Pics with clip ons? Post em!

[JMH900sie]

Hey guys, toying with the idea of clip ons. Help me decide!

Thanks!

Joe

[Darren69]

http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/DarrenS69/0eb83440-c4ff-49b6-9d7a-02b8f8b52f19_zpsxjy1sutp.jpg (http://s770.photobucket.com/user/DarrenS69/media/0eb83440-c4ff-49b6-9d7a-02b8f8b52f19_zpsxjy1sutp.jpg.html)

[JMH900sie]

That's beautiful! Keep em coming guys!

[stopintime]

Swatt 3.5" risers - discontinued, so check Woodcraft.


http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/Mods2012001.jpg[/URL]

[Darren69]

Mine are Woodcraft w/- 3" rise. I still have to make some minor adjustments to mine as the bars nearly hit the tank on full lock, and I had to reduce the lock movement quite a bit too, so what little there was originally is now even less, any more and junctions would be interesting. Its kind of difficult as the standard brake lines limit movement somewhat.

Are you running Radial masters with 2 full brake lines Stopintime? I would like to see how they are routed as I plan to go with 2 full lines but may not have budget this year for upgrading to radial m/c so would probably have to stick with the standard axial goldlines.

[stopintime]

I have a radial from a Streetfighter, from one line at the master through a T-junction into two lines behind the headlight. This was made custom to fit '996' calipers and radial master.



Notice the espresso sticker by the turn signal switch

[Darren69]

Yea, I'd seen it before when you posted pic. What's that all about? 2 cups is right and 1 cup left

[squarehead]

I've gone for an above the bar set up as I didn't want to modify the headlight holder just yet to get the clocks at the right height... maybe a project for the future!

Rizomas allow a small height adjustment on the forks legs, have a nice sweep (adjustable) and are very well made!

http://s5.postimg.org/fvhxj5ohf/Tank_bars_clocks.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/fvhxj5ohf/)

http://s5.postimg.org/pilfsvhgz/Bars_clocks.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/pilfsvhgz/)

http://s5.postimg.org/rlvv0jh9v/Bars_3_4_view.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/rlvv0jh9v/)

Bars are a tad lower than standard, certainly not as severe as the full race orientated clip on set up. The yoke is lovely and I went for the DP steerer stem nut, seemed rude not to!

[Darren69]

I tried some straight clip ons and they were too low for me and the clocks are then too high. If you go for 2-3 " rise or the rizomas the clocks look ok and you don't have to extend any thing like brake lines but it is fiddly getting in all to fit. I had the added complication of getting the steering damper to fit without fouling anything and the triples on mine have an eccentric cam for adjustable rake so the centre nut sits higher and wouldn't work with the rizomas. If you want to go for the rizoma type pm me.

[JMH900sie]

I'm kinda leaning towards getting some that fit below the top yoke. I'm quite tall, and feel cramped on the bike at speed...... My mate has a gsxr750 that I've just returned after borrowing it for a week, and that was lovely and comfy......

Joe

[Darren69]

That would probably be your best option as you can't lower the top yoke mounted type. At least with the Woodcrafts you can buy different sized riser plates so you can customize to pretty much any height you want, afaik they do 0, 1, 2 and 3" rise, maybe 2.5" and you can have any colour you like as long as its black. They're not flashy as some but they are very versatile and cheapest that I've seen is on ebay from the US. A lot of the UK sellers charge the same price in £ as $. I didn't use the hollow tube bars they provided preferring instead to use the solid billet Factory Racing bars at £12 each although if you want to drill for the switchgear pins it would be easier with the hollow type. I somewhat lazily ground the pins off the switch gear and used black electrical tape to stop them slipping around.

[JMH900sie]

Did you mention having a pair you weren't using?

[PaulV]

Here is mine...

