-monster/m696-m796-m1100/schrauben/desmoworld-superslim-ergal-schrauben-set-fuer-tankabdeckung-m696-m796-m1100-m1100evo.html

As the name suggests, they have a slimmer, more rounded head than the originals and so look less obtrusive, especially with the carbon cover. They also have a collar machined into them, which removes the need for the separate 'top hat' spacers, which always drop out when I remove the tank panels.

https://i.postimg.cc/rpKjsftt/WP-20170922-12-31-06-Rich-zpssmhmcc9u.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Spot the difference...!

https://i.postimg.cc/fRd6H7KX/WP-20170922-11-59-53-Pro-zpsjixrm3kb.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/DzKRRWjN/WP-20170922-14-19-45-Pro-zpsglayi42c.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Ok, so no one but me is going to notice them, but I like them.

https://i.postimg.cc/pX4wYcDR/C-Data-Users-Def-Apps-App-Data-INTERNETEXPLORER-Temp-Saved-Images.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

chris.p

28-09-2017, 12:49 PM

Oooooh, pretty, wheres my wallet :-)

Luddite

28-09-2017, 02:44 PM

That's what I like about Desmoworld, Chris, they always have something I don't need tempting me to spend money I don't have!

S4R Dude

28-09-2017, 03:12 PM

They do look good though.

chris.p

28-09-2017, 07:37 PM

That's what I like about Desmoworld, Chris, they always have something I don't need tempting me to spend money I don't have!

And I bet they dont lose there coating as soon as you show them an allen key :biggrin:

Albie

28-09-2017, 07:59 PM

They look good. My carbon vani stuff needed them on my 1100s back in the day. They were poorly made around the bolt holes tbh.

Luddite

16-02-2018, 04:33 PM

More spending!

A pair of Brembo Serie Oro discs and sintered SA pads from WSC Performance (email simon@wscperformance.co.uk).

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=56141

https://s19.postimg.cc/edbho38kz/WP_20180216_17_05_10_Pro.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ke96l5v73/)

Can't comment on their performance though, as I've not ventured out onto the salty roads yet this year.

chris.p

16-02-2018, 06:27 PM

More spending!

A pair of Brembo Serie Oro discs and sintered SA pads from WSC Performance (email simon@wscperformance.co.uk).

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=56141

https://s19.postimg.org/edbho38kz/WP_20180216_17_05_10_Pro.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ke96l5v73/)

Can't comment on their performance though, as I've not ventured out onto the salty roads yet this year.

Stuck with stock discs, just changed the calipers (898) and pads for SBS track day pads.

Cant direct insert pic, link below

https://postimg.org/image/rnmj4dvll/

jonzi

16-02-2018, 07:24 PM

https://s20.postimg.org/q8kyfnuil/D1_FA318_B-_A2_E9-4923-8_EE6-_E99250765_F95.jpg

chris.p

16-02-2018, 07:51 PM

https://s20.postimg.org/q8kyfnuil/D1_FA318_B-_A2_E9-4923-8_EE6-_E99250765_F95.jpg

Cheers fella :-)

Luddite

05-04-2018, 09:47 PM

So the start of a new riding season equals the start of more spending!

For ages now, the standard bar clamp has bugged me; it's a pretty basic casting and really sticks out against all the other billet stuff and the carbon, as yusaf has already noted:

Good effort! How about that handlebar clamp though?

The only alternative risers that caught my eye were the CNC Racing ones (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showpost.php?p=541999&postcount=21) but, for at least 18 months, only the black, red and gold finishes were available and I only wanted silver/titanium. As recently as the end of February, CNC Racing told me that they only had those three colours and didn't know when, or indeed if, they would be producing more silver ones.

And then, thanks to the wonders of the internet, I found a place in France that apparently had the silver ones. I told them what CNC Racing had told me but they assured me that they could get a pair of silver ones to me in three weeks. I was sceptical but, sure enough, 26 days later, they turned up. So I doff my chapeau to www.starshop-moto.com great service and excellent communication.

Installation is straightforward, if a little fiddly. Because these are individual risers, they rotate until they are tightened. If they're not exactly lined up, the bars won't sit properly in them. The difficulty is that they tend to twist slightly as you torque them down. Another pair of hands would help in keeping them straight.

I got the 59mm risers as those are the closest to the stock height. They also come in 48mm and 36mm versions but I didn't want to go lower; I've tried the 1100S riding position (20mm lower) and that didn't work for me.

The actual result is that they are 7mm higher than stock. Not enough to stretch cables and no change to the lockstops is needed. The switchgear is slightly closer but not enough to touch the tank. I also fitted button heads to the mirror clamps, which gave a couple of extra mms clearance.

I've not had a chance to try them out yet - it'll be interesting to see if the extra 7mm is noticeable. There does seem to be less of a reflection in the instruments than with the standard clamp.

So here they are, before and after...

https://s19.postimg.cc/qg4lkqzsj/WP_20180405_14_33_58_Pro.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/bwxgjc6nj/)

https://s19.postimg.cc/d0hkupjer/WP_20180405_16_51_35_Pro.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/fhtc1z3b3/)

As with all CNC Racing stuff, the quality is excellent - really beautifully machined - and just the effect I was looking for.

One point to note - these are universal risers and come with 65mm mounting bolts, which are too short for the Evo's yoke. I had to get some 90mm bolts before I could fit them.

Of course, the question now is: should I get some replacement bars too??

Darren69

05-04-2018, 10:00 PM

Much nicer. You could always try flat bars?

Luddite

08-06-2018, 06:01 PM

Just fitted a new, softer, Öhlins spring to improve the ride quality. I've gone for a 105N/mm to replace the 115N/mm that came as standard.

https://s19.postimg.cc/nh2c57z77/WP_20180606_16_44_58_Pro.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/mrjjsuynj/)

Note that, if you're buying a complete new Öhlins shock, you can ask for it to be delivered with a different spring at no extra cost.

Full details of the swap here:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=556257

Mossleymonster

08-06-2018, 09:39 PM

I'm on a 115 and weigh around 80 kilo I'll be very interested to hear your feedback.
Also, if you're softening the rear from what is 130 on an 1100s to a 105 where are you at with the front?
I find my front unpredictable, worse than an old VFR we used to run around on.

chris.p

09-06-2018, 07:18 AM

[QUOTE=Mossleymonster;556266]I'm on a 115 and weigh around 80 kilo I'll be very interested to hear your feedback.
Also, if you're softening the rear from what is 130 on an 1100s to a 105 where are you at with the front?
I find my front unpredictable, worse than an old VFR we used to run around on.[/QUOTE

There a couple of ways around this, you can have the forks e sprung, but you still have the useless compression adjusters and the rest of the rather rubbish fork internals, so not the best plan.

