MOTO GP 2017 predictions?

[bigredduke]

How about a little competition? Predict the 1,2,3 Moto GP finishing positions for 2017?
There may be a small prize for the winner. In the event of a tie, the earlier post wins.

On the basis of absolutely no knowledge or skill on my part:

1. Marquez
2. Vinales
3. Lorenzo

[Taff666]

1. Marquez
2. Rossi
3. Vinales

[MarkF]

I would like to follow it but I am buggered if I am paying anymore out for watching TV :(

[SteveG]

Gonna stick my neck out...and go for the long shot.
It's now or never for Rossi 10th world title... and Jorge on a Duke has to be feisty...
So..
1: Rossi
2: Lorenzo
3: Marquez

[bigredduke]

I would like to follow it but I am buggered if I am paying anymore out for watching TV :(

Highlights are on ITV4 the following Monday evening. The commentators are a pair of tosspots but at least you get to see most of the race.

[Dirty]

1 Vinales
2 Marquez
3 Rossi

Not my opinion, just going for a random entry :)

[MarkF]

I guess, but nothing like watching it live, I am a saddo and watch the F1 live too, maybe next year I will go to as many BSB races as I can.

[Dirty]

Interesting. I'm a much bigger F1 fan than MGP but I refuse to give any money to Murdoch so stay with the BBC. I also prefer their coverage, mate gave me free Sky password but I never use it.

[Kato]

1- Anybody but Tossi
2- Anybody but Tossi
3- Anybody but Tossi

A better prediction might be how long before the wall goes up and the dummy is spat because Maverick is the better Yamaha rider, 3 day test starts on monday 30th so i guess we'll get an idea by the end of wed's

[Ursa]

1. Iannone
2. Nope
3. Can't think of anyone else

:mand:

[jerry]

someone who is not Italian or Spanish

[Kato]

A tall order Jerry when you consider the make up of the series is

Spain = 10 riders
Italy = 4
Brit = 4
Fra = 2
Cze = 1
Aus = 1
Ger = 1

[Moco1961]

Not a great gambler but here goes,
1. Rossi
2. Lorenzo
3. Marquez

Would love to see Lorenzo do it but first season is a big ask.....

[Dirty]

A better prediction might be how long before the wall goes up and the dummy is spat because Maverick is the better Yamaha rider, 3 day test starts on monday 30th so i guess we'll get an idea by the end of wed's

Yeah but who's gonna pay for it?

[pegboy]

One in Rossi get you 10th and say bye bye is style

[Kato]

Ha ha ha.....
After day one of th MotoGP test top of the time sheet is......Casey Stoner

1 1/2 hours left but no more riding today as its raining hard

POS # RIDER NAME
1................C. STONER
2................A. DOVIZIOSO
3................M. VIÑALES
4................A. BAUTISTA
5................A. IANNONE
6................C. CRUTCHLOW
7................J. FOLGER
8................V. ROSSI
9................M. MARQUEZ
10..............H. BARBERA
11..............D. PETRUCCI
12..............S. REDDING
13..............D. PEDROSA
14..............J. ZARCO
15..............A. ESPARGARO
16..............P. ESPARGARO
17..............J. LORENZO
18..............L. BAZ
19..............T. TSUDA
20..............A. RINS
21..............K. ABRAHAM

[Rascall]

Championship prediction

1. Vinhales
2. Marquez
3. Lorenzo

Although I would love to see Iannone in the top three I dont think he has the consistency,

Prediction 2 - Rossi to announce retirement at end of season

Russell

[Kato]

Prediction 2 - Rossi to announce retirement at end of season

Russell

Prediction 3 - Will blame said retirement on everybody else not letting him win:flag:

[Uncle Bob]

1 - Marquez
2 - Rossi
3 - Vinales

The heart wants Rossi to take it, but I think it's going to be very tough this year.

[SteveG]

Ha ha ha.....
After day one of th MotoGP test top of the time sheet is......Casey Stoner

1 1/2 hours left but no more riding today as its raining hard

POS # RIDER NAME
1................C. STONER
2................A. DOVIZIOSO
3................M. VIÑALES
4................A. BAUTISTA
5................A. IANNONE
6................C. CRUTCHLOW
7................J. FOLGER
8................V. ROSSI
9................M. MARQUEZ
10..............H. BARBERA
11..............D. PETRUCCI
12..............S. REDDING
13..............D. PEDROSA
14..............J. ZARCO
15..............A. ESPARGARO
16..............P. ESPARGARO
17..............J. LORENZO
18..............L. BAZ
19..............T. TSUDA
20..............A. RINS
21..............K. ABRAHAM

Sounds about as irrelevant a guide to a prediction of a 1/2/3 for this year championship as last years Philip Island Test results were..

