Ducati Scrambler next year

[Dirty]

Got this e mail today

http://ducati.mag-news.it/nl/n.jsp?7g.Bn2v.Gn16.C6b.QE.G6su

http://ducati.mag-news.it/nl/clienti/3808/img/dem_scrambler_2014-06-09.jpg

The vid (http://scramblerducati.com/) doesn't show much but as long as it has a GPI I want one :mand:

[LouSCannon]

Yeah think Ducati must have hired a social marketer! Emails, all over Facebook and Twitter... I might buy one and stick a Monster sticker on for next year's April 1st...

[pompone]

At least it appears to have a round light and not that hideous thing they've been testing it with..

[Mikemostro]

Nice teaser :thumbsup:
Hope the bike will be nice :spin:
Looking to see it :rolleyes:

[bluestoesonnose]

The outline looks like an M series Monster....

[steeevvvooo]

The advert was designed for the social media generation. Made me feel old, but like the idea of it. Given the popularity of movements like bike shed there could be a strong market for this bike!

Edit: just googled the spy shots and it looks less cool than the video suggested! (IMO of course)

[Albie]

Offset speedo only . Good. Little light. Good.

Single cylinder who knows. Would be good.

Just like the bike I have but better hopefully.

Cant wait to see.

[Dirty]

The advert was designed for the social media generation. Made me feel old, but like the idea of it. Given the popularity of movements like bike shed there could be a strong market for this bike!

Edit: just googled the spy shots and it looks less cool than the video suggested! (IMO of course)

Spy shots are likely to be highly disguised which I'm guessing, on a bike, is a lot easier than on a car. Could be significantly different, diff lights, tank perhaps even.

[Rally]

I managed to get the side shot of it from the video, here it is.
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy142/UKMOC-Rally/imagejpg1_zps068cbdd7.jpg (http://s786.photobucket.com/user/UKMOC-Rally/media/imagejpg1_zps068cbdd7.jpg.html)

So what does that tell us? The front of the engine will get covered as the front muddy is to look cool and not stop any mud, is that a banana double sided swinging arm or a single sider? The rev counter will be an option by the looks of it, as it only comes with an offset speedo. And it's got one of those dreadful number plate holders like a Diavel. :-(

[J.P]

And that doesn't much look like a scambler shape does it ?

[Gilps]

Looks like a Monster to me.

[cactus]

Looks like a Monster to me.

You're right, it does.

[Nickj]

Small front mudguard, low ground clearance = not 'scrambler'

BUT

Add chunky block tyres and there ya go 'scrambler'

Really its going to be more of a scrabbler if the grounds anything less than smooth and dry preferably covered in tarmac.

Having said that I've sometimes taken mine down firebreaks when the weathers been really bad. I'm positive that the addition of block pattern tyres whould have seen me well able to see off Gaston Rahier without breaking a sweat.


What its not

http://www.twt.cnnet.it/Racconti/Gaston_Rahier_1999/Rahier_BMW.jpg



More on the lines of


http://www.650motorcycles.com/images/BSAflyer1.jpg

[LouSCannon]

I remember a 2.1 mile road in Belgium where a Monster 1000 and S4Rs, both fully loaded for touring, went off roading in gravel and rocks (Remember Rob:) )... does that mean Monsters are scramblers in disguise?

[rbt1548]

I was intrigued had a look and found a video describing the Scrambler and got a couple of snaps, I must admit I like this version.

There are a few different versions on here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANnMENygtiM


http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp194/rbt1548/Scrambler1_zps7801a7ec.png (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/rbt1548/media/Scrambler1_zps7801a7ec.png.html)

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp194/rbt1548/scrambler2_zps85593157.png (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/rbt1548/media/scrambler2_zps85593157.png.html)

[utopia]

er........air-cooled engine ?
I thought they were having to be phased out because their massive levels of pollution are killing the planet ....????
Oh hang on though, there's a new marketing angle for a trendy non-scrambler you say ?
Well that's different then.