You can get a complete new set of cartridges from the likes of Maxton, Nitron etc.

Or as I did, I went to Chris at K-Tech and he completely stripped the cartidges down and changed it all and fitted decent compression adjusters for under £600.

Luddite

16-08-2018, 11:09 PM

BeePee

17-08-2018, 06:58 PM

When fitting individual post risers like that all you need to do is clamp the bars to them first, not tight enough that you're happy with the torque just enough to line up and tighten into the top yoke as an assembly then re do the bars.
that way everything will stay lined up

Ron1000

17-08-2018, 10:37 PM

When it comes to evo mods. Has anyone tried to go really hardcore and fit things like carbon wheels, carbon subframe and magnesium swing arm?

In an attempt to bring the weight done say to somewhere near 160kg.

It must get wildly expensive.

Luddite

18-08-2018, 09:59 AM

When it comes to evo mods. Has anyone tried to go really hardcore and fit things like carbon wheels, carbon subframe and magnesium swing arm?

You obviously haven't seen MerlinPV12's little beauty, Ron!

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=55254

https://s19.postimg.cc/tqsidd783/C_Data_Users_Def_Apps_App_Data_INTERNETEXPLORER_Te mp_Saved_Images.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

He's got all the goodies you mention and then some!

Ron1000

18-08-2018, 10:53 AM

Ooft. Expensive. But that aside is it considered ably much better to ride, faster, stops better etc etc.

Luddite

18-08-2018, 07:15 PM

There's another lightweight 1100 here:

https://www.gessato.com/custom-ducati-monster-1100r-by-arrick-maurice/

https://s19.postimg.cc/683qouyg3/C_Data_Users_Def_Apps_App_Data_INTERNETEXPLORER_Te mp_Saved_Images.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/ny5f9wc0v/)

Flip

16-09-2018, 12:19 PM

A quick update on the Serie Oro discs and sintered SA pads that I fitted earlier in the year (post #72).

It's been a while since I replaced any pads and I'd forgotten just quite how long they take to bed in, more so sintered pads than organic. Apparently, they are not fully bedded in until there is at least 90% surface area contact between the pad and the disc.

Initially, I thought I'd made a mistake in going for the SA pads as they felt very wooden with noticeably less braking power than standard. In addition, they squeaked and squealed like running your finger around the rim of a wine glass. I even tried some copaslip on the back of the pad - something I haven't done since the days of my CX500 (sorry!).

However, after a little over 300 miles, the pads and discs bedded in and the squealing stopped. The braking power increased considerably and came in much sooner than with the standard pads. In fact the first couple of times I used them in anger after bedding in, I triggered the ABS - something that I'd never managed to do in seven years of riding with the standard pads.

Once I'd recalibrated to the feel of the brakes, I could again brake smoothly but with less effort. I can see why Ducati don't fit them as standard as they could cause problems for new riders, especially without ABS.

As I changed both the discs and pads together, I don't know how much of the improvement is down to the discs and how much the pads but I'd guess it's mostly the pads.

So, if you want to improve your braking power without spending too much, I'd definitely recommend these SA sintered pads - just be patient during the bedding in period.

Flip - didn't you fit these pads to your 900 recently? How have you found them?

Oh, and thanks again to Simon at WSC Performance for the great deal on the discs and pads.

So, not quite sure how I missed this but here's my thoughts on the SA pads I fitted earlier in the year.

I fitted them in time for my little trip over to Belgium as the pads that were in there had been on for years, although I wasn't experiencing any issues with performance I just thought age was getting the better of them. I did notice the pads (also Brembo) were divided into two rather than the three of the new ones - so perhaps better wet weather performance?

I managed to get a couple of hundred miles done before the trip and I agree that they didn't feel their best at that point.

Since then they have racked up about 1200 miles and they feel much better although not significantly than with my old pads- I think the fluid change had the most effect by firming things up at the lever.

Overall, I'm not disappointed or blown away by them and they most probably are an improvement- pads are always a compromise on the road as they can affect disc wear massively which is why I have always chosen to go with Brembo on the Monster as they maintain their claim that their pads match the disc material for the best combination of performance versus wear- at least for road use.

https://s20.postimg.cc/m52vpm9tp/IMG_4326.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/gtnz4wnqx/)

https://s20.postimg.cc/4f174k1dp/IMG_4332.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/66u5zgkqh/)

Luddite

18-09-2018, 05:30 PM

Thanks for the update, Flip, I think maybe changing my discs had a bigger effect than I first thought. Or maybe I'd just glazed my old pads!

And that's a nice gratuitous shot of some very professional looking lock-wiring!

MerlinPV12

18-09-2018, 08:04 PM

Ooft. Expensive. But that aside is it considered ably much better to ride, faster, stops better etc etc.

Clearly I’m going to be a tad biased, but yes to all the above! The Maxton suspension was set up for me by Perry at HM, his work plus the 15mm longer and very much lighter swing arm, wheels and sub frame make it as flickable as a 125, with 1100 grunt. The GPR4X brakes and Brembo master cyclinder make stopping as much fun as the going, I have yet to ride anything with a better front brake. The rear is still pants, even with a 916 master cylinder and updated calliper. I’m stuck on a solution for that...any suggestions gratefully received!

I like my bike too much to properly cane it, but its as quick as I’ll ever want it to go on public roads. None of the mods I have done have overtly been about making it anything other than a project bike that’s been a joy to own and ride.

MerlinPV12

18-09-2018, 08:10 PM

Luddite, just caught up on this thread, great read!

Luddite

18-09-2018, 09:25 PM

I love what you've done to yours, Merlin, always an inspiration!

Out of curiosity, bearing in mind your weight-saving exercise, what springs did Maxton fit in your forks?

MerlinPV12

18-09-2018, 10:26 PM

I love what you've done to yours, Merlin, always an inspiration!

Out of curiosity, bearing in mind your weight-saving exercise, what springs did Maxton fit in your forks?
12st 5lb (ish) rider GP 30 cartridge - first springs were 10, just a tad firm for me so they are 9.5 now

Luddite

18-09-2018, 10:38 PM

12st 5lb (ish) rider GP 30 cartridge - first springs were 10, just a tad firm for me so they are 9.5 now

Thanks for the info., Merlin. That's interesting - I'm a similar weight to you and have K-tech 8.5 N/mm springs, which i find a bit firm. I thought you might have gone lighter with your featherweight machine.

I guess, if you're not chasing ultimate lap times, so much depends on personal preferences.

MerlinPV12

20-09-2018, 02:24 PM

Thanks for the info., Merlin. That's interesting - I'm a similar weight to you and have K-tech 8.5 N/mm springs, which i find a bit firm. I thought you might have gone lighter with your featherweight machine.

