m900 project

[perkles]

rather than ask lots of silly questions on lots of threads I thought I would post my project here.
Heres the old girl waiting for some tlc.
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/526534_10151997976569305_596845666_n.jpg
im doing the paint 1st and got the tank and rear cowl rubbed down and primered
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1236689_10152007950644305_1888970497_n.jpg
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1235263_10152007951069305_1182345880_n.jpg
basecoat will go on tonight now ive decided on a colour :)

[Dirty]

Gotta love a project thread! :) What's the plans?

Think you got a bit of rubbing down to do:mand:

[perkles]

rubbing down was done on Sunday before sunday roast :)
mainly cosmetics at the moment and it will get some new plugs/lead, oil/filter and new boots for the new year

[perkles]

basecoat is on ,italian or maybe a chequer stripe ? to go on next
http://www.tankslap.co.uk/cache/embed_images/d99/549/2fb/f17/bd2/11a/5e9/c23/e9e/ff4/b7_600x480.jpg
http://www.tankslap.co.uk/cache/embed_images/a52/1db/bcb/058/8c5/c4c/c5b/ce6/461/710/0f_600x480.jpg

[perkles]

paints done
http://www.tankslap.co.uk/cache/embed_images/8a9/073/676/ae4/da1/838/61e/8eb/6f6/ed8/67_600x480.jpg
http://www.tankslap.co.uk/cache/embed_images/5d5/d75/1bf/26b/57c/5c9/c89/f29/e9d/67d/81_600x480.jpg

[Grumpy]

Nice paint job.

[Dirty]

^ yeah what he said, very impressive!

[Mr Gazza]

Very tasty Perkles.

i like the Ducati tank decals, where did you get them?.

I sourced some a little while ago and now the site has closed down..Doh..! Should have bought them sooner.

[crust]

:thumbsup:

Nice one

[perkles]

Very tasty Perkles.

i like the Ducati tank decals, where did you get them?.

I sourced some a little while ago and now the site has closed down..Doh..! Should have bought them sooner.
thanks all
i got them of fleabay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310183531244?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260883672369?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

question will a 916 front mudgaurd fit my bike ?

[Dirty]

916 front mudguard on a monster is the choice of champions, yes it will

[steeevvvooo]

Subscribing. Love these threads, especially when people know what they are doing... And looking at the photos so far you certainly know more that I do!! :)

[Dirty]

Subscribing. Love these threads, especially when people know what they are doing... And looking at the photos so far you certainly know more that I do!! :)

Definitely not subscribing to my thread then eh :biggrin:

[Mr Gazza]

Thanks for the heads up with the Decals Perkles.

Regarding the 916 mudguard... I think it could involve a bit of fannying with the mounts, as yours has the earlier forks with two bolts on each leg fairly high up.
The 916 (and for that matter, my 900Sie) has no bolt holes on the leg, so the mudguard uses two plastic coated metal bands which wrap round the lower fork leg in two grooves.

Maybe the bands would grip your forks? but also maybe your brackets may foul the guard?
I am sure an SS guard would fit your forks, and I just happen to have one of those going spare...

I am sure someone on here knows how to fit a 916 gaurd to the earlier forks though..?...Alloy dropper bracket perhaps?

[Dirty]

I defer to Gazza. There is good reason Stevooo doesn't read my threads :)

Incidentally I recently upgraded my 916 mudguard and the new one didn't come with new plastic coated bands, I had to reuse the old ones.

[Mr Gazza]

Perkles

I dug my old SS 'guard out and also had a look at some pictures of 916 'guards.

The two types do not look all that different to me.?

The difference is in the mounting bolt holes. I hope you can see what is going on with the bolt holes in the picture of the SS 'guard on top of my 916 type forks.

The SS 'guard will go straight onto your forks with no messing where as you will have to jig somthing up to make one fit from a 916.

My 'guard is a bit scruffy now but some of that blue paint of yours will transform it.
Is it derived from the blue on the early 900SS..?

PM me if you are interested.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2lysfq.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2w6zcx2.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/5k1u1u.jpg
The nasty looking split is just a crack in the paint, lifting and not a split in the 'guard.

[perkles]

hi gazza thanks for the info,i really want a carbon front gaurd and hugger

[Dukedesmo]

I don't know the difference between Monster year/model forks but I have 916 forks (albeit with radial mounts but the mudguard fitting is compatible) on my Monster and, obviously, a 916 mudguard fits fine but so does a Monster mudguard - and an 1198 mudguard for that matter.

