Front Axle Nut Torque M1100

[TonyG]

Hi,

Can anyone confirm the torque setting for the front axle nut on a 2009 M1100s? I think it is 63nm?

Thanks

[Ron1000]

Yep I've got it as 63nm as well. Mind suitable molybdenum grease too

[TonyG]

Thanks,

The workshop mentions a special part for seating the axle itself, do you know if it is realy needed?. I haven't removed the axle, but on inspection found the nut was literally just nipped up and nowhere near tight enough.

[Ron1000]

No idea about spindle removal / refitting. My evo has one or two holes in it, looks to me that some sort of tool is required for this but I've never actually took it out or anything.

I'm sure one of the super friendly chaps on here will come along to enlighten us.

[Luddite]

Hi Tony

I think the tool you're talking about is this:

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/vincebessant/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20160829_11_20_24_Pro_zpsfbv2ak00.jpg (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/vincebessant/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20160829_11_20_24_Pro_zpsfbv2ak00.jpg.html)

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/vincebessant/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20160829_11_21_14_Pro_zpsn4kfgucr.jpg (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/vincebessant/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20160829_11_21_14_Pro_zpsn4kfgucr.jpg.html)

it's needed to lock the axle while you tighten the nut (if it wasn't used the last time, that might explain why the nut wasn't fully tightened).

They're pretty cheap I think, about £5, and the Ducati part no. is 8000.70139. Or, if you want to be flash, Machine Mart stock the Laser version for £11... https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/laser-5338-ducati-front-axle-alignment-tool/

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/vincebessant/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images_5338_zpsw9xegwkf.jpg (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/vincebessant/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images_5338_zpsw9xegwkf.jpg.html)

If you're stuck, you can always use an Allen key to lock the axle like this:

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/vincebessant/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20160829_11_23_06_Pro_zpslnutkvas.jpg (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/vincebessant/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20160829_11_23_06_Pro_zpslnutkvas.jpg.html)

Hope that helps!

[TonyG]

Yes thanks, that's the tool. I've got Ohlins forks though and there is no notch to locate the tool. I've been told I can just nip up the axle clamps on that side to hold the axle while I torque the axle nut.

I have no idea if any sort of tool was used the last time as it wasn't done by me.

Cheers.

[Luddite]

This looks like the one for Öhlins forks:

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/vincebessant/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images_6351_zpsbupk7bqy.jpg (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/vincebessant/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images_6351_zpsbupk7bqy.jpg.html)

http://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/6351

Not stocked by Machine Mart but plenty on ebay/Amazon.

[TonyG]

Thanks again Luddite.

That would do it! However, haven't got time to wait for one off ebay so will just nip up the clamp bolts on that side for now. Will probably order one up for future use though.

[Joshua Brew]

Hi Tony,
could you possibly measure this tool so i could knock one up? i would need to know the the outside Ø of the tube, the length and diameter of the pin that runs through the tube and sits in the axle notches.
this would be great help
Thanks

[Luddite]

The tool for Tony's 1100S won't work on your Evo as the Öhlins forks on the S have different bottoms from the Evo's Marzocchis.

If you want to make up the Evo tool, it's made from a 40mm long piece of 2mm thick tubing Ø 24.8mm with a solid 6mm pin, 31mm long set 14.7mm from one end. The pin protrudes 3.6mm from one side and 2.6mm from the other.

https://i.postimg.cc/4NgXL4j0/WP-20160829-11-20-24-Pro-zpsfbv2ak00.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The holes in the opposite end are so you can insert a tommy bar/screwdriver for ease of removal.

[Dukedesmo]

Whilst the tool is useful to hold the axle, it's only necessary to align it if the fork adjusters are in the underside of the fork so that you need to pass through the axle with a screwdriver to adjust them?

916 Showa forks are this way for example but those forks pictured have the adjuster on the side.

[Joshua Brew]

Great thanks for the dimensions! just to clarify, the internal bore through the axle is 25mm? allowing the tool (24.8mm) to slide through

[Luddite]

Whilst the tool is useful to hold the axle, it's only necessary to align it if the fork adjusters are in the underside of the fork so that you need to pass through the axle with a screwdriver to adjust them?

916 Showa forks are this way for example but those forks pictured have the adjuster on the side.

On the Evo all the adjusters are external; the tool is needed to stop the axle turning when you tighten up the wheel nut (63Nm). The pinch bolts are tightened (18Nm) only after the axle has been torqued up.

[Luddite]

Great thanks for the dimensions! just to clarify, the internal bore through the axle is 25mm? allowing the tool (24.8mm) to slide through

Correct. The OD of the tool is marginally smaller than the ID of the axle allowing it to be inserted into the spindle.

[jerry]

you need to tighten on pinch bolt temporarily or the axle will spin as you tighten it

[Luddite]

you need to tighten on pinch bolt temporarily or the axle will spin as you tighten it

Not necessary with the Evo as that's the specific purpose of the tool; i.e. to lock the axle in place while you tighten the nut.