I guess, if you're not chasing ultimate lap times, so much depends on personal preferences.

I think you're right, I also still find the 9 firm, but was reluctant to experiment further as there have been occasions when I've been out on B roads when I've thought "this is great, don't mess with it"! I'm OK with the compromise for now.

Luddite

19-10-2018, 03:04 PM

A nice bit of gold bling!

https://i.postimg.cc/BZrZDQsG/WP-20181018-16-57-26-Pro.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mhSGW4td)

An Öhlins DU432 originally made for the Asian market. As with the DU737 it replaced, I've changed the spring from 115N/mm to 105N/mm. More details here: http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=560268

Ron1000

19-10-2018, 04:07 PM

Very very nice

Luddite

19-10-2018, 05:14 PM

Thanks, Ron.

vince53

14-11-2018, 10:07 PM

wowzerr !! nice , I thought I kept my bike clean !! that's on another level * )

Luddite

31-03-2019, 02:41 PM

After this latest bout of spending, I had thought seriously about editing the first post on this thread to remove my statement "I think I've finally stopped buying things for my Monster" as it is patently untrue! But then I thought I'd leave it as a warning to any new owners of the highly addictive nature of Monster modifying! BEWARE! IT NEVER ENDS!

Here's the latest...

Spot the Difference!
https://i.postimg.cc/mkDD4TBG/Compare-3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/wyCHc81W)

More details here:
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=563643#post563643

Darkness

31-03-2019, 03:20 PM

Mr Gazza

31-03-2019, 03:20 PM

New tyres?

buzzbomb

31-03-2019, 05:58 PM

Very nice. Any chance there’ll be some white wheels on it Too?

My thoughts as well...:idea:

vince53

04-04-2019, 12:09 AM

wowser Lud , that's clean as clean , love the front mudguard , I was guna ask where you got that but you had it custom painted as well ? how many miles on that looks like new ! might go for the smoked front screen that's nice as well, so what's the benefit of the 1100s flywheel ? torque engine breaking ?

Luddite

04-04-2019, 09:04 PM

New tyres?

Well spotted, Mr Gazza! Actually, they've been resprayed too!

Very nice. Any chance there’ll be some white wheels on it Too?

My thoughts as well...:idea:

No chance! Been there with my S2R - too much like hard work.

wowser Lud , that's clean as clean , love the front mudguard , I was guna ask where you got that but you had it custom painted as well ? how many miles on that looks like new ! might go for the smoked front screen that's nice as well, so what's the benefit of the 1100s flywheel ? torque engine breaking ?

Glad you like it, Vince. Yes, the mudguard was painted by Steve at Image Design Custom based on the M1200.

I don't get to ride it as much as I'd like so it's only done 9,000 miles.

I don't know if you've ridden an Evo, but low speed town work feels much rougher than your S. Part of that is down to the restrictive emissions stuff, but I think most of it is down to the lighter flywheel.

The heavier S flywheel helps to smooth out the low-speed power pulses and gives the chain an easier time too as you notice a lot less chain slap. Also, engine braking is a lot less fierce if you shut off suddenly. In theory, it will blunt the acceleration a little but, as I'm running lower gearing than standard, I've not noticed any loss of oomph. More details here http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=54450

Luddite

05-04-2019, 06:34 AM

I might go for the smoked front screen that's nice as well

I just tried that link I posted earlier in this thread (#8) and it doesn't appear to work anymore. However, a quick check on eBay throws up this,

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Windshield-WindScreen-Double-Bubble-Fit-Ducati-M1000-Monster-696-659-795-796-Smo/143192437128

which I think is the same one I bought and from the same supplier. Still only £10 with free postage. They also do black, chrome, iridium and others to suit all tastes.

buzzbomb

05-04-2019, 07:02 AM

I'm also a user of the tinted screen thanks to Luddite...:hail:

Must be the bargain of century as far as ducati mods go...:thumbsup:

fastnfat

23-04-2019, 06:18 PM

Mr Luddite, Just purchased a carbon thingy for the pillion cover and I see you also have one and was hoping you could tell me how you attached yours (silicon/ double sided tape etc.)

Thanks

Colin

Doggy

23-04-2019, 08:55 PM

Mr Luddite, Just purchased a carbon thingy for the pillion cover and I see you also have one and was hoping you could tell me how you attached yours (silicon/ double sided tape etc.)

Thanks

Colin

That Luddite fella really is a bad influence on people on this forum . I myself have just parted with some cash on the carbon4us website that he mentioned previously . :mand:

Luddite

24-04-2019, 11:22 AM

Yes, sorry, Doggy and Colin, I am infected with the spending bug and am definitely still contagious. (There is no cure!)

...tell me how you attached yours (silicon/ double sided tape etc.)

For the tail piece, I've tried two ways of mounting it. My first attempt on the red seat cowl works but is overly complicated (I didn't trust the double-sided tape). I removed the rubber pad and drilled a hole through the cover. I then epoxied a countersunk M6 screw to the carbon cap, which enabled me to fasten the cap to the cowl with a nut and repair washer. You have to make sure that the end of the screw is smooth and doesn't protrude past the nut to avoid damaging the seat material. That method does allow you to easily remove the cap but that's really its only advantage over adhesive.

https://i.postimg.cc/8zDQCkXB/cowl1-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I was going to swap the cap over onto my new white cowl but decided to get a new one from Carbonworld (www.carbonworld.de), which I stuck onto the original rubber cap with the double-sided tape supplied and also black silicone adhesive between the strips of tape.

https://i.postimg.cc/pybCqT50/WP-20190424-11-44-59-Pro-3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XBL9vn8F)

I clamped the cap down overnight while the silicone set to ensure that it sat flat against the cowl and it's fine. (I still wouldn't trust the tape on its own though.)

https://i.postimg.cc/PxD2ZYPL/WP-20190424-12-17-20-Pro-3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MMW7Jc0x)

The silicone adhesive is good stuff and I've used it to attach the carbon air vents to the tank and also this ABS guide to the front mudguard.

https://i.postimg.cc/pXw46VtM/WP-20190424-11-38-46-Pro-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/xcP6k2C6)

Don't forget to post some pics of your machine, Colin.

I myself have just parted with some cash on the carbon4us website that he mentioned previously.

So what have you just bought, Doggy??

fastnfat

24-04-2019, 04:29 PM

I think i’ll go the silicone route, i’ve Ordered some of that stuff you use so finger crossed��.
Thanks for the advice and i’ll Put some pics up soon when I've figured out how to post them :-)

Luddite

06-06-2019, 04:23 PM

The bug has bitten again!

If you look back to post #44, the question of the headlight frame was mentioned and it's been niggling away ever since! I've never really been convinced by the grey finish of the original as it didn't match either of the yokes and the finish doesn't appear anywhere else on the bike.

