Gloves

[bex]

Is there a big difference between the mid and high range stuff?

I'm quite tired of breaking my hands. Ive read about Knox Handriods/Held Titans and Dainese Full Metal Pro's most of which are beefier with the protection on the upper side of the palm or have all singing and dancing exo skeletons malarky.

Not sure I buy the hype, at about £250 quid none of them are cheap. Anyone got any experience or thoughts?

Having now binned it high side in both a pair of Kush|tani's and a pair of Alpinestars GP Pros and broken both hands in the metacarpal area my glove faith is running low, both sets looked fairly unharmed too so it's mostly impact causing the damage to my jazz bands.

I'd try not crashing but that seems less likely.

[steeevvvooo]

Some massive winter gloves will provide you with the padding you obviously need. Or maybe eat more pies?

[bex]

I don't think that winter gloves will provide much 'feel' on the track. :)

You've clearly spent too long in that ice hotel.

[pompone]

I've just crashed wearing Alpinestars GP One (now GP Plus carbon or something). Gloves are fuc*ed, hands are fine.

[Char]

if nothing else a bit of eye kandy :dizzy:

http://youtu.be/iL7TDNVqQ5M

[slob]

http://www.prc.it/pag/carbonwear-en.html

Capirossi had the same problem and got custom extra-padded gloves
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcToYR9q-CFn0StdS8mSWIDwlUI27zxHXtgKDzPRx5AjEwBISd7N

[Dirty]

Protection and bling, what's not to like?

http://gameciety.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/gauntlet.jpg

[don_matese]

Protection and bling, what's not to like?

http://gameciety.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/gauntlet.jpg

remember to use ACF50 on it to stop it corroding in the salt spray during the winter...

[Stafford]

Boxing gloves :yoparty:

[pegboy]

keep your hands tucked in

[jonzi]

If both times you have broken your hand then it suggests that you mostly land on your hands.

No amount of gloves are going to stop you breaking there, and if they did it would probably move the break to your arm or wrist instead.

As Pegboy suggests you could try pullling your hands in when flying. Natural reaction is to stick em out though.

When I used to skateboard a fella I knew had fecked wrists, but watching him slam down stairs over and over, he would pull his dodgy arm in to his body.

good luck with that!

Or don't crash. Analyse what went wrong every time and try not to do it again.

[sapone cremoso]

Shame to hear about your hands Bex, I still skateboard & think it is all about how you slam. Had a 70 mph off in gp techs with the same result as pompone. Tuck & roll baby

[Wildfire]

Has droids have a lot of sliders on them so that may help if you crash again, so they'll slide and potentially reduce the impact.

I've crashed in A* 360 GTX. Gloves fell to pieces, hands cut up. Not impressed. Been riding in A* SP1's for 18 months. The stitching is in pieces and thumb has opened up. I'm never buying A* gloves again.

Next pair will be Held Phantom 2's. Whether I can justify £180 on gloves....

[slob]

...Whether I can justify £180 on gloves....

If you see what Bex's hands look like, you might settle for a couple of hundred quid quite quickly. I know having the soles of both my feet black and blue all over caused me to buy daytona evo boots without much hesitation.

[jonzi]

.... Whether I can justify £180 on gloves....

Surely if something is going to protect you then money is no object?

If the choice was a £50 helmet or a £500 which would you go for?

[Dirty]

Surely if something is going to protect you then money is no object?

If the choice was a £50 helmet or a £500 which would you go for?

£50 and try not to fall off :mand:

[Wildfire]

Surely if something is going to protect you then money is no object?

If the choice was a £50 helmet or a £500 which would you go for?

The best gloves I ever had were Dani Sport, fitted amazingly and lasted ages. The Velcro hooks went. £25 admittedly on sale.

Currently I have 3 pairs of gloves all over £100 (summer, waterproof and a accidentally bought pair of Knox Zeros in the wrong size!), as with bex's question, it's whether the £80 is worth more?