[tricolore]

http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/march/ducati-scrambler-spied/#.UzSr7CcgGSO

Hope to god it doesn't end up looking like this :worried:

[Darren69]

Judging by the silhouette, I have a sneaky suspicion that is what it is going to look like, minus the headlamp.

[SunEye]

er........air-cooled engine ?
I thought they were having to be phased out because their massive levels of pollution are killing the planet ....????
Oh hang on though, there's a new marketing angle for a trendy non-scrambler you say ?
Well that's different then.
As Honda and BMW have shown you can make air-cooled engines that meet current and proposed future emissions regulations. It is just that Ducati want to reduce the number of different engines they make and so the Monster has to go water-cooled and they don't think that it will harm sales of their biggest selling bikes. The Monster no longer being air-cooled is nothing to do with emissions regs. Whether the Scrambler becomes Ducati's next SportClassic (i.e. doesn't sell well) remains to be seen. Personally I'm not convinced by what I have seen so far.

[utopia]

Hmmm....so one would assume that the aircooled motors for the "scrambler" are eventually to be phased out too, if Ducati wish to streamline their production.....?
Maybe they intend to only build a few, just mopping up existing stocks and perhaps honouring commitments to their suppliers of parts for the aircooled motors.

Thinking laterally, I reckon a better move would have been to set up a small, franchised team to continue build just aircooled monsters, in small quantities, and with perhaps an "exclusive" price tag.
A bit like Norton's operation.
Perhaps with the occasional " enthusiast's special" from time to time.
I reckon its a project that could have run for years, and the costs shouldn't be prohibitive cos all the major development work has been done.
Heck, we could even have built them here in England.

Then again, presumably there will still need to be a certain spares back-up for the aircooled motors, so maybe all is not yet lost.

[Albie]

I wouldnt be suprised if they bought some OTHER single cylinder engine possibly water cooled or similar around 5-600 cc. Makes more sense to me.

[utopia]

Yes, but then they'd just be building the same bikes as everyone else.
It may be a proven business formula, but if you're about making MOTORCYCLES rather than simply about making money, and you have a heritage like Ducati's, then why not follow your heart and build an aircooled, desmo, short-stroke single ?
Ok, a business has to survive, but remember what the original monsters did for Ducati.
I reckon there's scope to do the same thing with a desmo single, and possibly in doing so to create yet another icon like the monster is (was ?).

As for the scrambler.....why wouldn't you buy a Hypermotard instead ..??
Unless you're besotted by the pseudo-retro, styling thing.

[Darren69]

Are they going to continue building 796 Monsters as an entry level bike? The Scrambler seems like a bit of a niche market to me whereas the 796 would probably continue to sell whatever.

[Rally]

:bunny:Are they going to continue building 796 Monsters as an entry level bike? The Scrambler seems like a bit of a niche market to me whereas the 796 would probably continue to sell whatever.

I hear the 796 will go and the smallest Monster will be the new 821, the entry level Ducati will be the Scrambler.

[Darren69]

That seems a bit short-sighted to me. To drop a popular model for something that won't appeal to as many potential Ducati owners?

[LouSCannon]

http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/june/new-ducati-scambler-spy-shots/?utm_source=twfb&utm_medium=social&utm_content=scramblerspyshots&utm_campaign=bikesocial#.U5hCCpRdVFB

[Dukedesmo]

http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/june/new-ducati-scambler-spy-shots/?utm_source=twfb&utm_medium=social&utm_content=scramblerspyshots&utm_campaign=bikesocial#.U5hCCpRdVFB

Don't think that exhaust'll be very popular... :mand:

[Davidg1230]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/davidg1230/DucatiScrambler.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/davidg1230/media/DucatiScrambler.jpg.html)

[smiffyraf1]

id love that if they built a new version of the bevel SS, **** id put deposit down tomorrow

