Ohlins help needed

[d.man]

Hi all - decided to go for an ohlins du 044 unit for my 1994 m900, to replace the old standard (and past it) unit.
However, I seem to be having a problem fitting it. Doesn't seem to fit on the upper rocking arm - ie, cannot get holes to align to fit bolt.

I have assumed (dangerous I know) that it will fit with the ohlins badge facing the rear of the bike and the correct way up?

Any thoughts/advice gratefully received

[Albie]

I have an Ohlins but don't know what model without looking at. Its off the bike but can rig up tomorrow to swingarm or pivot. Its on a early M900 hooped version.

It seems to fit this way around as the hose would fit badly.


http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b423/ukmonster/Monster%20900/20150705_155001.jpg (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/ukmonster/media/Monster%20900/20150705_155001.jpg.html)



Other side


http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b423/ukmonster/Monster%20900/20150705_155018.jpg (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/ukmonster/media/Monster%20900/20150705_155018.jpg.html)

When it was on the bike

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b423/ukmonster/Monster%20900/20150529_183813.jpg (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/ukmonster/media/Monster%20900/20150529_183813.jpg.html)

[d.man]

Mine looks the same, bit without remote reservoir. Will have another go at fitting tomorrow. Really appreciate the pics

[Albie]

Mine looks the same, bit without remote reservoir. Will have another go at fitting tomorrow. Really appreciate the pics

Mine doesn't have a sticker on the shock. I may have to get one for it. I will still double check tomorrow for you but after work. I hope you sort it in between. Have you measured against your stock one or is it inverted or something.

[d.man]

I wondered if it should fit the other way round - but then all the writing would be upside down . Just doesn't seem right.

Appreciate your help and advice - cheers

[Darren69]

Don't know if you know but there are fitting instructions on the Ohlins website, download the pdf.

https://www.ohlins.eu/en/products/motorcycle/du-044--4033/

Might not be much help but if you can find the Ducati Performance instructions if there were ever any, they may be more helpful, lots of pictures etc. I found the ones for the DU 046 useful to see how everything fitted. Can't remember where I downloaded from though, try google Ducati Manuals

[Darren69]

This is the site I got mine from:-

http://www.2ri.de/Document/Ducati-Performance-OEhlins-rear-shock-absorber-kit-96613103B-Monster-S4-2002-2003/4350

[Kato]

Picture is not that clear but it might help

Albie...... this is where the res should fit but you need the original bracket, picture is deceptive its no where near the exhaust

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/kato--/shock.jpg

[Albie]

Picture is not that clear but it might help

Albie...... this is where the res should fit but you need the original bracket, picture is deceptive its no where near the exhaust

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/kato--/shock.jpg

Interesting. That looks tidier and not so after thought. Could you photograph bracket or sizes for me to fabricate possibly.

[Darren69]

If its any help, I think the brackets will be Ducati parts from 900sie '00 that had Ohlins shock as standard.

[Wildfire]

I really need a bracket. Plus a sticker!!

[Kato]

Not without taking it apart mate ......But I seem to remember Slob had some pic's and maybe even a part number could be mistaken though ???

[Kato]

Apologies this is not helping to get a shock fitted

Best I can find Albie, its quite a complicated shape tricky to home make

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/kato--/Sale/Ohlin%20Brac_zpsdcgnqkwi.jpg

[Darren69]

900sie part is 829.1.250.1A Holder

The Parts manual can be downloaded free from:-

http://www.carlsalter.com/ducati-service-manuals.asp

[Albie]

Cheers Rob and that helps me. Sorry about the semi hijack but at least still on Ohlins fitting though. I would like to know whether that fits to the shock or frame in some way. I really intend to remount it tidier away from under my knees for sure.

[Kato]

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/kato--/Sale/Albie_zpsbxwdjir5.jpg

[Albie]

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/kato--/Sale/Albie_zpsbxwdjir5.jpg

Ah gotcha. I always wondered what those brackets were for. I don't see any issues of making a bracket but I will make out of alloy this one and get my main man to weld it up neatly. Thanks for all the info and hope we have some good news at end of day regards the Ohlins actually have been fitted with no issues.

[Dukedesmo]

I have a DU440 on my Monster and I originally fitted the reservoir on the frame as per the earlier pic but I never did like it.

Then I saw the mount in front of the wheel on another post so re-located mine, I made a bracket and used 50mm rubber lined 'P' clips rather than jubilee clips, but the aftermarket DU440 has a much longer hose to the reservoir than the version Ducati fitted so it is difficult to avoid the exhaust if fitted as shown above.