This time it comes down to I need gloves ( as they have a hole in them) I know what I'd like, whether I can afford them is a different matter. Obviously I can use my winter gloves for a while, so can try and save. Incidentally I bought the other gloves when I was in a much better financial situation.

If money was no object then I would get the best, but sadly for me, it is one. I always go for the best I can afford, £100 is affordable, £180 is a stretch, but having said that since my terrible experience with A*, I will give the Held's a go. I'd rather pay more and have something last longer.

Yes, I know that had I not been a fool and bought the wrong Knox gloves I would be able to get the Held's. Hindsight (like my drilling the air box foray).

I shall report when I get a chance.

Anyone want a pair of XL Knox Zeros in vgc???;)

[pompone]

A more expensive bit of kit isn't always a guarantee of a better product. I think we're onto something here where gloves need the same testing we get with helmets. I bought a pair of top of the range alpinestar before and they barely lasted a season before the palm suede started to rip up. However in this instance they worked really well.

[bex]

Interesting link Rob, thanks.

Keeping hands tucked in isn't really an option, or at least not one I think you can make consciously when you high side at any decent speed. By the time my mind has registered the thought that I'm in the air and crashing, I've already smacked the floor and commenced the tarmac / sky / tarmac / sky rigmarole. It happens too fast, at least in my experience. Its more a case of damage control as much as possible.

Learning from crashes and trying to avoid it, yes, hopefully.

I guess it is strange that there aren't testing standards as you say Max, I suppose hand injuries compared to head / spine etc are minor. Still, minimising the damage would be nice.

I agree you don't necessarily get a better glove for money, I guess that was my question really, but not many of us are using them to comment. Sometimes you get what you pay for, sometimes you don't.

If you see what Bex's hands look like, you might settle for a couple of hundred quid quite quickly.

Dunno what you mean Rob? ;-) Ah yes, its only March and I have Frankenstein hands. Biking season isn't even here yet!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/hand1-1.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/hand1-1.jpg.html) http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/hand3-1.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/hand3-1.jpg.html) http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/hand2-1.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/hand2-1.jpg.html)

(sorry)

[Black Bob]

Whether I can justify £180 on gloves....

That's only £90 per hand. Or the same as a set of tyres that don't even last as long as gloves. I think once you try earning a living (or just living) with only one hand you will quickly realise how cheap that actually is... as long as they work of course.


p.s. Bex - that's gruesome. Stop it.

[bex]

I said sorry, jeez.

;-)

[J.P]

Biking can be dangerous if you fall off.

[Flip]

There are some odd theories around club racing paddocks with not a lot of middle ground from what I have seen.

With helmets for example here are plenty of racers I know that wear the cheaper end of the market with the majority favouring Nitro which always seem to get great reviews in the press who will change them frequently because of the relatively low cost. Then of course those at the other end who favour the likes of Arai and Shoei. Odd fact of classic racing- in the sidecar class the passenger can choose to wear an open face if they wish- would you really??!!

Much the same can be said (certainly in the classic paddocks I hang around at) of leathers where there are plenty of people still wearing leathers that were new when their bikes were, right up to others wearing the latest Dainese and Alpinestars kit or made to measure suits.

So I'm sure it stands to reason that the same came be said of boots and gloves.

I've had a pair of RS gloves that I've owned for ages, which at the time I bought them were one of the few that had CE approval, but looking at them now their protection is nowhere as technical as the gloves of recent years (although they fit like err ... a glove and I still love them for the road).

When I started racing I bought a pair of Weise Vortex that come with Kangeroo leather palms and Knox armour and although I have been lucky enough not to test them so far (not going fast enough probably) they do have great 'feel' and appear well made and are very comfortable so am not constantly reminded of them when concentrating on keeping off the grass.

http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/69442

http://www.sport-pics.co.uk/2012_Season/crmc/2lydsat/02/2cla0193.htm

[Wildfire]

I really rate the Knox SPS. I had a low speed off in a pair of gloves with them fitted, I slid. My next pair didn't have it and they grabbed and shredded.