[gary tompkins]

Nice work on the overhaul so far

[Mr Gazza]

No worries Perkles....Shame you didn't ask 15 years ago...

I had a Carbon mudguard, same shape as the red SS one..There should be one out there somewhere.

Duke, There are basicaly two blade shapes, Monster and sports. But whatever style the blade is, it still needs the specific bolt pattern to fit the desired fork type...Either high or low bolt holes.

[pompone]

You can make up a bracket to fit. I have a later mudguard on an early fork. Is matter of making a plate with 3 holes.

[Darren69]

The carbon guard like Gazzas look real trick with the top part painted and the side left carbon. Mine is painted like that and with a corse stripe over it to match the tank and seat.

[perkles]

The carbon guard like Gazzas look real trick with the top part painted and the side left carbon. Mine is painted like that and with a corse stripe over it to match the tank and seat.
any photos darren ?

[Dukedesmo]

Duke, There are basicaly two blade shapes, Monster and sports. But whatever style the blade is, it still needs the specific bolt pattern to fit the desired fork type...Either high or low bolt holes.

OK so, I presume that the bolt pattern on my Monster mudguard is the later version? seeing that it is the same as both a 916 and an 1198.

Lucky if so because I bought the mudguard online from Italy and it never occurred to me that it might be the wrong part...

[Darren69]

This one doesn't show it properly because the colour is very subtle with the carbon, but I'll post some better ones when I findmy camera lead.

http://s6.postimg.org/6i21dbhdt/168.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/fpu9u0ofx/full/)
screen capture (http://postimage.org/app.php)

[Mr Gazza]

Looks very nice Darren...

...Funnily enough I had been planning to do just that to my front blade, but in red rather than black.
Perkles has got me thinking about chequers rather than the stripe now though..

[BeePee]

How much would a fair offer be for a 1998 M900, 29000 with very limited history and in need of some tlc.
It has been laid up for a while and brought out this year, new tyres and a service done, the guy only had a loan of it and has now bought a 999s.
I have the chance of it but don't know what to offer.

[Albie]

You can make up a bracket to fit. I have a later mudguard on an early fork. Is matter of making a plate with 3 holes.

I did one on my 97 monster. Its really easy with a piece of 3mm ally plate about 12mm wide and a length to suit holes. Basically you mount it in the holes and tap 2 others to suit. And it sits behind out of site.

[pompone]

I did one on my 97 monster. Its really easy with a piece of 3mm ally plate about 12mm wide and a length to suit holes. Basically you mount it in the holes and tap 2 others to suit. And it sits behind out of site.
I didn't even tap mine, only one needs nut and bolt.

[pompone]

How much would a fair offer be for a 1998 M900, 29000 with very limited history and in need of some tlc.
It has been laid up for a while and brought out this year, new tyres and a service done, the guy only had a loan of it and has now bought a 999s.
I have the chance of it but don't know what to offer.
Hard to say without even a picture.Depends what TLC means, extras, what "service" means and what your plans are with it. 1700 quid at a guess..

[BeePee]

Hard to say without even a picture.Depends what TLC means, extras, what "service" means and what your plans are with it. 1700 quid at a guess..

Surely thats good order with no issues etc ? How much does a good one go for ?

[Darren69]

Here's a better close up/

http://s6.postimg.org/4l5g7cs75/005.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/bblxgsfct/full/)
print screen windows xp (http://postimage.org/app.php)

[pompone]

Surely thats good order with no issues etc ? How much does a good one go for ?

Couple of grands

[BeePee]

Just found out a bit more, sorry for the thread hijack mate but I thought it was relevant here.
1996 last service done at 12,000 and now done 27,000 !
Needs paintwork, tank, new rear tea tray, new rear shock, wheels put back to standard colour and probably a total strip down to redo the frame etc.
He wants £1000, I'm thinking closer to £500 ?
Good points, totally unmolested standard and no mods whatsoever

[perkles]

question
ive just bought a plug lead set from magnecor and the coil ends have no connector ?
how do they terminate at the coil end on a m900 ?

[DrD]

I fitted NGK Racing one pieces (no separate HT cap); they screw into the HT coils.