So, when Ryan (Rrawlings) bought my Desmoworld db eaters I decided to "reinvest" the proceeds in a black frame from the Diesel edition (82919673AC).

https://i.postimg.cc/k46KSZZT/WP-20190606-16-43-03-Pro.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qhrNVmpK)

I'm really pleased with the result and the headlamp now looks more "finished" to me; the black now matches the bottom yoke and rear subframe so doesn't stand out anymore.

A bit extravagant for a small cosmetic tweak I'll admit but, when the itch strikes you've just gotta scratch it!

Luddite

12-07-2019, 08:23 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/Dwfvh7Zn/Termis-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/KRVSrSBH)

Termignoni stickers removed and replaced by laser engraved versions courtesy of PMP Laser Technology in Havant https://www.pmplasertechnology.co.uk/ (More details here http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=566914&posted=1#post566914 )

Also, while the exhaust was off, I was cleaning the rear caliper and noticed that the pads were getting low, so a quick call to Simon at WSC Performance https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/wscperformance and a set of Brembo 7BB2035 pads were on their way for £20 including postage.

I thought I'd bleed the brake while I was at it, (although it seemed fine), and I read recently that, to fully bleed the system, you should activate the Anti-lock system prior to bleeding. So I got the ABS pulsing before removing the caliper and flipping it and, sure enough, a couple of bubbles came out. So perhaps there's something in the ABS advice after all. Of course, a problem arises if you don't initially have enough pressure to trigger the ABS; you'd have to bleed it, reassemble everything, go for a ride to activate the ABS, then disassemble it all again to do the final bleed.

Luddite

23-11-2020, 02:08 PM

I can't believe I haven't done anything to the Evo for over a year! But as far as mods for the Evo go, I think I've reached the point where the law of diminishing returns is kicking in. The things that I can do, (or am prepared to do - no suggestions of carbon wheels please!), are few and far between now and the effects on the bike, minimal.

I do hope neither 350TSS nor buzzer post any updates of their mods today, as I'd be ashamed to call this a "mod" in their company! Let's refer to it as a "tweak" instead. It's cheap and quick, (£10 and 10 minutes), and it does slightly change the look and feel of the bars.

I'd noticed that one of my stock grips had a slight nick and, being a bit anal about such things, I planned to change it. But, rather than a straight replacement, I fancied something different so went for a set of Domino grips. While I like the pattern of their A250 Road Racing grips, they only come in two-tone with no plain black option. So I went for the Dakar grips, which have the same pattern as the original 1993 Monsters, (if that style's good enough for Albie, it's good enough for me!).

I got mine from Bike Torque Racing https://www.biketorqueracing.co.uk/buy/domino-pair-grips-domino/1128824006-1.htm#eq1

Be aware that Ducati grips tend to be longer than many other marques, 128mm as against 120mm - 125mm for, say, Honda or Yamaha, so check the grip size before ordering.

No glue needed, just a judicious application of alcohol and job done. They feel a lot softer, thinner and grippier than stock. I've not ridden with them yet but like the way they look and feel in the garage.

https://i.postimg.cc/TYdhNNhr/grips.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K4WZRNPz)

Ron1000

23-11-2020, 02:14 PM

Almost the first thing I do to all my bikes, get the grips off and get nice aftermarket ones on. My grip of choice is the progrip 717 grip.

Darkness

23-11-2020, 02:30 PM

Your handlebar grip of choice is the current Domino version of the original Tommaselli Monster grips @Luddite.

Luddite

23-11-2020, 03:21 PM

Your handlebar grip of choice is the current Domino version of the original Tommaselli Monster grips @Luddite.

No wonder it looks so at home!

Doggy

23-11-2020, 04:45 PM

Nice tweek! . I was thinking about some different grips, how was the throttle side to replace? Was it a pain or awkward due to the throttle tube?

Ron1000

23-11-2020, 04:50 PM

Doggy. Throttle side grip is slightly bigger ID so is no harder or easier than the clutch side.

350TSS

23-11-2020, 04:54 PM

Luddite: I do not think I should be mentioned in the same breath as Buzzer as he is a proper engineer and I am just a shed bodger. A fact proven by my originally mismatched hand-grips solved by buying some cricket bat handle rubber for £2 off e bay which was rolled on (like some other rubber products) and lock wired in place. Cutting the ends neatly was a challenge but it does have two advantages, first, the OD of the grip increases by about 5mm and second, the double thickness of rubber gives a very good insulation from any vibration.

Luddite

23-11-2020, 05:10 PM

Don't be so modest, Richard. If there was a Roll of Honour for this forum, I'd have a number of nominations including, but not limited to, (I can't list them all), you, buzzer, Kato, Albie... basically, anyone who inspires me.

Looking forward to reading your next update, (as long as it's not today!).

Luddite

23-11-2020, 05:22 PM

Nice tweek! . I was thinking about some different grips, how was the throttle side to replace? Was it a pain or awkward due to the throttle tube?

As Ron said, it's no problem at all. I took ten minutes from start to finish. Just note there is a large flange at the switch end and a small lip on the open end over which you have to slide the grip. Just ease a screwdriver in between the grip and throttle tube then spray some chain cleaner or similar into the gap. Work the screwdriver around the circumference and down the length if the grip and the grip should slide off easily.

When fitting the new grips, use alcohol as a cleaner and lubricant and slide the grips on. Just be sure to locate the recesses on the throttle grip with the large flange and small lip. Once the alcohol evaporates, after about ten minutes, you'll find the grips are completely secure.

slob

23-11-2020, 05:41 PM

I keep a ‘handbag size’ Silvikrin, extra-hold (unscented) hairspray can in the garage.
A quick squirt acts as a lubricant when wet and mild glue once evaporated.

Darkness

23-11-2020, 05:50 PM

I keep a ‘handbag size’ Silvikrin, extra-hold (unscented) hairspray can in the garage.
A quick squirt acts as a lubricant when wet and mild glue once evaporated.

I’m not sure if it’s Silvrikin, or some equivalent product, but I ask wifey nicely when I need some to get new grips on. It works very well provided you get on with it.

slob

23-11-2020, 05:54 PM

... sorry, “other brands are available” ;-)

Doggy

23-11-2020, 06:35 PM

Doggy. Throttle side grip is slightly bigger ID so is no harder or easier than the clutch side.

Thanks Ron

Doggy

23-11-2020, 06:42 PM

I keep a ‘handbag size’ Silvikrin, extra-hold (unscented) hairspray can in the garage.
A quick squirt acts as a lubricant when wet and mild glue once evaporated.

Ah yes, the only time I replaced a pair of grips, about 10 years ago was on a gsxr 600k1 and put renthal grips on.
A mate told me to use hairspray and I thought he was winding me up!. After watching me struggle for 10 mins I have in and used the hairspray, job done in no time!!