[gary tompkins]

I don't think many gloves will save you from broken bones if you hit the tarmac hard. Most are designed to stop injury from sliding. I'm shopping for track day spec gloves at the moment, and was considering the Alpinestars SP8 but not made my mind up. I've used Alpinestars gloves on the road for many years. I find they are hard wearing, break in quickly and fit me well.

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/images/InitialSet/alpinestars_stella_sp8_gloves_black_detail_1_600.j pg

[jarv]

There IS a CE standard for gloves.
I can't remember the details.
Gloves ARE coming through with these CE markings.


quote: EN 13594:2002 – Protective gloves for motorcyclists

EN 13594:2002 is a standard which includes tests from both EN 388 and EN 420, in addition to other specialist requirements (specifically impact, abrasion resistance and seam strength), developed originally for the assessment of motorcyclists clothing.

A key consideration has to be good close and comfortable fit.
Something that you can't check when buying on line.

[Wildfire]

I believe the Knox Handroid is now CE rated.

[Rowly]

I'm really impressed by the quality of Racer gloves of Austria. I have their Stratos gloves for daily use and they are the best gloves I've ever had. Goretex waterproof and the sense of touch is great.

[turbohobbit]

I'm really impressed by the quality of Racer gloves of Austria. I have their Stratos gloves for daily use and they are the best gloves I've ever had. Goretex waterproof and the sense of touch is great.

I'm not. I've had one pair and they split at the palms within a year. My friend has had two pairs (the second a replacement pair for the first) and the same has happened. Racers may be comfy, but the quality is gash.

IMHO.

[Rowly]

I'm not. I've had one pair and they split at the palms within a year. My friend has had two pairs (the second a replacement pair for the first) and the same has happened. Racers may be comfy, but the quality is gash.

Oh, I will look out for that. Was it the leather or the stitching?

[Saint aka ML]

I always use this type of gloves in summer. I choose comfort first.

http://www.ghostbikes.com/products/Off-Road-Gear-Motocross-Gloves/4251-alpinestars-atlas-motocross-gloves.html

I have few different brands from full leather Buffalo (good fit and last quite long 2y old now), those exact Alpinestars as linked above,

Currently looking to buy those:
http://www.ghostbikes.com/products/On-Road-Gear-Motorcycle-Gloves-All-Motorbike-Gloves/9423-ixon-rs-flip-hp-ce-approved-motorcycle-gloves.html#descriptiontab

and another full leather set to replace buffalos but that is hard as most endup being perforated which I do not need as they are to be for those 8 to 15C days.
Sometihng like that but CE approved from alpinestar or rev-it. Looking at gloves I had in past I will say price does not reflect quality :(

http://www.ghostbikes.com/products/On-Road-Gear-Motorcycle-Gloves/3703-weise-street-fight-motorcycle-gloves.html

[steeevvvooo]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/hand1-1.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/hand1-1.jpg.html)


I just spotted the arrow showing you to keep your hand pointing up :mand:

Maybe you need to paint a massive arrow on the tank :running:

http://www.brenelllabels.co.uk/images/ww/UP.gif

[Darren69]

I think its Buffalo Storm that I've got. Although they are a winter glove I've used them all year round. They were bought for me as a xmas present one year about 5 years ago, when I used to ride all year round and they are the best gloves I've ever had and I still use them. Would have another pair and they don't cost the earth. I may buy their summer glove for the warmer weather this year.

[jonzi]

Poor little Bex, I am sure she appreciates all the glove suggestions but she mainly crashes on track so the winter gloves with gortex and the like won't be very good for her.

Get some full metal pro's and don't crash.

And if you do at least you will look like Rossi.

[Wildfire]

Held Titan

US site, but very descriptive:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/held-titan-race-gloves

I'll be going for the Phantom 2's (one step down from the full track glove) as soon as I can afford to and the weather warms up.