[perkles]

I fitted NGK Racing one pieces (no separate HT cap); they screw into the HT coils.

hi dr
when you say screw in you mean the bare ends ?

[Mr Gazza]

If you have a peek down the hole that the HT lead goes in you may see what looks like the point of a little brass woodscrew.
The core of the lead just screws straight onto that...It is possible to screw onto the insulation and make a dry connection.

I got my Ducati decals like yours today, and I wondered if you laquered over yours straight away... They say to leave them a week and wipe them over with soapy water, but I like to get that laquer on a bit sooner than that?

[perkles]

Thanks Gaz I suppose the coils connections are a pig to get at.I fit and lacquer over loads of transfers straight away just make sure you apply a bit of heat with a hairdryer after and push any air bubbles out
heres how the old girl is starting to take shape
http://www.tankslap.co.uk/cache/embed_images/a62/6b2/cc5/85b/190/49f/a1a/407/0fb/85b/a4_600x480.jpg
http://www.tankslap.co.uk/addon.php?33,module=embed_images,url=https%3A%2F%2 Fscontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F1390668_10152050147059305_304252071_n.jpg

[Mr Gazza]

Thanks Perkles..I am more familliar with the waterslide type decals for my model aircraft which I design and print myself.

She's really starting to look something special now me laddio....Bit jealous of your straight bars, I can't fit them on mine without huge risers, because of the adjusters on my forks.

Are you going to paint the wheels as well?

[utopia]

Paint looks rather nice.
Simple but very effective ...just like the bike.

[Dirty]

Yes, looking very nice. I like the straight bars too. Hmmm, straight bars or clip ons?

[Cobra88]

Lovely job on the paint :)

[perkles]

since ive drained the tank and refitted it i cant get the old girl going
batteries a bit flat but she wont fire at all,should i try a cold start spray down the carbs ?

[DrD]

Have you switched the fuel line (under the tank) back on - I made that mistake about 7 years ago!
Is fuel getting to the fuel pump?
Are the plugs getting damp with fuel?
Have you got sparks?
If yes to all of these, then it might be like mine after the last rebuild - a bit of cold start got it going.
You know if you put too much in as the exhaust headers will start glowing RED!

[perkles]

hi dr
there is fuel coming out of the line from the filter,ive never owned a carbed bike
but i take it i use full choke with no throttle to start from cold ?

[pompone]

Yes to the above, don't use a jumps start pack or you may fry the modules in the process..

[perkles]

fed up now i want to ride the bugger not look at it :)

[pompone]

Just found out a bit more, sorry for the thread hijack mate but I thought it was relevant here.
1996 last service done at 12,000 and now done 27,000 !
Needs paintwork, tank, new rear tea tray, new rear shock, wheels put back to standard colour and probably a total strip down to redo the frame etc.
He wants £1000, I'm thinking closer to £500 ?
Good points, totally unmolested standard and no mods whatsoever

Which would bring the total to at least a couple of grands :rolleyes: if a)all goes to plan, which normally doesn't and b) you wanted to do it properly, . Service alone even if you were to do it all yourself you're talking three hundred quid plus.

[pompone]

fed up now i want to ride the bugger not look at it :)

I know the feelings. What are the symptoms of non starting? DrD list is the very basic (and accurate) you should look at. Fuel and spark to start with..

[BeePee]

Which would bring the total to at least a couple of grands :rolleyes: if a)all goes to plan, which normally doesn't and b) you wanted to do it properly, . Service alone even if you were to do it all yourself you're talking three hundred quid plus.
Thanks mate, so 2grand over a number of years to end up with a mint original would be good then ? Probably by the time I finished it my son would ride it, that's the plan anyway.
Time for some negotiations I think.........

[perkles]

finally shes going again pheww,will get some miles on it at the weekend :)

[perkles]

got some wet miles in at the weekend :)
can sombody tell me what the standard gearing is on the m900 and how many teeth to go up on the back for a bit more ooomph ?

[Flip]

The standard sprocket sizes for the 2v 900 Monster are 15/39 (the 900SS is 15/37 due to different primary ratios).

On my '97 900 I went up two teeth on the rear which makes sixth gear actually usable below 90mph and more importantly prevents the 'in between gears' feeling when riding around town and in slow traffic.