So I fitted the reservoir the other way round so that the hose can sit on the more spacious right-hand side.

http://ducatiforum.co.uk/data/photos/l/5/5689-1432491835-a4c6996fff4f15ebf7c7e5094830ffc6.jpg

Also means the adjuster is easier to get at, especially with the bike on the sidestand.

[Albie]

I have a DU440 on my Monster and I originally fitted the reservoir on the frame as per the earlier pic but I never did like it.

Then I saw the mount in front of the wheel on another post so re-located mine, I made a bracket and used 50mm rubber lined 'P' clips rather than jubilee clips, but the aftermarket DU440 has a much longer hose to the reservoir than the version Ducati fitted so it is difficult to avoid the exhaust if fitted as shown above.

So I fitted the reservoir the other way round so that the hose can sit on the more spacious right-hand side.

http://ducatiforum.co.uk/data/photos/l/5/5689-1432491835-a4c6996fff4f15ebf7c7e5094830ffc6.jpg

Also means the adjuster is easier to get at, especially with the bike on the sidestand.

This is turning into info excellanti and a superb on subject hijack. Thanks and picture gladly saved as in my pic folder for further reference.

[d.man]

Hi all - have got the ohlins shock all fitted - took it out for an afternoons ride and it wasn't all I hoped for (front end was light at times). I assumed that it would come ready set up for me, as I had to give weight etc etc.

Any road up; I have set the shock to within the parameters advised in the ohlins manual (7mm free sag and 35mm ride height).

It is noticeably better but still has a vagueness at times, mostly at lower speeds. I then leant forward (more than normal) and hunkered down, and the vagueness stopped.

Am assuming by doing that, I lowered the centre if gravity. Was ok for a few mins ride, but not suitable for an afternoons ride.

How can I adjust the rear shock to achieve this? My shock has the adjusting rings and rebound collar at the base (currently set to recommended 14 clicks).

Thanks as always

[Darkness]

Check your front and rear ride heights: you may want to drop the front slightly or raise the rear (Or a bit of each) to get more weight onto the front end.

That would also reduce the trail of the front suspension, which would reduce straight line stability, so try small increments of change.

[d.man]

Sounds like a good idea Darkness - can the rear shock be adjusted to increase height? If so, what's the best way of doing so?

Cheers

[Dukedesmo]

Sounds like a good idea Darkness - can the rear shock be adjusted to increase height? If so, what's the best way of doing so?

Cheers

There is a little bit of adjustment on the joints where the hoop connects to the swingarm but not much as you need to keep enough thread in the hoop.

Look at my pic above and you'll see a stainless steel height increaser between hoop and joint, this gives a 25mm increase (available from Louigimoto).

Otherwise you can get (if you can find one and afford it) adjustable linkages that were made for Superbike racing for the 851/888 that share the same rear suspension as the early Monster...

[Darkness]

Like the man said: try the adjustment that's already there, and if you then want more, get the Luigi extenders.

Dropping the front is easier, unless you've got adjustable Showa forks and they are tight to the underside of the handlebars.

You can also adjust the seats for the spring on the back shock, but can run out of suspension travel if you overdo it.

I would recommend measuring and recording static sag at both ends so you have a starting point to refer changes back to, then try small changes, one at a time to find what works for you.

[d.man]

Thanks for the advice everyone - I have added a couple of turns to rear shock, and will ride tomorrow. I have non-adjustable Showa forks - with 5.5mm of the fork casing above the top yoke.

Will look at adjusters on the hoop as the adjusters are wound fully in - wish there was an easy way to adjust them!

[Darren69]

Raise rear about an inch and try that and then drop front if needed. Standard rear settings are too rear biased which leaves the front vague. Front is about right but may need tweaking. If you want it to handle like a superbike (as it should) then geometry needs to reflect that and from experience rear needs more height. They do kits for the older style monster which do just that. I had the same issue with my S4, like I want to wheelie out of every corner and generally end up at some random point on the road?

[d.man]

Hi all - raised the rear, using standard adjusters, by approx 10mm. Seemed to make a difference, so have ordered some risers (30mm).
Will soon arrive and will fit ASAP. Fingers crossed.

Did also wonder if adjusting handlebars to lower hand height would help at all?

Thanks as always

[Darren69]

Maybe the bars can be tipped forwards a bit which may help. Clip ons will make a difference as they will move your body to put more weight on the front.