Bitza

23-11-2020, 10:11 PM

Well now you've done the carbon thing, why not try titanium now that is an expensive habit, truly addictive. Bitza

mickj

24-11-2020, 09:25 AM

I find most grips way too thin so often cover them with a length of cricket bat rubber to make them thicker but I'm still on the look out for thicker grips.

Luddite

24-11-2020, 10:44 AM

Well now you've done the carbon thing, why not try titanium now that is an expensive habit, truly addictive. Bitza

Don't tempt me! (Bad man! :devil:)

Mr Gazza

24-11-2020, 10:58 AM

I find most grips way too thin so often cover them with a length of cricket bat rubber to make them thicker but I'm still on the look out for thicker grips.

How about some 70's era NVT anti-vibration grips?... You know you've got something in your hands with a pair of those!!
Personally I often used to change them for for more normal Wassell grips as they are more comfortable and feel more precise somehow.

https://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/handlebar-standard-grips-for-norton-pair-7-8_2356.htm

https://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/handlebar-grips-gel-brown-7-8_4103.htm

https://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/handlebar-ariete-grips-made-from-soft-black-rubber-7-8-pr_2357.htm

https://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/handlebar-grips-bolton-black_4355.htm

RGM is good company to deal with. Normally next day delivery.

the lodger

24-11-2020, 12:00 PM

Gazza, which of these grips would be the most effective for reducing a high speed handlebar buzz ?

Asking for a friend who has a Honda.

Mr Gazza

24-11-2020, 12:26 PM

Gazza, which of these grips would be the most effective for reducing a high speed handlebar buzz ?

Asking for a friend who has a Honda.

I'm afraid I couldn't really say with any authority. My experience with the original NVT fat grips was that they didn't really have a huge impact on the vibration, as I said, I often used to swap them for thinner ones.

The Ariete ones look like a good bet and possibly the Brown gel ones? Cheap enough to try out anyway.

People tend to try different bar weights these days. I think it's a matter of breaking the resonance at the annoying frequencies. I would also try it out without stalk mirrors, if they are used, and see if they affect things? Maybe even different bars, or swap it out for a Ducati.. :mand:

Pedro

24-11-2020, 05:37 PM

I find most grips way too thin so often cover them with a length of cricket bat rubber to make them thicker but I'm still on the look out for thicker grips.

Look up Grip Puppies on fleabay, have them on my 12R after suffering with a sore hand, work just fine and fit over stock grips

Luddite

19-04-2021, 04:13 PM

Not a very exciting addition here, but useful nonetheless. A dash protector kit courtesy of Matt at Speedo Angels.

https://i.postimg.cc/T16vQDxj/IMG-20210415-135200-9.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nj0WhMCM)

More details here:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=585434#post585434

crawsue

19-12-2021, 12:01 PM

Resurrecting Vince’s addictive thread about the bling thing , has anyone fitted a CF swingarm cover ? It’s about the only part of Vince’s paintwork untouched....!!!
PS, a Merry Healthy Christmas to all Forum contributors...it’s my “go-to” read on cold, sometimes wet Glasgow days....thanks guys. Crawford.

Luddite

19-12-2021, 05:15 PM

...has anyone fitted a CF swingarm cover ? It’s about the only part of Vince’s paintwork untouched....!!!

You mean something like this, Crawford?

https://i.postimg.cc/k4MqKFVq/796-1100-2-PG-711x400.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Is that on your Christmas list? Hope you have a happy one. :thumbsup:

crawsue

20-12-2021, 10:14 AM

Taking “ bling” to the next level.....do they just “glue” on, Vince ? Would it entail chain removal? My pal has carbon “protectors” on the top frame rails of his Gixer, they do look trick! Merry Christmas.

Luddite

20-12-2021, 12:46 PM

In my experience, (I had something similar on my T595), they're fixed using double-sided tape. I'd recommend backing that up with silicon adhesive and clamping it against the swinging arm overnight to ensure a secure and tight fit.

That design looks like a shell, which just fits over the outer face of the swinging arm so you shouldn't need to disturb the chain.

If Santa brings you one don't forget to post up some pics!

Luddite

07-05-2022, 04:58 PM

Well, since it's been over a year since I last added anything to the Evo, you'd be forgiven for thinking this thread was now defunct. I certainly wasn't planning any more additions but, as every Monster owner knows, when it comes to mods, never say never...

So when, quite unexpectedly, the opportunity to acquire this little beauty came up, I just couldn't turn it down.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKvxM1s0/Screenshot-20220507-175310-2.png (https://postimg.cc/8jDvFnSV)

It's the 'other' Ducati Performance saddle (96995409B) with the carbon tail piece made by Carbonvani. While the DP saddle itself is no longer available, the tail piece on its own is actually still shown on the Carbonvani site if anyone wants one http://www.carbonvani.com/en/prodotti-carbonvani/accessori_ducati_monster_696_1100.php As you see, they also do a red version.

https://i.postimg.cc/QMXZvcGV/DM-05A.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

While I knew they existed, (I think Albie, Cobra88 and MerlinPV12 have had them), I'd never considered tracking one down myself (I've already got two saddles after all). But when a friend of mine, (thanks, Ezio! :thumbsup:) said he was selling his 696, (which he'd bought with the saddle), and offered to sell me the seat separately, I thought - when else am I likely to get that opportunity again? So I snapped it up.

And, although I'd never particularly wanted one, I'm very glad I did. The quality of the carbon and paintwork is superb and the carbon weave is identical to the other goodies on the bike. I bought it sight unseen so hadn't realised until I picked it up that the white of the number boards is actually pearl rather than plain, so is a perfect match for the rest of the bodywork. The white stitching goes well with the tank panels too.

The slightly different shape of the tail piece gives the back end a pleasing silhouette, I think, and makes it look a bit sleeker. (Strange, as it's actually wider than stock.)

This is the saddle fitted and shown compared with the regular tail piece. The mesh inserts don't do anything, of course, but they're quite neat and give the unit a 'complete' look.

https://i.postimg.cc/sx6H4728/Picsart-22-05-07-17-46-10-391.jpg (https://postimg.cc/D4Gc2WLd)

https://i.postimg.cc/BbQwFMJH/Picsart-22-05-07-17-47-00-398.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CBXNTCBx)

The saddle itself appears to be the same as the DP comfort seat just with a different (alcantara?) cover and, as owning three saddles might be considered greedy, I might have a regular DP comfort seat on offer shortly if anyone's interested.

So, is this the last mod...? I wonder.