[pompone]

I like that is aircooled :)

[smiffyraf1]

hmm wonder if it will have spoked wheels and if they will fit a monster as that looks like a monster rear

[NattyBoy]

come on ducati - prove me wrong and that actually your designers havent lost the plot :>)

[gary tompkins]

Wow... I hope the production version looks a lot better than the spy shot

What a pile of crap

[Rally]

Why wait, if you want a real original cool Scrambler, buy a Triumph! Those at the Weekender saw how well they go when being run in! :D

[pompone]

Why wait, if you want a real original cool Scrambler, buy a Triumph! Those at the Weekender saw how well they go when being run in! :D

Because is being built with parts from this century ;)

[bigredduke]

Just think how well a set of leopard skin leathers would go with that.

[Albie]

I saw another shot of it yesterday believed real look. Had the yellow tank and similar tank decals frim original. Looked actually good. Wire wheels too.

[Dirty]

I like the idea, I like what little I've seen of it. I'm being slowly put off by the annoying social network PR.

[JMo]

Wow... I hope the production version looks a lot better than the spy shot...

Here's another photo of a mule being tested - probably closer to what it will actually look like (and much better?):

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr289/JMoandpiglet/other%20pix/2015-Ducati-Scrambler-testing-spy-photos-03_zpsb4c41bd2.jpg

Not sure on the stock fuel range though - it looks like those long-range auxiliary fuel tanks are going to need a little more design work... ;o)

Jx

[JMo]

Why wait, if you want a real original cool Scrambler, buy a Triumph! Those at the Weekender saw how well they go when being run in! :D

It's funny, I know there wasn't a lot of love for the Sport Classic GT (compared to the others) when it came out, but I'd have thought it was ripe for conversion to a scrambler:

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr289/JMoandpiglet/other%20pix/2006-Ducati-GT1000e_zps979353e7.jpg

The rear end was always way too high for a 'street bike' in my opinion, but stick a set of Multistrada forks on it (and perhaps a high level exhaust), loose the rear mudguard, and I reckon you'd have a very nice retro scrambler pretty much using stock parts?

Shame they command a premium now, or I'd be tempted to build one myself!

Jx

[steeevvvooo]

http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/march/ducati-scrambler-spied/#.UzSr7CcgGSO

Hope to god it doesn't end up looking like this :worried:

That's what I saw. Hope the finished one looks better as the concept sounds quite cool

[Dirty]

Here's another photo of a mule being tested - probably closer to what it will actually look like (and much better?):

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr289/JMoandpiglet/other%20pix/2015-Ducati-Scrambler-testing-spy-photos-03_zpsb4c41bd2.jpg

Not sure on the stock fuel range though - it looks like those long-range auxiliary fuel tanks are going to need a little more design work... ;o)

Jx

I'm loving the forward facing cannon and the snorkel :biggrin:

[gary tompkins]

That looks weird - wonder what all that extra gear was for?

[Darren69]

The front bit was for catching flies and converting them into biofuel which is stored in the rear tank! :)

[Dirty]

It was to do with emissions testing. For most of the day the whole bike was shrouded in some sort of ally box as well. There is video of it scraping the corners.

[Rally]

The front looks like an air box being tested for forced air induction?

The back looks like it just wants to attract attention so people see it!

[pompone]

Rear is to mimic 2 up ;)

[jerry]

I think I might like that scrambler ,, but will it go as well as my S4 up wet mountain jungle tracks in Thailand ???????

[Dirty]

WDW people, is this it?

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/1937445_10203446605719965_6609772146897049352_n.jp g

[jonzi]

Didn't see it.

Uncle Rob did though. I think he liked it.

I am sure he will be along after Silverstone to tell you that he has signed a NDA and couldn't possibly tell you if that is indeed how it looks.