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p426/PaulV090970/Hopetoun%2010/P1040702.jpg (http://s346.photobucket.com/user/PaulV090970/media/Hopetoun%2010/P1040702.jpg.html)

[pompone]

I've had a few different ones
Ducati SS
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/pomp_one/DSC00070.jpg
RoadRacing
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/pomp_one/various/DSC00149.jpg
Currently have a pair of my own ones ;)
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/pomp_one/Desmo%20Performance%20Parts/image.jpg1_zps8bgr53lx.jpg

[Wildfire]

I would put up a pic of mine, but I bought the Road Racing ones off Pompone.

[Flip]

Tomaselli for me albeit not on a Monster and perhaps a little sparse for road use and with only about four inches between lock to lock might make U turns a bit awkward but Google them and you'll find they do make several types that'll fit a Monster.

http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/fluke900/IMG_4095_zps2x9m9o6h.jpg (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/fluke900/media/IMG_4095_zps2x9m9o6h.jpg.html)

Jota(ish) style on a Monster:
http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag329/fluke900/Tomaselli_zpsgi11dhiq.jpg (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/fluke900/media/Tomaselli_zpsgi11dhiq.jpg.html)

[Darren69]

Actually, proper Jota bars would work pretty well with the standard center clamp. I would have been tempted to try it myself but I have an S4 so no center clamp.

[Dave G]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/salsajayne/Ducati%20Monster%20S2R/jun2007004.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/salsajayne/media/Ducati%20Monster%20S2R/jun2007004.jpg.html)

This is an old photo but apart from new forks it still like this

[JMH900sie]

What about the cheap eBay clip ons? Any good?

I mean, money's bit hugely available right now...... And 30 quid for a pair seems decent!

Joe

[Dave G]

If your searching ebay then some clip ons sold for GSXR and R1 fittings will fit our forks too, cant remember offhand which years but it widens the choice considerably.

[JMH900sie]

The top of out fork tubes is 50mm..... Any that size will fit :)

[utopia]

Personally, I'd have no worries about buying cheap Chinese clip-ons.
They're a fairly straightforward, simple component and Chinese ally is as good as anyone else's.
I'd probably pick a design that didn't look too flimsy though.
And I'd possibly go for silver anodising to avoid potential fade.

[AmoK]

Got couple of those at home, one pair is in the bike now.
Word of warning, they might not fit as you would hope. This of course depends on the design you use, so pick well, or prepare to buy couple of them.
The problem I had was that there was not really enough space for the brake and clutch master cylinders, so that the levers are not in correct angle, which forces your wrists to a nasty position.
(similar to these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CNC-50mm-Clip-On-HandleBar-One-Pair-Silver-Color-For-Yamaha-YZF750R-1994-1997-/201114836704?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ed360dee0)
I'll post some pics once I get home...

I'm going to fit the other pair later this week and try them out, should be a bit better.
(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271571641437?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Quality is not too bad, they are pretty simple parts, but the bars are quite thick tubes.

Just looking at these: (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-Universal-50mm-CNC-Gold-Clip-On-Handle-bar-for-Honda-Suzuki-Yamaha-Kawasaki-/251929591297?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3aa82c7e01) I would recon that the clip on might hit your tank, or limit your turning range. At least in my bike it is not very far, and this design has the bolts in such a direction that it might not be good. Don't know for sure though..

[JMH900sie]

Can you please chuck some pics of the ones your putting on up, once they're fitted? I was thinking of getting the same ones, but was thinking the riser bit might not clear the yokes

If not, the last type is the ones I'm going for :)

Joe

[Dave G]

There's been loads of guys fitting clip ons in the past, have a trawl through some of the old posts and you'll find the same things being asked about in most of them too.

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/search.php?searchid=2485109


The trickiest thing about the whole excercise is fitting it all back together in a smaller space, it's a puzzle with no particular right or wrong way, just trial amd arror.

I will say that a double banjo bolt on the master cylinder will cause you no end of grief to refit, as will packing a (now) too long brake hose back in there, reading through the old threads will highlight what to expect.