Jam911

07-05-2022, 05:05 PM

Looks great

Albie

07-05-2022, 08:22 PM

I had that saddle on mine. Along with the carbonvani tank panels. They listed at £500 back then but I paid half that secondhand from another member along with some rizoma rearsets. It's only half a saddle though underneath. The fabric though doesnt hold up to well and Mart 64 I think got it recovered eventually.

Luddite

08-05-2022, 10:46 AM

The fabric though doesnt hold up to well and Mart 64 I think got it recovered eventually.

Thanks for the info Albie. Mine's pretty much as new at the moment so I shouldn't have to worry about that for a while. But, when the time comes, maybe a good excuse for a nice diamond-stitched cover!

Moco1961

08-05-2022, 12:02 PM

That’s a real “ find Vince, complements the rest of the bike perfectly, like you say…never say never!:chuckle:

Luddite

08-05-2022, 06:03 PM

That’s a real “ find Vince, complements the rest of the bike perfectly...

More by luck than good management, Mike! I've got numerous carbon bits and bobs fitted from at least four different manufacturers and the weave is virtually identical in all of them. Which is lucky.

Darren69

08-05-2022, 07:20 PM

+1 for Carbonvani stuff

Leamreject

09-05-2022, 05:57 AM

Looks superb, mine had one fitted from new in 2012 and other than yours now I’ve not seen any others.

Luddite

09-05-2022, 11:55 AM

Looks superb, mine had one fitted from new in 2012 and other than yours now I’ve not seen any others.

Bearing in mind the eye watering cost when new :eek:, I'm surprised that there are any out there at all!

Luddite

09-05-2022, 12:05 PM

+1 for Carbonvani stuff

This is the first piece from Carbonvani that I've seen up close, Darren, and I'm definitely impressed.

I think what sets them apart from all the other carbon suppliers is the fact that they are the only one I'm aware of that offers their parts painted. I remember when I was talking to Image Design Custom about painting my carbon mudguard, they said that it was quite time-consuming to get a good paint finish on carbon as many of the parts brought in to them for painting had to be rubbed down and relacquered as the original clear coat often contained pin holes and other imperfections.

Darren69

09-05-2022, 03:04 PM

This is the first piece from Carbonvani that I've seen up close, Darren, and I'm definitely impressed.

I think what sets them apart from all the other carbon suppliers is the fact that they are the only one I'm aware of that offers their parts painted. I remember when I was talking to Image Design Custom about painting my carbon mudguard, they said that it was quite time-consuming to get a good paint finish on carbon as many of the parts brought in to them for painting had to be rubbed down and relacquered as the original clear coat often contained pin holes and other imperfections.

AFAIK he makes a lot of the stuff to order so it can take a little longer to arrive.

crawsue

09-05-2022, 03:51 PM

It looks the “dawg’s danglies “ Vince.....

Albie

09-05-2022, 04:11 PM

Back in 2010

I was going to paint them over in part, but now I've seen them on I may not as the decals were obviously an extra as they are laquered over.
I just think I need some blacked or titanium screws as the stainless domed look a bit bright.

Very happy with the result and a relatively cheap way to go dark. Yes really !! Paint is dear.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1953.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1948.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1945.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1949.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1954.jpg

Luddite

09-05-2022, 04:21 PM

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1953.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1948.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1945.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1949.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l209/albies4/Monster%201100S/DSCF1954.jpg

That looked fantastic, Albie - very 'stealth'!

Luddite

09-05-2022, 04:22 PM

It looks the “dawg’s danglies “ Vince.....

Thanks, C. Have you tried out your new suspension yet? I've been waiting for the thread...

Albie

09-05-2022, 06:37 PM

That looked fantastic, Albie - very 'stealth'!

I'm cured now of carbonitus.

Luddite

09-05-2022, 06:58 PM

I'm cured now of carbonitus.

You must share the secret, Albie. Do you need two vaccinations or three??

Albie

09-05-2022, 07:09 PM

You must share the secret, Albie. Do you need two vaccinations or three??

Just bought a scrambler instead lol. It has lots of aluminium parts instead. Mind you could try counselling.

Luddite

09-05-2022, 08:44 PM

Just bought a scrambler instead lol. It has lots of aluminium parts instead. Mind you could try counselling.

:chuckle:

.

Luddite

19-05-2023, 08:37 PM

Well, it's been over a year but, yes, the Evo is still going strong! I thought it was about time that I treated it to some more goodies and a new chain was on the shopping list. Now, a new chain means new sprockets and that throws up the question of gearing.

From earlier posts, you may remember that I did what many other Evo owners have done in an effort to improve low speed running, I lowered the gearing.

I went down the cheap and cheerful route by just fitting a 14 tooth front sprocket - quick, easy and no need to fit a longer chain.

However, I had said that, when the time came to replace the chain, I would go back to the standard front sprocket (15t) and fit a larger 42 tooth rear (standard is 39t). This requires a longer chain at 106 links, rather than the standard 104, but this set up should, in theory, give both chain and sprockets an easier time. So that's what I did.

But why fit a boring standard style sprocket when there are natty CNC quick change versions on offer?

I've swapped the gold DID chain for a neat black and silver one and chosen an AEM Factory sprocket kit, which allows you to change the rear sprocket independently of the carrier. Saves about a kilo of weight too. The sprocket is hard anodised aluminium. I'd have preferred steel but we'll see how it wears...

No real problems in fitting; the gearbox sprocket at 186Nm whizzed straight off with my cordless impact wrench but the larger rear sprocket nut at a lower 156Nm wouldn't budge and needed a three foot long breaker bar before it would move :nash:

I'm pleased with the look but, as I haven't ridden it yet, can't comment on any change in the riding experience.

https://i.postimg.cc/XqmqvXqD/IMG-20230519-192809-7.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7J1wsHgg)

There have been some arguments that the smaller 14t front sprocket brings the chain too close to the swinging arm and can wear it away. However, I checked the plastic protector at the gearbox end and, although there is evidence of some rubbing, it is quite minor considering the smaller sprocket has been on there for over 10,000 miles. So, if you're currently running a 14t sprocket, I don't think you've got anything to worry about.

https://i.postimg.cc/hG1X0SZf/IMG-20230519-183343-4.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nsMVFtJJ)

crawsue

20-05-2023, 01:22 PM

Did someone mention Dawg’s Danglies ? Looks like your aversion treatment is wearing off Vince…..:spin:

bigredduke

20-05-2023, 09:26 PM

That looks very classy indeed Vince. I like the black chain especially!

stopintime

20-05-2023, 09:52 PM

Cool look !

The chain looks tight.... or is it just an optical illusion? How much slack do you use?

Luddite

21-05-2023, 12:03 AM

Did someone mention Dawg’s Danglies ? Looks like your aversion treatment is wearing off Vince…..:spin:

I know, Crawford - and there may be more... :rolleyes:

That looks very classy indeed Vince. I like the black chain especially!