2016 MotoGP Phillip Island Test Session 1 Results
1. Danilo Petrucci (Ducati) 1’31.764
2. Maverick Vinales (Suzuki) 1’32.483
3. Bradley Smith (Yamaha) 1’32.590
4. Scott Redding (Ducati) 1’32.864
5. Cal Crutchlow (Honda) 1’32.948
6. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) 1’33.088
7. Pol Espargaro (Yamaha) 1’33.126
8. Yonny Hernandez (Ducati) 1’33.841
9. Jack Miller (Honda) 1’33.992
10. Andrea Iannone (Ducati) 1’34.049
11. Tito Rabat (Honda) 1’35.273
12. Marc Marquez (Honda) 1’35.354
13. Aleix Espargaro (Suzuki) 1’35.584
14. Eugene Laverty (Ducati) 1’35.679
15. Takuya Tsuda (Suzuki) 1’36.166
16. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) 1’39.825
17. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) 1’40.138
18. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati)

[Rascall]

Prediction 3 - Will blame said retirement on everybody else not letting him win:flag:

:chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:

[Uncle Bob]

Anybody with eyes could see the reality of what happened to Rossi at the end of the 2015 season. Basically there were people (certain Spanish ones!) who didn't want him to win. It was all a bit unnecessary really.

[Kato]

Anybody with eyes could see the reality of what happened to Rossi at the end of the 2015 season. Basically there were people (certain Spanish ones!) who didn't want him to win. It was all a bit unnecessary really.

Hmm let me think about that statement.............WRONG

The miserable clown faced :cens: realised his bullying mind games were not working threw his toys and spat his dummy then in a vain attempt to play hard done by tried to blame Jorge & Marc, got well and truly found out and then bitched about being rightfully punished, what a :cens::cens::cens::cens:

[Dirty]

G.O.A.T.

Nuff said :)

[Kato]

G.O.A.T.

Nuff said :)

:chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:

[Uncle Bob]

Hmm let me think about that statement.............WRONG

The miserable clown faced :cens: realised his bullying mind games were not working threw his toys and spat his dummy then in a vain attempt to play hard done by tried to blame Jorge & Marc, got well and truly found out and then bitched about being rightfully punished, what a :cens::cens::cens::cens:

:chuckle: And neither Lorenzo or Marquez play mind games? Rrrrrright...... :eyepopping:

Everyone in the sport acknowledges what happened, but unfortunately some people are so blinded by all their Rossi hate that they can't see what's going on right in front of their eyes.

Rossi is no saint, never has been, but Marquez' behaviour on track was blatant cheating. Oddly though, **** never sticks to Marquez for some reason? Could it be that he's Spanish perhaps (and so is Dorna, so is Carmelo Ezpeleta...)?

Rossi is constantly reminded of his dubious moments, and look at the likes of Ianone, and Simoncelli even, both practically ostracized because of their riding styles, yet Saint Marc can seemingly do whatever the fook he wants with no comeback or accountability? How does that work?

Still, all that apart, MotoGP is in pretty good shape after last year, where the racing did the talking, mostly.

[bigredduke]

G.O.A.T.

Nuff said :)

'Greatest of all time' or Gimp on a two-wheeler'?

Surely Ago for the first, not sure about the second.

[Kato]

Non Capra Più cane sporca

[Kato]

WOW Season not even started yet and already the banter starts......


Gastly Overrated Average Twat

Haven't always felt that way, but ever since catalunya 2006 when he punched Max in the eye on the way to the podium, his talent, yes he has some is not bigger than the sport

[Uncle Bob]

'Greatest of all time' or Gimp on a two-wheeler'?

Surely Ago for the first, not sure about the second.

Erm... Hailwood? Just saying...

No doubt Ago should be up there though, of course. For me though (and for many), given all his achievements, and the fact he's still winning races, Rossi is the current GOAT. It'll take one hell of a career to surpass his now.