It's not difficult BTW, just frustrating, and will take longer than you thought.

[AmoK]

Yea, well.. I kind of "cheated" and put the clip-ons on top of the triple =) This way I was able to drop the front a bit and kept the bars higher... The other option would have been woodcraft with 2,5-3" rise, which were a bit off my budget at the moment... It is still a big drop, when compared to the original handlebars.

So this is how it is now:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26647560/Clipons1.jpg
and here is the issue I mentioned about the angle, might be nothing for shorter rider...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26647560/Clipons2.jpg
About mounting them under the top triple, I don't know. I would say its not going to fit, but it just might.
This last pic is the bars full on left side, there really is not much space.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26647560/Clipons3.jpg
Now check how the fixing screws on the last link, they might be little tight fit. Maybe something like this might fit better (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clip-on-Handle-Bars-50mm-for-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX6R-ZX636-ZX10R-ZX14-ZX-600-1000-/321647572475?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae3b075fb) or this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tarazon-50mm-clip-on-handlebars-Silver-billet-aluminium-alloy-cafe-racer-/131486716921?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e9d3813f9)

[Darren69]

Yep, agreed. The single 1 into 2 brake line will fit back again but not very well and the pipework is all contorted. I was thinking that a double banjo with 2 lines would be better but that again might still be a problem but having 2 brake lines would be better to work with. That is what I'm hoping anyway.

[JMH900sie]

Yea, well.. I kind of "cheated" and put the clip-ons on top of the triple =) This way I was able to drop the front a bit and kept the bars higher... The other option would have been woodcraft with 2,5-3" rise, which were a bit off my budget at the moment... It is still a big drop, when compared to the original handlebars.

So this is how it is now:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26647560/Clipons1.jpg
and here is the issue I mentioned about the angle, might be nothing for shorter rider...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26647560/Clipons2.jpg
About mounting them under the top triple, I don't know. I would say its not going to fit, but it just might.
This last pic is the bars full on left side, there really is not much space.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26647560/Clipons3.jpg
Now check how the fixing screws on the last link, they might be little tight fit. Maybe something like this might fit better (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clip-on-Handle-Bars-50mm-for-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX6R-ZX636-ZX10R-ZX14-ZX-600-1000-/321647572475?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae3b075fb) or this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tarazon-50mm-clip-on-handlebars-Silver-billet-aluminium-alloy-cafe-racer-/131486716921?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e9d3813f9)

Can you post a pic of your other ones up?

[AmoK]

I will, as soon as get then mounted.

[Willthedub]

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/willthedub/AD3D63F7-BD67-4AA3-936A-6980264D7696_zps8sjhp7ig.jpg


http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/willthedub/AFE5265E-4C6D-47D8-98B4-32D5B4E7033D_zpsgiwtoa4s.jpg

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/willthedub/55912054-D558-45CC-B7B8-1BB172BA95CD_zps3m54nnfz.jpg

Rizoma top yoke with m-factory clip ons

Probably be selling this set up soon

[slob]

http://www.thelasturl.net/img/footrestM.jpg
LSL Sport Match high bars and Speedymoto top yoke

[AmoK]

Finally got the new ones mounted.
The ones that I had fitted previously (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CNC-50mm-Clip-On-HandleBar-One-Pair-Silver-Color-For-Yamaha-YZF750R-1994-1997-/201114836704?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ed360dee0) I chose because of the adjustments, let me down (almost literally). The bolt holding the bars at place, went loose suddenly, and luckily it was not during braking. The bar went loose and was free to pivot down, which made the driving a bit difficult...

The later ones I thought that would be better (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271571641437?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT), were a bit better, but not perfect. Again my wrist position was too sharp angle, so not good for me... Other than that, the brake lines might be difficult to get to fit well, as the clocks will be on the way(especially if they are not lowered, mine are).