If you want to play around with gear ratios here's quite a good tool although it only lists the 900 from 1999- but it's the same:

http://www.gearingcommander.com/

[perkles]

cheers flip ,6 th does seem very tall

[Flip]

As said many times on here, Ducati's tend to be massively over geared (as are most bikes) to allow them to pass the Euro drive by noise emission tests, which I presume has got tighter over the years but as the bike's performance has increased is perhaps not so noticeable.

I've run the lower gearing for years now but I am pretty sure I remember actually getting better fuel economy from the bike after I changed it, even with enthusiastic use of the added torque effect of lower gearing. All down to the fact that fifth and sixth gears become more usable when cruising.

[perkles]

went for a great blast today,its running a bit rich
where can i buy a dynojet kit ,cant see them on fleabay

[gary tompkins]

Give PDQ a call - they are a dynojet stockist

http://pdq1.com/result.php?CatID=4430&MakeID=7

I'm also running 15/41 (M750) gearing - much better than stock ratio on 900. Got a spare 41T rear sprocket here if you fancy giving it a try, but yould need and extra few links on the chain if you do. Stock length chain would be too short.

[perkles]

Give PDQ a call - they are a dynojet stockist

http://pdq1.com/result.php?CatID=4430&MakeID=7

I'm also running 15/41 (M750) gearing - much better than stock ratio on 900. Got a spare 41T rear sprocket here if you fancy giving it a try, but yould need and extra few links on the chain if you do. Stock length chain would be too short.

cheeers Gary,i will call them
i bought a renthal rear off fleabay but didnt think id need more chain links !

[Flip]

Talk to either Emma Wheeler or Martin Sadler at PDQ both great people!!

As for a longer chain- I am sure I didn't order a longer one when I replaced mine but I can look out the receipt if you want me to double check?

[perkles]

Talk to either Emma Wheeler or Martin Sadler at PDQ both great people!!

As for a longer chain- I am sure I didn't order a longer one when I replaced mine but I can look out the receipt if you want me to double check?that would be great thanks :)

[Darren69]

If you want a K&N to go with your Dynojet I have one here which should fit, don't know if the airbox lid is the same though:-

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=48207

[perkles]

thanks darren but it already has one
anybody know where i can buy the original side panel transfers ?

[DrD]

Not sure but you want: OEM DUCATI M900 DECAL TRANSFER STICKER 43610141A

[perkles]

thanks DrD
this is how she looks now,im saving up for some rearsets
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1073064_10152090091909305_478899777_o.jpg

[Cobra88]

That looks gorgeous mate

[Dirty]

Oh she is very pretty!

[Mr Gazza]

Yup...I definatly approve of that...well done Perkles.

Are you going to do anything with the wheels colour wize or are you happy with black?

If you can't buy any original transfers for the side panels, I might be able to design and print something close, onto clear waterslide decal paper.

Unfortunatly I can't do white on clear, nor Gold or Silver, but matching the blue on your tank might be a possibility....Cost would be approx 50p..:D

[Darren69]

Yep, very nice bike. What's going on with your clutch though dude, it seems the springs are nearly halfway out? Or is that some clutch mod that I don't know about? I seem to recall the standard setup has about half that amount of spring standing proud of the plate?

[perkles]

Yep, very nice bike. What's going on with your clutch though dude, it seems the springs are nearly halfway out? Or is that some clutch mod that I don't know about? I seem to recall the standard setup has about half that amount of spring standing proud of the plate?

I don't know they are aftermarket, it does change gear smoother now it only had 4 springs fitted before :)

[perkles]

Yup...I definatly approve of that...well done Perkles.

Are you going to do anything with the wheels colour wize or are you happy with black?

If you can't buy any original transfers for the side panels, I might be able to design and print something close, onto clear waterslide decal paper.

Unfortunatly I can't do white on clear, nor Gold or Silver, but matching the blue on your tank might be a possibility....Cost would be approx 50p..:D

Thanks for the offer hazard
I think on staying with black wheels, I do want some restarts as I keep scraping the pegs

[MerlinPV12]

You've done a cracking job on the bike, the blue looks fantastic. Hopefully get to see it up close at one of the meets.

[perkles]

going up two on the rear sprocket is a nice mod,it feels a bit more sprightly now
good ride this morning ,sunny but windy

[Mr Gazza]

Just out of interest Perkles, did you manage to squeeze a 102 link chain over the new sprocket, or did you get another chain?