[Uncle Bob]

Kato - I'm not going to argue with you about not liking Rossi, that's your perogative, however 'overrated' and 'average'? Behave.

In some ways though, rightly or wrongly, Rossi IS bigger than the sport. Name one other rider in the paddock who would have fans, or who would be known for anything at all outside of MotoGP... He's a worldwide superstar, and that's why they say every race is a home race for Rossi and they don't say it about anyone else.

When he does eventually retire, MotoGP will be a little bit less interesting on track and off it, that's for sure.

[Dirty]

G.O.A.T no doubt, his skill and record shows that.

Punching people? The G.O.A.T also has character :)

[Dookbob]

Erm... Hailwood? Just saying...

No doubt Ago should be up there though, of course. For me though (and for many), given all his achievements, and the fact he's still winning races, Rossi is the current GOAT. It'll take one hell of a career to surpass his now.

take a glance at my avatar to see who I rate as G.O.A.T

[Kato]

As far as I know there are only two riders with nine world titles, usually when a there is a tie the winner would be whoever achieved the wins in the fastest time, so by that logic Mike Hailwood wins
MH 9 titles in 76 wins
VR 9 titles in 112
But that does not take Ago into account 15 titles in 122 wins so surely he is N01 ??

I would add Jarno Saarinen, and King Kenny to the list and put them both above rossi, only my opinion

Who was the most talented? Impossible to know because they rode in different eras on different bikes, with different rivals and when different talents mattered, so we need to look much deeper to understand the achievements of the greats, their performances according to the motorcycles they had beneath them and the rivals they had beside them, because merely counting race wins and world championships is never enough.

One IMO legend whos name I won't even mention, over one weekend raced in 5 different categories in all 7 rounds of each capacity; a weekend consisting of 35 races. Not only did he compete in all these categories at different engine capacities, won 32 out of the 35 races. There were five National titles to be won that weekend, He won all five, greatness indeed.

So I think calling Rossi the greatest just because he is currently the media favourite is a little short sighted.

[SteveG]

Yawn. .... Bored now. How about this gets back to a predictions 2017 thread as per bigredduke original post and the K.A.R.H (Kato Anti-Rossi Hijack) and / or G.O.A.T (s) discussion.. the latter which admittedly is quite interesting in it's own right - gets moved to thread all of its own?....just a friendly thought...

[Dirty]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

G.O.A.T. We all know who that means :)

[Ursa]

Yawn. .... Bored now. How about this gets back to a predictions 2017 thread as per bigredduke original post and the K.A.R.H (Kato Anti-Rossi Hijack) and / or G.O.A.T (s) discussion.. the latter which admittedly is quite interesting in it's own right - gets moved to thread all of its own?....just a friendly thought...

Yes! Kato's obsession with hating Rossi is dull at it's best...

How interesting was it that lovely Iannone got the second highest times in the aggregated laps?? I think it's looking more like Maverick/Iannone for top spot going forward.

And in the celebrity stakes lovely Iannone seems to be taking up many column inches in the Italian press with his relationship with the slightly unfortunately named Belen Rodriquez (which Iannone cannot pronounce with his speech impediment) a TV and modelling personality, in the realms of the Abbie Clancy type. Something Rossi has never really been afflicted with...

So I revise my 1 2 3

1. Lovely Iannone
2. Vinales
3. Marquez

[Dirty]

Rossi has never had a speech impediment or Rossi has never had a hot girlfriend?

[Kato]

Rossi has never had a speech impediment or Rossi has never had a hot girlfriend?

His speech was fairly impeded the day that Casey pointed out to him that
his ambition clearly outweighed his talent

Definitely not hot, but his girlfriend is called Uccio

[Ursa]

Rossi turned up with a girlfriend for about a year, but it wasn't the type of tabloid/gossip rag/Hello/OK fodder that Iannone's current relationship is.

[Uncle Bob]

My final comment on the GOAT\Rossi thing... Read Mat Oxley in the March issue of Bike, where he talks about the future of MotoGP without Rossi. It's interesting stuff.

There are suggestions that the following of MotoGP will fall by 20 - 30% after he retires, such is his popularity, and that's a bad deal for sponsors etc. which potentially could mean less money for the sport. It's all speculation of course, but I'm not really in a position to dispute what Oxley is saying or where he gets his information from.