So my final solution was to use old clip on frames, that I got from fellow club member here in Finland, that had broken bars. I fitted the bars from these Chinese clipons and that did the trick. There is a bit more rise on these, and the shape is so that it allows the levers to be turned to a correct position.
Unfortunately I have no idea what brand these are. What ever they are, they are going to stay on the bike...
On the left are the Chinese clipons and on the right is the unknown clipons..
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26647560/Clipons4.jpg

So after going all this through, I might recommend to use some "quality" brand that actually fit the monster, or find some model that you have seen fitted to one. Or you might have to try several different cheap ones (like I did) and you will end up probably using the same amount of money than you would have if you bought the bit more expensive ones straight up.

If someone wants to try out either of the ones I have had in the pics, I will be happy to part with them at reasonably low cost + postage ;)

[lewis]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/lewis203/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0205_zpsc5bf7b8a.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lewis203/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0205_zpsc5bf7b8a.jpg.html)

[Nasher]

This thread spurred me into action to try the Rizoma clamps I brought from a member on here a couple of months ago.

Brought some tube and fitted the assemblies last night only to find one of the clamps is bent right at the point where the tube clamp meets the fork clamp, so the left hand bar is flat but the right hand bar is angled down about 20 deg. :banghead:

Must have had quite a knock to bend in that way.

Job for the weekend is to heat it up and try bending it back, but it's going to be really awkward.

Nasher.

[squarehead]

I wouldn't heat and bend Nasher, if it's had a bash I'd replace. My Rizomas (see earlier in thread) bars are bonded into the bar mount and they're aluminium.
Both if these facts preclude heating and bending.
Are yours different?
And did you buy them as damaged?

[bigredduke]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAn1hc8q6w0Ihx3Im_3S1ZmDTPlV8Mq q3niI2PRzLK_eRTZRCvQQ

[Nasher]

I wouldn't heat and bend Nasher, if it's had a bash I'd replace. My Rizomas (see earlier in thread) bars are bonded into the bar mount and they're aluminium.
Both if these facts preclude heating and bending.
Are yours different?
And did you buy them as damaged?

The bars in mine are clamped, not bonded, so must be different.
http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y481/Nashersimages/Clamp%201_zps91kt59no.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/Nashersimages/media/Clamp%201_zps91kt59no.jpg.html)
Yes the clamps must have been bent when I brought them, but it wasn't until I put the tubes in them that I could see it.

Can't afford to just throw them away without trying to straighten them.

Nasher.

[utopia]

They are rather nice though, Nasher.
They look like they're the same era as my Rizoma rearsets.
Shame about the bend and, as you say, straightening won't be easy without distorting the main bore etc.
Might I ask ...what is the centre distance between the two holes on the sticky-out bits ? I'm just wondering if some like these would fit my std top yoke.

[Nasher]

Might I ask ...what is the centre distance between the two holes on the sticky-out bits ? I'm just wondering if some like these would fit my std top yoke.

The holes are on 32mm centres, same as the clamps on my 97 M900.

I'm going to turn a 22mm section on the end of a length of 1in solid bar I have later, should get enough leverage to bend them back with that, or, more likely, fracture them beyond repair.

Nasher

[utopia]

If memory serves, aluminium alloy has unusual annealing properties.
Again, memory is vague but I think its due to the copper content in the alloy.
I definitely remember something about "age-hardening" of these alloys, with copper being the culprit.
So if these are old they may well be much hardened and could do with re-annealing before bending.
Maybe you're familiar with this but if not, a quick google might be worthwhile.

I also remember Roger Almond (customs) saying on a tv build-off programme that he annealed ally before bending it and I think his method was to blacken it witth an acetylene-rich flame, then heat until the black carbon burned off indicating that the correct temp had been reached, then (I think) quenching.

Dunno whether any of this helps but it can't hinder, eh ?

Thanks for the info.
And good luck.