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Drumnagorrach
27-12-2015, 05:57 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111830152905?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Does anyone know a source of these ,from Within the E.U then bloody customs doesn't get it's nose in the trough. ?
I am also looking for a recommendation for a front fender extender ,again in carbon .

buzzbomb
27-12-2015, 06:11 PM
Try carbonworld.de or desmoworld.com, I'm certain you'll get fixed up.

As for a fender extender it's up to you to improvise ..:scratch:

Mr Gazza
27-12-2015, 06:33 PM
I tried a carbon fender extender on mine..It came from Spain..The only bloke who makes them...I think I am right in saying?

To be honest I didn't get on with it. I've taken it off now. I think the bike got more messy with it on, than off.
It clouted the rocker cover a couple of times too, and now it has a couple of little dents!!

You are welcome to try it if you wish...Just say.

Drumnagorrach
27-12-2015, 07:11 PM
Thanks for that Garry, I had been looking at the chap from Andalcias carbon bits ,won't bother now.I had one on the crashed m900 ,it came from pyramid plastics , it did the job but not great to look at .

Darren69
28-12-2015, 08:25 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rear-alteration-carbon-for-Ducati-Monster-/131638023752?hash=item1ea63cd648:g:m3UAAOSw9mFWLlj M

utopia
28-12-2015, 09:16 AM
I've had a carbon fender extender on my bike for a couple of years now and its been fine.
However, I did cut the mudguard down a little at both ends before I fitted it (which isn't as daft as it sounds).
Effectively the whole mudguard is rotated rearwards slightly, maybe 2 or 3 cm, and the rear is further extended but only by about half the amount that a normal extender would give.
It looked like this before I sprayed it satin black ....
Unfortunately I don't have a pic of it fitted on the bike.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u644/photopia132/P1020852_zps7cad41jj.jpg (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/photopia132/media/P1020852_zps7cad41jj.jpg.html)

I also fitted my short, Monza style bellypan so that it sits a little higher at the front than is normal.
The result is that there is sufficient overlap that the bellypan catches what the fender extender misses.
And also that, although it is extended, the front mudguard doesn't look too "touring".
I may yet trim a bit off the extender too, but left it full length at first to check how well it worked ... and it seems to work well.
I've had no issues at all with it fouling anything, though the shortened mudguard obviously helps there somewhat.
Here's a pic showing the raised bellypan ...

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u644/photopia132/P1020834_zpstyxo5sb8.jpg (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/photopia132/media/P1020834_zpstyxo5sb8.jpg.html)

I'll try and get hold of a pic showing the two fitted together.

Mr Gazza
28-12-2015, 10:17 AM
Utopia!....You seem to have two right hands!!...:shocked:

Your extender looks different to mine, the edge is nice and curved where as mine is cut straight.
I found that it just kept all the morecas in the 'guard until it spewed out of the holes between the blade and braces, acting something like a muck spreader.

The extra (small) wieght of the extender, so far from the mounts also made the 'guard even more "twangy" and flimsy feeling than normal.

No fitting instructions were provided with the extender, so I opted for two layers of glazeing tape to to get the outside surface level to the 'guard and match the curve, then sealed the big gap underneath with silicone to keep the tape dry.

The final straw was the dents from hitting the rocker cover. The bike stays much cleaner without it in the same conditions.

Well done for getting yours to work.

Yours
Dissappointed
Norfolk.

Darren69
28-12-2015, 10:45 AM
Too many right hands make light 'fender extender' work?