[perkles]

Just out of interest Perkles, did you manage to squeeze a 102 link chain over the new sprocket, or did you get another chain?

chain went over it fine but the wheel did have to move forward a lot
ive always regeared my bikes its a cheap performance upgrade :biggrin:

[perkles]

Went for a nice ride yesterday
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/894881_10152236164709305_492330184_o.jpg

[gary tompkins]

Great photo

Blue isn't a common colour for monsters but I really like that

[Mr Gazza]

Yup....very good photo. Background looking grim and bike looking fantastic....:D

[pompone]

Went for a nice ride yesterday


Is that a bit of Adobe finest going on there? ;) Nice bike BTW..

[perkles]

Is that a bit of Adobe finest going on there? ;) Nice bike BTW..
Nope straight from a Nikon :)

[Cobra88]

Lovely perkles :)

[Albie]

Shame it was too late for a calendar pic

[Dirty]

Yes, lovely Perkles, :)

[pepeducat]

A really nice bike :thumbsup:

[perkles]

Hi guys I've took the clip ons off my bike and gone back to the rental straight bars and decided to change the clutch and brake lines while I'm at it
I can't get the clutch to work, I've pumped a load of fluid through it but nothing.Any tips ?
the brakes bled fine

[slob]

Use a syringe or vacuum pump of some sort to pull the fluid through. If there's enough air in the system (more that the master cylinder can shift in one stroke) it can be incredibly difficult to get the bleeding process started. I would definitely try putting a bungee round the lever overnight, which should let any air rise to the top of the system, this may allow you to bleed it in the morning if you're lucky.

[perkles]

Cheers slob I've taped the lever up for tonight
Can't wait to get out on it for a blast :)

[Capo]

I would definitely try putting a bungee round the lever overnight, which should let any air rise to the top of the system, this may allow you to bleed it in the morning if you're lucky.

Once again it see this.
With the lever pulled, the system is sealed from the reservoir, no way for any air to escape, it may get dissolved and will come out of solution as soon as the pressure on the lever is removed and the piston retracts, note that if air is dissolved it will do so throughout the fluid and not just the bit at the top.

[Dirty]

Once again it see this.
With the lever pulled, the system is sealed from the reservoir, no way for any air to escape, it may get dissolved and will come out of solution as soon as the pressure on the lever is removed and the piston retracts, note that if air is dissolved it will do so throughout the fluid and not just the bit at the top.


It does work though, I can attest to that. And it seems to be a well known trick. I wonder how?

[Darren69]

Another trick is to bleed from the master cylinder banjo bolt, fitting one with a bleed nipple would make this a bit easier.

If air is trapped at the top you the master cylinder won't be able to push it out all the way to the bottom.

I've seen some later Brembo masters fitted with a bleed nipple presumably for this purpose?

[utopia]

Once again it see this.
With the lever pulled, the system is sealed from the reservoir, no way for any air to escape, it may get dissolved and will come out of solution as soon as the pressure on the lever is removed and the piston retracts, note that if air is dissolved it will do so throughout the fluid and not just the bit at the top.


I don't know whether the air could go into solution in the brake fluid at higher pressure or not, but I have experienced similar effects in water (due to heat and/or pressure) in a previous employment testing and developing valves.
But assuming that it could, then could it be that the air is then free to mix throughout the entire fluid in the system, rather than being trapped in little nooks and crannies, high spots etc.......?
If so, on releasing the pressure, some of this dissolved air will now reappear in places where its easier to bleed out. ........???
Just a thought.
Then again, although it is claimed to work, I've never really needed to use it much myself so I couldn't say. But it is a widely held claim.
Personally, I might be inclined to remove the clutch slave cylinder from the cases and hold it higher than the master cyl, so the air can rise to the top more easily, then bleed it in that position. Careful with that lovely new paint though.

[perkles]

I still can't get the bugger bled,that's a good idea utopia I will try it tomorrow

[Mr Gazza]

It always struck me as the obvious thing to do...taking the slave off and raising it up. same applies to the rear brake caliper.

Be aware that you can shoot the piston out though. Best to put a cramp over the whole lot with some wood or something as a cushion....Or in the case of the brake, a bit of ply or summat in between the pads....:mand:

[perkles]

Taking the slave off and holding it up worked ,a big blob of air came out and and now I have a clutch :)
Need to change my square tyres next,putting bt016s on

[gary tompkins]

Another trick is to bleed from the master cylinder banjo bolt, fitting one with a bleed nipple would make this a bit easier.