It takes more than wins to make somebody 'great'. And like it or not, nobody else's participation has ever had such a global imact on this sport, whether it's the number of titles, number of fans, popularity, economics, whatever. Can that be sensibly disputed?

[Darkness]

Yawn. .... Bored now. How about this gets back to a predictions 2017 thread as per bigredduke original post and the K.A.R.H (Kato Anti-Rossi Hijack) and / or G.O.A.T (s) discussion.. the latter which admittedly is quite interesting in it's own right - gets moved to thread all of its own?....just a friendly thought...

Me too Steve, but seemingly not yet........:rolleyes:

[Dirty]

Rossi turned up with a girlfriend for about a year, but it wasn't the type of tabloid/gossip rag/Hello/OK fodder that Iannone's current relationship is.

Oh yeah, rough as ####!

http://fabwags.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Linda-Morselli-Valentino-Rossi-girlfriend-pics1.jpg

[Ursa]

That picture link is broken, I'm guessing it's Rossi's ex? Point is Belen is very famous in her own right in Italy, is a big TV star and model, so is part of a power couple hence the press insanity. Linda not so much.

[Ursa]

Correction, link not broken, still my point stands.

[Dirty]

Correction, link not broken, still my point stands.

I'm still not sure what it was?

[Ursa]

The point was that Iannone and his girlfriend are subject to a hell of a lot more hysterical tabloid coverage due to her celebrity than Rossi and Linda were.

[Dirty]

Ah ok. Not really comparable to the G.O.A.T.s fame though, I can't see ianone counting his t shirt income in terms of £millions because of who he,s shagging :)

[slob]

Me too Steve, but seemingly not yet........:rolleyes:

since the hijack continues despite your reasonable comment

1. Vinales
2. Marquez
3. Lorenzo

* (wildcard) Rossi in any of the above three slots

I'm just looking forward to another season of (hopefully close) racing, with a special interest in seeing Aprilia and KTM giving a good showing.

[Darkness]

I'll go for:
1. Lorenzo
2. Crutchlow
3. Lowes

[Kato]

1. Marquez
2. Vinales
3. Dovi

[yusaf1]

1. Pedrosa.....
2. Marquez
3. Vinales

[Dirty]

Ahhhh, nothing like a good hijack but fair point, I'll help it back on track by reposting mine :D

1 Vinales
2 Marquez
3 Rossi G.O.A.T.

[slob]

I'd love to see Dani win a championship

[Kato]

I'd love to see Dani win a championship

Minogue? .............

[Dirty]

I'd love to see Dani win a championship

Probably the most deserving non champ on the grid. Last couple of years he has been a shadow of his former self. I'd be happy to just see him win a few races and get more regular podiums.

9 winners last year. Do we think it will settle down this year or are we in for a similar number of shock wins?

[slob]

Minogue? .............
different spelling

Probably the most deserving non champ on the grid.
Agreed


9 winners last year. Do we think it will settle down this year or are we in for a similar number of shock wins?
I really hope so!!

[Uncle Bob]

Probably the most deserving non champ on the grid

Hmmm... Not sure I agree with that sentiment. I like Dani a lot, but it's like when you hear about all the kids at the school sports day getting prizes, when the reality is that some kids just aren't quite good enough to win (or there are others who are better, whichever way you look at it), or are maybe they're just a bit too fragile!

I mean, races, absolutely all day long, but if he had what it takes to win a championship he would have done it already.

[Kato]

Fantasy League 2017 starts Feb 8th

http://fantasyrace.motorcyclenews.com/

[Dirty]

Fantasy League 2017 starts Feb 8th

http://fantasyrace.motorcyclenews.com/

http://fantasyrace.motorcyclenews.com/splash.png

[Kato]

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[gary tompkins]

How about predicting the top crasher in each class for 2017?