[steeevvvooo]

Can't help but think it looks like a Chinese copy of a monster there? Hopefully it looks better in the flesh/official shots

[slob]

That's a very heavily disguised one. The real thing rocks... Everyone will want one, think 'bastard love child of M796 and a VanVan'

[MrsC_772]

Having seen it in the flesh at WDW, the real one is much truer to the look of the original Scrambler than I'd expected or been led to believe by the spy shots.

Metal fuel tank - for the E10 paranoid!

I agree with Slob's summary that it's the bastard love child of an M796 and a VanVan - there's definitely some VanVan to it. However, I'm not entirely sure who it's aimed at. Can't see myself owning one, but it was quite funky and to some extent, better embodies the more minimalist Monster spirit than the newer more cluttered looking water cooled Monsters.

[Dukedesmo]

I've seen the Ducati Scrambler, I've ridden it.

In fact here's a pic of it;

http://ducatiforum.co.uk/forum/data/photos/l/2/2185-1380571968-bc20fc5c4d5d6be5fde652ad81114dc6.jpg

:biggrin:

[Dirty]

I want one then

[Albie]

Having seen it in the flesh at WDW, the real one is much truer to the look of the original Scrambler than I'd expected or been led to believe by the spy shots.

Metal fuel tank - for the E10 paranoid!

I agree with Slob's summary that it's the bastard love child of an M796 and a VanVan - there's definitely some VanVan to it. However, I'm not entirely sure who it's aimed at. Can't see myself owning one, but it was quite funky and to some extent, better embodies the more minimalist Monster spirit than the newer more cluttered looking water cooled Monsters.

Aimed at people who have a wider view of motorcycle riding with a basis of fun and practicality.

[Dirty]

Aimed at people who have a wider view of motorcycle riding with a basis of fun and practicality.

The exact reason I bought a Monster, now I really really want one.

But I bet I won't be willing to pay the price they set for it :)

[walpole68]

Never seen a actual picture but think I want one and don't really know why !

[Rally]

So if you guys that went to WDW saw it, why can't someone post a picture up for us all to see? We have all seen sneak shots, but a proper one would be nice.

[crust]

Because it was in a shipping container and you weren't allowed to take cameras or phones in.

Plus it was really hot and the queue long, so we took 821 monsters out for an attempted thrash. I say attempted because the fun police have been all over the design. No stoppies, wheelies or skids allowed :(

[Dirty]

One on eBay already http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ducati-scrambler-250-/271564737383?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:GB:3160

[Mr Gazza]

The seller has put it down as belt drive?
Is that the final drive or the camshaft?...It must be a little tiny belt running in that tube on the right hand side of the engine?..:chuckle:

It will be interesting to see how much it goes for, and how that compares to the tag on the new one.

[slob]

There's a mint 450 in the classifieds at £11K. The only hint I could get on the new one at WDW was under €10K, no idea how reliable the info is. Ducati UK will quite happily take a deposit, if my garage was bigger I wouldn't hesitate. I'd love a 1200S too but don't want to part with either of my current Monsters

[Dirty]

So £9995 for the standard one then :)

[neilo]

So £9995 for the standard one then :)

Surely not that cheap? It'll be £9,999.99! :D

[steeevvvooo]

is it me, or is this (official link from Ducati website) targeted firmly at the bikeshed/Shoreditch crowd?

Very trendy looking pre launch hype :look:

[slob]

Its the social media/rumour approach, they're controlling what you can see very tightly. Seems to be working for them so far.
this is their official silouette
http://www.thelasturl.net/scrambler-t.jpg
from the shirts at WDW

[Dirty]

Looks like a monster to me

[buzzbomb]

Looks like a monster to me

NO thats how the monster should have looked...:twak:

Couldn't be arsed to stand in line at WDW to see it in the container as I'm not in the market for a new bike and besides I'll see enough of them when I deliver them to their new owners next year...:thumbsup:

[J.P]

Isn't the seat too slanted to be proper retro ?

[Dirty]

No

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