If air is trapped at the top you the master cylinder won't be able to push it out all the way to the bottom.

I've seen some later Brembo masters fitted with a bleed nipple presumably for this purpose?


They have top bleed nipple on brake side but not clutch master cylinder

[Goofle]

Syringe (correct spelling?) full of clean fluid onto the nipple at the bottom. Fill system from the bottom up, it will prove full when you start filling the clutch res'. Don't squeeze the lever while you do this as you'll block the hole, and take care as it will probably squirt out quite keenly and cover some distance when the line is full. Wlonce the line is full then bleed from the nipple as normal.
It's a tad faffy but works well.

[perkles]

hello nice people,is the front wheel spindle a 14mm a/f key ? Ive left my manual at home and want to buy one today

[slob]

I bough an oil drainplug wrench which does 14 & 17 just hold it in a socket

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/LASER-1575-OIL-SUMP-DRAIN-PLUG-KEY-14-17mm-HEX-BMW-FORD-LANCIA-MERCEDES-VW-/00/s/OTYwWDEyODA=/z/n5IAAOxydkZRlijo/$(KGrHqR,!l!FFyUWhZObBRlijnNHgQ~~60_12.JPG

[perkles]

Can anybody tell me the oil cooler fittings sizes please ? I need to change the fittings and pipes

[perkles]

anybody , i would like to order some today ?

[Dirty]

Some people were mentioning it on a thread a few weeks back but sodded if I can find it now. I know Slob chipped in and perhaps DrD as well? Don't think the thread was about the cooler though, was a side convo but I'm not sure. I'll have another look later

[perkles]

Some people were mentioning it on a thread a few weeks back but sodded if I can find it now. I know Slob chipped in and perhaps DrD as well? Don't think the thread was about the cooler though, was a side convo but I'm not sure. I'll have another look later
Ta
Update I put a Dyno jet kit in this week and wow what a bloody difference it's really smooth now no flat spot and goes like stink :yoparty:

[Dirty]

Aha, found it, but not sure if it will be any help as it's for the 1000ie, don't know if the 900 is the same, sorry http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=48630&highlight=oil+pipe

[slob]

Pretty sure you want M14x1.25,
I'll check the receipt.

[perkles]

rode to work this morning and found a big oil leak coming out of my rear cylinder,Ive just changed the oil but dont know why that would make any difference.
How big a job is it to change the rear cylinder gasket ?
ok just done a search its the base gasket or a buggered o ring ?

[perkles]

Bit of an update,I changed the o rings and base gasket as the leak got worse.Also one of the cylinder oil pipe bolts was cracked and was leaking.Touch wood I'm leak free now :)

[perkles]

ok so my oil leak is fixed and i have another problem.Yesterday i went ofr a good blast ,the bike started spluttering and then stopped,even though the light wasnt on I thought i had run out of juice so i hopped on the back of my mates bike and we put a jerry can of petrol in.It started fine but 2 miles down the road it was spluttering again,i got it to a petrol station and filled it right up.It was fine on the way home except on almost full throtlle it would die like it was running out of petrol.Could this just be crap in the tank or something else ? The new fuel filter looks clear not sure what else to check

[Darren69]

Problem with the vac/pump maybe?

[utopia]

Or a blocked vent in the tank perhaps.

[perkles]

thanks will check both of these tonight,
forgot to add what fun the old m900 is to ride ,after coming from jap sportsbikes i am really surprised at how well it handles :)

[utopia]

I guess the vac lines (and vac fuel tap if you have one) could also be suspect, in addition to the pump itself.

[perkles]

The fuel line from the tank seemed very long and restrictive so I cut it short filled it with super and gave it a two hour Italian tune up.No hint of a splutter so maybe dodgy fuel or a kinked hose..Can't wait for some decent weather I keep getting wet :)

[Mr Gazza]

.... filled it with super and gave it a two hour Italian tune up... :)

That's the spirit....:chuckle::chuckle:

[perkles]

:ukm:That's the spirit....:chuckle::chuckle:
I'm really falling for this bike ,I've only ever owned modern il4s but this twin thing gets under your skin doesn't it

[utopia]

It does....but only really when the cylinders are at 90deg.
My old 750 laverda had the same sort of power characteristics but it would have your fillings out in 50 miles, the vibration was so extreme.
The monster on the other hand, is as smooth as the older inline fours that I'm familiar with.
I think that what I really like is big bangs from big pistons rather than lots of little bangs.
But, for me, only the ducati motor makes that work properly in a twin, and it does so by turning science into magic and design into art.