I've got one of those Spanish carbon ones but didn't like the look of it when offered up, so I never fitted it. I supposed it would look better if it was shortened a fair bit?

utopia
28-12-2015, 11:27 AM
Utopia!....You seem to have two right hands!!...:shocked:


Yeah, that way the right hand always knows what the "other" one is doing. :freak:

I hear you on the "twanginess" too.
The added wind pressure probably doesn't help either.
But the overall weight is similar since thick plastic has been removed and replaced with lighter carbon, albeit perhaps slightly more of it.
I may yet trim the extender a tad.

squarehead
28-12-2015, 06:26 PM
Lee, I've PM'd

Simon

squarehead
28-12-2015, 06:28 PM
This one, 'scuse the crap picture!

http://s5.postimg.org/x0nycym2f/Rear_new_3_4_2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/gcwgagrar/full/)

LVC
28-12-2015, 07:09 PM
You have to be careful with the Carbon tail pieces as some of them don't fit properly - the one in the link Darren69 put up sits too high (you can see in the second picture showing it in place - you can see the ends of the frame which should be hidden within the tail piece) - can't see in squarehead's photo as it's out of focus.

Mine came from Italy but many, many moons ago ....

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll38/LVC1/Monster%20Forum/DSC06089_zpspulvm0zm.jpeg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/LVC1/media/Monster%20Forum/DSC06089_zpspulvm0zm.jpeg.html)

stopintime
29-12-2015, 01:37 AM
You have to be careful with the Carbon tail pieces as some of them don't fit properly - the one in the link Darren69 put up sits too high (you can see in the second picture showing it in place - you can see the ends of the frame which should be hidden within the tail piece) - can't see in squarehead's photo as it's out of focus.
............


It's just a matter of mounting the metal pieces under the frame - both the piece that holds the tail light and plate light. Then it all fits nicely :thumbsup:

Drumnagorrach
29-12-2015, 10:48 AM
Thanks for all the posts .
Saved me getting a fenda extenda from Espania . I ordered one from pyramid plastics ,it was a remnant ,£12 delivered --result !!! I will spray it gloss black as my front mudguard already is and it might not be so noticeable . I to noticed the tailpiece sitting above the frame rails ,that was the carbon world one right ?
Love the rear ,Stopintime ,how do you get away with that no plate ?

stopintime
29-12-2015, 11:09 AM
Thanks for all the posts .
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Love the rear ,Stopintime ,how do you get away with that no plate ?

I'm not sure what you ask...

slob
29-12-2015, 01:22 PM
You mean Tony's bike in the pic?
...he's in France but then Lars isn't in the UK either ;-)

Drumnagorrach
29-12-2015, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure what you ask...

I am not surprised that you don't know what I'm talking about , I confused your name with LVC . However ,now you are here , are you refering to the tail piece from carbon world when you say it fits ok ?

Drumnagorrach
29-12-2015, 03:03 PM
You mean Tony's bike in the pic?
...he's in France but then Lars isn't in the UK either ;-)

Yea ,but that's surely not a legal French plate ,is it ?
I am always envious of the cool rear plates that every country but U.K fits . Love the tiny Spanish plates ,they even have a small car class with tiny plates.

stopintime
29-12-2015, 03:06 PM
I am not surprised that you don't know what I'm talking about , I confused your name with LVC . However ,now you are here , are you refering to the tail piece from carbon world when you say it fits ok ?

Yes. It's a common mistake to mount one of the metal plates over the frame - leaving a gap as pointed out.

Drumnagorrach
29-12-2015, 04:48 PM
Whilst I was taking the tail piece off , I heard a rattle from the number plate light ,I wasn't surprised because it hasn't worked since I got the bike . What did surprise me was, the rattle wasn't caused by the bulb falling out ,it was caused by there being a spare bulb in there as well , and when I fitted it it worked .
Who would be so weird as to keep a spare bulb in the light unit itself , rattling about for f*ck knows how long . But then what do i know ? it worked .

