What is......?

[Hellboydce]

In laymans terms, a slipper clutch and how would it benefit me on my 696? God bless

[JuZ]

A slipper clutch is a clutch that slips on downchanges to prevent rear wheel lock up.

[Albie]

Or something else possibly to go wrong with ya bike lol S2r have them I believe

[Hellboydce]

Can you get em for 696's or are the only for bikes with a 'dry' clutch?

[neilo]

My evo has a wet slipper clutch.

[dunlop0_1]

To be honest IMO it would be money wasted on a road bike with less than 80 bhp. When they work they work well and I have one on the 996 race bike. However, I would suggest that if you need one on the road due to constant rear wheel lock up then you need to adjust/improve your riding style.

If I was braking so hard on the road that the rear wheel locked up I would be more concerned about what level of grip I was getting from the front tyre.

On the DD bike (620) on down shifts I just pulled the clutch in slightly to create my own slipper clutch, sort of. :idea:

[Pomp1]

I think 696 have some sort ofsemi- slipper clutch anyway

[Hellboydce]

Cheers guys, think I was just looking to spend some money for the sake of it

[Scott1]

I'm fairly sure the 696 has pretty much the same slipper clutch as the S2r, I think its called an Adler torque clutch.

[turbohobbit]

I've got a '12 696 and I seem to recall the guy in the dealer saying it has a west slipper clutch.

[Hellboydce]

or maybe i just liked the look of a red one

[Gilps]

The clutch on the S2R is indeed a form of slipper clutch. It was fitted to later 620s too. It's called the APTC clutch. Not sure what other models it found its way on to though.

[PDS]

I have owned many bikes and only one came with a slipper clutch as standard ZXR 750 H2 yes it was great to be going flat out and then stamping through the gears with no lock up of the rear wheel, but you have to be going some to really notice the benefit.

like many things in life if you have the funds and you want why not :)

although, I would personally throw spare cash at getting the suspension set up to my personal weight and road riding style

[Black Bob]

although, I would personally throw spare cash at getting the suspension set up to my personal weight and road riding style

I was going to say exactly the same thing. Absolutely the best place to throw money.

Apart from drugs and hookers, obviously.

[PDS]

Apart from drugs and hookers, obviously.

without a doubt, any other suggestion would be foolish.........its a bank holiday weekend coke and hookers start here!

[turbohobbit]

So let me just get this straight... Assuming I have a slipper clutch as standard on my 696+, I could be going along at speed, stamp on the gear pedal and change down without touching the clutch? Is that right?

[Murray Mint]

No not stamp, but with a little pull of the clutch you could knock it down a couple of gears all ready and settled for corner entry. It's just one less thing to think about mid corner faffing around with gear changes and it helps keep the bike settled.

[SunEye]

The difference I found between the M1100 with no slipper clutch and the M1100evo with a slipper clutch is that the M1100 benefits greatly from blipping the throttle when changing down gears, unless you like locking up the back wheel, which is easy to do unless you let the revs drop far enough (assuming you don't blip the throttle). On the evo you can change down without blipping the throttle at revs which on the M1100 would have locked up the rear. For me I find that handy because I've never got the hang of blipping the throttle, changing down and braking at the same time.

Just because I've got a slipper clutch doesn't mean I don't blip the throttle when changing down, just that I don't have to.

[BigOz]

As mentioned above the 696 uses an APTC clutch which has a slipper action when experiencing back-torque from the rear wheel but also a servo action when the drive is from the motor.
TSS and now Sigma (I believe they get their clutches from TSS) have "proper" slipper clutches for the 696 which use standard plates and 4 1098 springs. The slipper action is meant to be better but as there is no servo action I imagine the clutch lever will get a good bit heavier.

Andy

[Hellboydce]

although, I would personally throw spare cash at getting the suspension set up to my personal weight and road riding style

What would this entail?

[BigOz]

What would this entail?


Find your local suspension specialists, and discuss your needs I like to use MCT in Stowmarket.

I first had them tweak the stock forks and fit an Ohlins shock. The fork tweak involved reducing the rebound damping in the one fork with a cartridge and changing to linear springs of the correct stiffness for me and with the correct preload.


The Ohlins for the rear is not the overpriced Ducati offering but a DU737 direct from Ohlins, again sprung and set correctly for me.

Andy

[slob]

So let me just get this straight... Assuming I have a slipper clutch as standard on my 696+, I could be going along at speed, stamp on the gear pedal and change down without touching the clutch? Is that right?

Not "without touching the clutch" it just prevents the rear locking up when you release it if engine speed and road speed aren't matched when you release it.
I agree with Neil, want it on the track but not on the road.

[PDS]

http://www.maxtonsuspension.co.uk/

in all fairness and being honest their website is poor, but they really do know their business, and they have a very good reputation, I owned a Nitrous Fireblade that had been set up by them for a similar size person as me and it was just a "Fluid" experience