On the petrol pipe...are you familiar with the rather odd routing which takes the pipe, curving rearward under the frame cross member which supports the tank hinge, and then back forwards again, before heading off sideways to the tap ?
This is to cope with the way the pipe needs to move when the tank is raised and lowered.
Cutting the pipe short may cause issues when you lift the tank, or when you lower it back down again.
The pipe does seem to have a very tight curve in it though....maybe the pipe has weakened with age and collapsed, limiting the flow ?
Or else perhaps been pinched or bent into a restriction as a result of being wrongly routed.....easily done after a tank respray as the position of the fuel filter is a bit vague but quite critical, as I was recently reminded when fitting a new tank myself.
Either way,I'd be inclined to get a new, full length, pukka Ducati replacement pipe.

[perkles]

thanks for the advice utopia,the fuel filter was twisting the pipe as it could move in its bracket so ive cable tied it in place.I will look into changing the shortened pipe

[DrD]

I replaced the gravity fuel filter with a billet inline - held in place with those Ducati Rubber straps
New fuel line (from Auto Factors) and away you go.
Just remember to unlock the rubber straps when lifting the tank.
Of course since I no longer needed the standard bracket that was chopped (waits for M900 chopped outrage!)
Fairly soon I will be moving it to under the tank so out of the way, and considering use of a Quick Release Fuel Line Coupler to make the whole job of removing tank easy

[perkles]

thanks for the advice guys
a quick question how long does a full strip down take if I wanted to powder coat my frame ?

[pooh]

If you take it carefully and make a frame to hold the engine it is possible in a couple of hours.

Ian

[DrD]

thanks for the advice guys
a quick question how long does a full strip down take if I wanted to powder coat my frame ?

I took 9 months and then decided not to powder coat!
But then I have just taken 6 hours (over several evenings) to fit a rear sprocket - because everything on that side of the bike from engine sprocket area to swing arm (etc etc) had to be clean!

[utopia]

Dr.D, you sound like you are as familiar as I am with taking your time to do a proper job. ;)

[perkles]

cheeky ride into work today and testing my new mirror out which works really well https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1625506_10152477449349305_7153974093741326428_n.jp g

[Ian-cm]

That looks fantastic. 900's are appealing to me more and more

[Darren69]

Are those home made exhaust hangers, with RES rearsets?

[perkles]

Are those home made exhaust hangers, with RES rearsets?yes well spotted :freak:

[Dirty]

The silver coloured plate that the rear wheel adjuster bolts through looks like it isn't quite sitting true?

[perkles]

The silver coloured plate that the rear wheel adjuster bolts through looks like it isn't quite sitting true?
its off a 600 im after as et of the oe gold ones but cant find any

[DrD]

You could try here: http://www.mvs-performance.de/Ducati-851-888-Monster-900-1000-S4-ST4s-Satz-Aluschwinge-Endkappen

[crust]

Make sure that after you've tightened the rear wheel nuts you give the adjuster bolts another tighten.

They have been known to come loose, rotate and the wheel hub has a good chew on them.

I've drilled and lock wired mine to the swinging arm after finding them loose after a good ride.

[Dirty]

You could try here: http://www.mvs-performance.de/Ducati-851-888-Monster-900-1000-S4-ST4s-Satz-Aluschwinge-Endkappen

Ooh shiny!!! I hate you DrD :)

[DrD]

Ooh shiny!!! I hate you DrD :)

And if you search their CNC by bike parts you will find all sorts for various monsters!
Including alternatives to the Corsair Endplates: http://www.mvs-performance.de/Kettenspannerblenden-2Armschwinge-Monster-Alu-17mm :chuckle:

[Dirty]

And if you search their CNC by bike parts you will find all sorts for various monsters!
Including alternatives to the Corsair Endplates: http://www.mvs-performance.de/Kettenspannerblenden-2Armschwinge-Monster-Alu-17mm :chuckle:

Yes I've seen their adjuster plates on ebay, bloody expensive, can't believe the end plates cost even more!

[perkles]

Must resist the temptation :)