Yes, I think gold is sooo last year, dahling!

Cool look !

The chain looks tight.... or is it just an optical illusion? How much slack do you use? It must be an optical illusion as it's actually too loose at the moment since I haven't yet tensioned it.

Mr Gazza

21-05-2023, 07:46 AM

I'm glad you're happy with your hipster black, but I'll stick with Silver for my sprokit and Gold for my chain. As you know I already have Gold nuts.
I'm happy being un-hip, I take the windswept and interesting route.. :chuckle:

Last time I bought a Renthal rear they were bronzy by defualt so I sprayed it Silver. Never had a problem with ally rear sprokits, but I did destroy a set at the last weekender. Several hundred sodden wet miles through mud, grit and sheep dip saw to that.

I'm running Ognibene now, which are steel and have hard rubber cushions for the chain which is supposed to make it quieter? Not sure about that, but 5000 miles down the line they still seem good apart from the tsunami of thick black chain grease hanging from the front sprocket cover. I could be accused of over doing the lube after the Yorkshire/Cumbria episode, but I do ride it through the winter.

Dukedesmo

21-05-2023, 08:45 AM

I have a Renthal Alloy sprocket on the rear of my 916 and it lasts really well.

Yet when I tried the same on the Monster, it munched it up in a couple of thousand miles. The same with tyres; I fitted the same type of sports tyre to the Monster and within 1,000 miles it was done, through to the cords in the middle yet, on the 916 it'll go 3,000 miles.

Not quite sure why the difference as the 916 has 30hp more and is heavier yet it consumes less consumables?

Can only put it down to power delivery, with the Monster making it's power lower down the range and being more 'agricultural', maybe that's why the Monster's gearbox broke despite having less miles on it than the 916? (they use the same gearbox).

Currently running a 'Supersprox' hybrid rear sprocket on it - this is an alloy center/carrier with a steel tooth ring so is lighter than an all steel yet steel where it counts and it's holding up well.

stopintime

21-05-2023, 10:07 AM

It must be an optical illusion as it's actually too loose at the moment since I haven't yet tensioned it.

How much slack do you use?

walkingpictures

21-05-2023, 10:26 AM

That's a lovely looking set up Vince,I like the black chain,can't remember ever seeing one like that!!

Kimbo

Luddite

21-05-2023, 10:55 AM

Thanks for sharing your experiences with aluminium sprockets, Mr G and DD, I'll be keeping a close eye on it! I think I read that Rental sprockets fit the AEM carrier but, of course, they're still aluminium. JT sprockets look the same design and they're steel so I might try one when it's time to change (can always send it back if ordered online).

https://i.postimg.cc/65HYftsM/s-l400.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Luddite

21-05-2023, 10:58 AM

How much slack do you use?

I'll run the stock slack, maybe slightly less to take into account the larger sprocket. I may disconnect the shock and move the swingarm through its travel to see what the best clearance is.

https://i.postimg.cc/G2WkZkRg/wp-ss-20190413-0001-2.png (https://postimages.org/)

Luddite

21-05-2023, 11:00 AM

That's a lovely looking set up Vince,I like the black chain,can't remember ever seeing one like that!!

Kimbo

I think it's a relatively new design, Kimbo, which means that in a couple of years it'll probably look very old-fashioned!

stopintime

21-05-2023, 01:30 PM

I've seen several 696-1100 bikes with the "normal" +/- 30mm. The construction (with the engine mounted higher in the frame) confuse even workshops.

The relatively large slack with a 'dancing/jumping' chain is why the chain 'bites' a little on the front of the swingarm protection plastic shoe. It's not the sprocket size. My 14t S2R shows no wear after 230.000km.

You can move the swingarm through it's travel by the use of a ratchet strap if you want to avoid removing the shock. More people should find 'ground zero' using that method. When I tighten the strap to the point where front sprocket-swingarm axle-wheel axle are alligned (and the chain tightest) I set the chain at ~10mm there. When I remove the strap I can read "my" correct slack. On my bike it's ~38 instead of stock ~32 due to my custom suspension and geometry.

Luddite

21-05-2023, 04:01 PM

The chain is now securely rivetted, (I'd forgotten what a faff that is :grump:), next job is cam belts.

In the meantime...

https://i.postimg.cc/gkkqtQmr/IMG-20230521-164242-0.jpg (https://postimg.cc/JtvkGTyW)

I'm not usually one for red anodised bits but I had enough Carbon Racing loyalty points from my sprocket purchase to get this for nothing*. I think it's quite subtle and goes well with the pinstriping.

Nice to have the torque setting on there now my memory is failing! :scratch:

https://i.postimg.cc/T1Tq6Hb7/IMG-20230521-164329-0.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2bXBdG2h)

And another 1 gram saved too! :rolleyes:

*I say "for nothing" but you'll note that the new wheel nut is bi-hex so I did have to buy a 12 point socket to suit. :hissy:

PS yes I know the security clip is missing - the wheel's coming off again for a new tyre.

bigredduke

22-05-2023, 10:30 AM

Luddite

22-05-2023, 02:22 PM

Bi-hex? Does that mean it turns both ways?:D

:chuckle:

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utopia

22-05-2023, 02:25 PM

Bi-hex? Does that mean it turns both ways?:D

Six of one and half a dozen of the other ?
:running:

crawsue

22-05-2023, 07:12 PM

Is there no end to this expense…? I heard of a guy who would only buy red bikes…..his missus didn’t have clue that he had changed bikes…..all she knew was “ he’s got a red one “…..!

Luddite

22-05-2023, 10:26 PM

Is there no end to this expense…? I heard of a guy who would only buy red bikes…..his missus didn’t have clue that he had changed bikes…..all she knew was “ he’s got a red one “…..!

Now that's crafty! :thumbsup:

Luddite

22-05-2023, 10:29 PM

The next bit of TLC for the Evo is a fresh set of cambelts courtesy of that nice Stu at Exact UK www.exactuk.com

https://i.postimg.cc/C5s4MwPD/IMG-20230522-161436-8.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Fk1SDXQs)

I've set out a step-by-step guide here for anyone who also wants to change their Evo's belts.

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=598583

Luddite

22-05-2023, 10:41 PM

Oh, and the belt change was the perfect baptism for my new Machine Mart hydraulic bike lift.

https://i.postimg.cc/fWcCfvzL/IMG-20230522-190334-0.jpg (https://postimg.cc/z3fTJKRZ)

I've been promising myself one for years and what a treat - no more back ache or scrabbling around on the ground!

crawsue

23-05-2023, 01:16 PM

Excellent work Vince, indeed a very comprehensive guide…is it a “Sticky” ?