LVC
29-12-2015, 07:25 PM
It's just a matter of mounting the metal pieces under the frame - both the piece that holds the tail light and plate light. Then it all fits nicely :thumbsup:

Makes sense :thumbsup:

My plate is not UK legal nor French legal but because it's on a UK registered bike in France there's nothing the gendarmes can do about it. I have the same size plate (but in Black and Silver) on the front of my Subaru and the one on my Z750 is up under the rear seat/hugger and only just visible - all on the same basis of UK registered but in France and the gendarmes have no powers over "foreign" registered vehicles - been working for me for over 14 years now :mand:

Surprised that this time round no-one asked about my "Scotty rear light" - now that is a very rare item ;)

Drumnagorrach
29-12-2015, 07:47 PM
Makes sense :thumbsup:

My plate is not UK legal nor French legal but because it's on a UK registered bike in France there's nothing the gendarmes can do about it. I have the same size plate (but in Black and Silver) on the front of my Subaru and the one on my Z750 is up under the rear seat/hugger and only just visible - all on the same basis of UK registered but in France and the gendarmes have no powers over "foreign" registered vehicles - been working for me for over 14 years now :mand:

Surprised that this time round no-one asked about my "Scotty rear light" - now that is a very rare item ;)

Thought as much :) Got family in Spain who had been getting away with an untaxed Toyota truck on U.K. plates until recently .

squarehead
29-12-2015, 10:13 PM
Less blurry but a bit dark...

http://s5.postimg.org/6o4ggfbp3/Tail_1.jpg

Less dark but a bit dazzling (& maybe out of focus!)...

http://s5.postimg.org/5kkc4gr1z/Tail_2.jpg

And a side view from lowdown...

http://s5.postimg.org/tn15zc7p3/Tail_3.jpg

Darren69
30-12-2015, 07:26 AM
The Carbonworld tea tray is a very good quality item. Here are some images of the one I had just to give you an idea:-

http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/DarrenS69/Teatray/001_zpsxcogxisp.jpg (http://s770.photobucket.com/user/DarrenS69/media/Teatray/001_zpsxcogxisp.jpg.html)

http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/DarrenS69/Teatray/IMG00164-20150409-2238_zpshr9p30ju.jpg (http://s770.photobucket.com/user/DarrenS69/media/Teatray/IMG00164-20150409-2238_zpshr9p30ju.jpg.html)

http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/DarrenS69/Teatray/004_zps8wdiufdh.jpg (http://s770.photobucket.com/user/DarrenS69/media/Teatray/004_zps8wdiufdh.jpg.html)

http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/DarrenS69/Teatray/003_zpso8f0s4e7.jpg (http://s770.photobucket.com/user/DarrenS69/media/Teatray/003_zpso8f0s4e7.jpg.html)

Even the underside is lacquered and the company name painted/printed on, not a sticker.

Dave G
30-12-2015, 08:40 AM
I have one of those short carbon tail units, one of the first DP (I think?) ones, it took a little fettling to get it fitting correctly I remember but this was a simple thing to do. It was different from that carbonworld one insofar as the securing bolts are attached to the tray directly and quite securely with resin, this resin is not always flat and on mine it needed trimming around the base of the bolt as it had formed a little cone around the bolt that prevented it sitting flush to the frame, once this was done it fitted perfectly.

Drumnagorrach
30-12-2015, 11:33 AM
Great pics, does it sit down enough for the frame ends to be covered ?
I asked the question on ebay about their pic showing the frame ends hanging out below They answered that the pic WAS as fitted . Ah just shakes ma heed .

Darren69
30-12-2015, 11:52 AM
I can't say for sure as I never fitted it and sold it as I didn't have the lower bracket parts and I got a DP one with all the bits. It was clearly a far better build quality than the DP one was and from what others have said it should fit flush with the frame rails if fitted correctly. That probably doesn't help much I know. What I can't understand is how they have it fitted so badly in the ebay pics that it sits so much higher?

Dukedesmo
30-12-2015, 12:11 PM
Not the same type but mine (a DP unit) bolts right through from the top so the screws are visible, but it was supplied with plastic spacers to sit between it and the frame.

I found they were too thick and held it too high for my liking, so I cut them down a few mm for a better fit.

stopintime
30-12-2015, 01:11 PM
Great pics, does it sit down enough for the frame ends to be covered ?
I asked the question on ebay about their pic showing the frame ends hanging out below They answered that the pic WAS as fitted . Ah just shakes ma heed .

I'm guessing they didn't bother bolting it down - just laying the largest metal piece on top to keep it from falling down (easy to see that it indeed is on top and not under).