[bigredduke]

Bigredduke
1. Marquez
2. Vinales
3. Lorenzo
Taff666
1. Marquez
2. Rossi
3. Vinales
SteveG
1: Rossi
2: Lorenzo
3: Marquez
Dirty
1 Vinales
2 Marquez
3 Rossi
Ursa
1. Lovely Iannone
2. Vinales
3. Marquez
Moco1961
1. Rossi
2. Lorenzo
3. Marquez
Rascall
1. Vinhales
2. Marquez
3. Lorenzo
Uncle Bob
1 - Marquez
2 - Rossi
3 – Vinales
Slob (same prediction as Rascall)
1. Vinales
2. Marquez
3. Lorenzo

* (wildcard) Rossi in any of the above three slots

Darkness
1. Lorenzo
2. Crutchlow
3. Lowes

Kato
1. Marquez
2. Vinales
3. Dovi

Yusaf1
1. Pedrosa.....
2. Marquez
3. Vinales

Any more? - just copy & paste & add your entry

[Jez900ie]

Another view/ vote

http://www.crash.net/motogp/poll_results/482/who-will-win-the-2017-motogp-world-championship.html

[Dirty]

Another view/ vote

http://www.crash.net/motogp/poll_results/482/who-will-win-the-2017-motogp-world-championship.html

3 of us picked those 3 but none in that order. Roll on the weekend. :woot:

[Jez900ie]

Bigredduke
1. Marquez
2. Vinales
3. Lorenzo
Taff666
1. Marquez
2. Rossi
3. Vinales
SteveG
1: Rossi
2: Lorenzo
3: Marquez
Dirty
1 Vinales
2 Marquez
3 Rossi
Ursa
1. Lovely Iannone
2. Vinales
3. Marquez
Moco1961
1. Rossi
2. Lorenzo
3. Marquez
Rascall
1. Vinhales
2. Marquez
3. Lorenzo
Uncle Bob
1 - Marquez
2 - Rossi
3 – Vinales
Slob (same prediction as Rascall)
1. Vinales
2. Marquez
3. Lorenzo

* (wildcard) Rossi in any of the above three slots

Darkness
1. Lorenzo
2. Crutchlow
3. Lowes

Kato
1. Marquez
2. Vinales
3. Dovi

Yusaf1
1. Pedrosa.....
2. Marquez
3. Vinales

Any more? - just copy & paste & add your entry

Jez900ie
1.Vinales
2.Rossi
3Marquez

[Ady]

ADY

1. Marquez
2. Vinales
3. Rossi

[bigredduke]

Looking like Kato has got the right top 3, just not in the correct order. We await Valencia with interest.

To win the championship, Dovi has to win & Marques has to come below 11th I think.
Maths never was my strong point :scratch:

[SteveG]

Looking like Kato has got the right top 3, just not in the correct order. We await Valencia with interest.

To win the championship, Dovi has to win & Marques has to come below 11th I think.
Maths never was my strong point :scratch:

Or.... that’ll be Rossi sticking Marquez into the gravel trap then so Dovi takes the win... He wouldn’t would he?

[jonzi]

I think if Dovi wins and MM comes 11th, then MM wins by 1 point.

If MM comes 12th, then tied, not sure how they work it out after that.

13th, Dovi would win by a point.

Maybe Rossi and Lorenzo will provide a rolling road block for Dovi?

[Dirty]

Or.... that’ll be Rossi sticking Marquez into the gravel trap then so Dovi takes the win... He wouldn’t would he?

Oh I so hope he does :)

[Taff666]

Monsieur Zarco is riding like a loose cannon at the moment..................

[Taff666]

If MM comes 12th, then tied, not sure how they work it out after that.

13th, Dovi would win by a point.


I can't think of 12 riders on this grid who can finish ahead of Marquez - if Dovi wins the championship, Marquez has fallen off.

[Taff666]

Or.... that’ll be Rossi sticking Marquez into the gravel trap then so Dovi takes the win... He wouldn’t would he?

There would be a kind of rough justice there, can't imagine The Doctor holding a grudge this long though.....(tee hee!)

It would make a change from Marquez trying to T bone people off the track at the last corner (Rossi in Assen, Dovi twice this year) in his usual win at all costs, if I can't win I'm not going to let you win, do or die last corner manoeuvre.

I'm expecting (hoping) Dovi to win it, followed by Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Vinales, Rossi (having put 93 in the gravel in a "racing incident") - that's how it finished in my Monday night dream anyway (following large amounts of Stella Artois)

However it goes, it's been one of the best seasons racing I've seen for a while, and it's brewing up to a fine ending next Sunday in Valencia - let's just hope for a classic race - enjoy

[Dirty]

Monsieur Zarco is riding like a loose cannon at the moment..................

They all are. The style of MGP has changed in the last few years. Rossi said something like 'you have to ride like an idiot' after the last race.

Great spectacle and entertainment for us, until someone gets hurt!