Luddite

31-05-2023, 11:01 AM

So I picked this up yesterday from those very nice Craig and Luke at Moto Rapido - a set of Rizoma MA006 bars.

https://i.postimg.cc/HkL928Th/IMG-20230530-162338-0.jpg (https://postimg.cc/YhJF29G6)

I'd been considering changing the bars ever since I fitted the individual risers back in 2018 so decided it was about time I did something about it. http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showpost.php?p=553432&postcount=76

Despite all the various aluminium bits and bobs I've fitted to the Evo, this is actually the first Rizoma item I've ever bought. I must say I'm very impressed with the quality with a nice, thick black anodised wrinkle finish, which matches well the rear subframe and lower yoke. I also like the black/silver combination of bars and risers that matches the Ducati Performance reservoir caps.

The Rizoma bars are pretty much the same width as standard and have a height of 30mm, which, as far as I can measure, is about the same as the OEM bars. The difference is that the Rizomas sweep back towards the rider a bit more than standard and aren't angled down like the originals.

https://i.postimg.cc/1Rc01rtd/Screenshot-20230531-025758-2.png (https://postimg.cc/BtbPxD25)

With my 7mm higher CNC Racing risers, the bars fit with no problems - cables and hoses are fine, (the left switchgear wiring is just long enough). I've had the front wheel off the ground and the brake hose has enough length to accommodate the suspension topping out.

I have had to sacrifice a tiny bit of steering lock as the slightly higher switchgear no longer sits within the air intake cutouts, but that's not a problem.

With the new bars, I've taken the opportunity to rotate both the switches and levers forward slightly so they suit my riding position better. (That also lost me a little steering lock thanks to the base of the switchgear being closer to the tank but it feels much better from the saddle.)

I haven't ridden it yet as I'm about to fit a new rear tyre but, what with that tyre, the new chain, sprockets and cush drives AND these bars, I'm really looking forward to the first test ride!

Here's the evolution of the Evo: top is standard; middle is CNC Racing risers with OEM bars and bottom is how it is now.

https://i.postimg.cc/zX7kKFYh/Picsart-23-05-31-10-48-34-436.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7fC7y76P)

RichardDDuke

31-05-2023, 11:33 AM

Anybody found any aftermarket bars that have the correct holes pre-drilled for switch gear to locate into ?
If so, please advise....
TIA

Luddite

31-05-2023, 12:58 PM

Anybody found any aftermarket bars that have the correct holes pre-drilled for switch gear to locate into ?
If so, please advise....
TIA

I don't think you're going to find any pre-drilled bars, Richard. All these aftermarket bars, be they from Rizoma, LSL, CNC Racing etc., they're all universal fit designed for any number of makes and models. You'd probably be hard-pushed to find two bikes with the same arrangement and position of holes so the manufacturers have to leave it to the buyer to locate everything in the correct place.

It's not a difficult task - if you wrap masking tape around the pin area then colour over the end of the switchgear pin with a marker pen, when you press the switchgear halves together on the bar, you'll be left with a location mark on the tape.

The bars are aluminium so are not difficult to drill, just proceed slowly, start with a pilot hole then go up in a couple of steps to the correct size, (on the Evo, 5.5mm for switches and 4.5mm for the throttle).

A bonus to drilling your own holes is that you can position things exactly as you want, not as the manufacturer dictates. On the Rizomas, you can see graduation lines so you can rotate the bars forward or back. A hole position that worked on -3 probably wouldn't be comfortable on +3.

If you don't want to drill, consider removing the pins and using self-adhesive mounting tape to secure things. Plenty of people on here have used that method with no problems.

RichardDDuke

31-05-2023, 04:22 PM

Luddite,
Thanks for the reply. I've never been great at getting holes in exactly the right place ... hence the amount of spare aluminium bracketry in my garage.
I'll give your method a go, and given the amount of detail given even I should stand a decent chance of getting it right first time.
Thanks again.

crawsue

31-05-2023, 07:16 PM

When I swapped the 696 for my Evo I much preferred the shape and feel of the 696 bars….slightly narrower, certainly, but somehow just felt “right”.
Enjoy your 1st proving ride Vince.:mand:

crawsue

31-05-2023, 07:19 PM

stopintime

31-05-2023, 10:00 PM

https://www.desmoworld.com/en/desmoworld-blacktools-handlebar-drilling-template-22mm-4430?number=BT.LBS.22-X

Luddite

31-05-2023, 11:18 PM

I'll give your method a go, and given the amount of detail given even I should stand a decent chance of getting it right first time.
Thanks again.

The old maxim of "measure twice, cut (or drill!) once", is appropriate here. Just ensure that you try the bars at different positions to find the one you like best before you start marking out your drilling points. Use a centre punch to stop the pilot drill wandering and you'll be fine. The bar walls are quite thick, (about 4mm), so don't be surprised if it takes longer than you anticipated to make your holes.

Also, I'd recommend wrapping the whole bar in masking tape to protect the anodising while you're positioning and drilling.

Luddite

31-05-2023, 11:20 PM

Hoping to update my avatar picture next week when we “redo” the Stelvio enroute for Mugello….although it looks like we’re trading Costa Glasvegas full on summer sun for very mixed looking weather in Italy:confused:

Have a great time, C, and I hope you'll be posting up an album of your holiday snaps when you return. :cool:

crawsue

01-06-2023, 11:48 AM

I’ll WhatsApp them…..:chuckle::chuckle:

Luddite

01-06-2023, 04:38 PM

I'll give your method a go, and given the amount of detail given even I should stand a decent chance of getting it right first time.
Thanks again.

A quick PS - if you're fitting higher risers and/or bars, do make sure you top out the forks with levers and switches fitted to ensure you won't be pulling on the brake hoses when the suspension is fully extended

Luddite

01-06-2023, 04:51 PM

Thought I'd celebrate the Evo's 12th birthday by having an oil analysis done.

https://i.postimg.cc/W11FjfTz/IMG-20230522-193328-4.jpg (https://postimg.cc/YhTqzR4B)

More details here: http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=60406

By the way, the NHS sent me a bowel cancer testing kit on the same day - best not to get the two samples mixed up :eek:

Luddite

12-06-2023, 03:35 PM

I'll run the stock slack, maybe slightly less to take into account the larger sprocket. I may disconnect the shock and move the swingarm through its travel to see what the best clearance is.

https://i.postimg.cc/G2WkZkRg/wp-ss-20190413-0001-2.png (https://postimages.org/)

Here's a useful video that Brad the Bike Boy released today explaining chain tension. I did exactly the same exercise as he shows, except I used a piece of string to line everything up instead of a fancy laser! (Ignore the step ladder!)

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https://i.postimg.cc/DyXdtVWd/IMG-20230525-170442-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/ZCJddMxC)