Ducati Only Trackday - Brands Indy - Aug 27th

[slob]

UK Desmo Owners Club Trackday - Ducatis on Track at Brands Hatch!

Brands Hatch is hosting the first official UK Desmo Owners Club trackday, on Tuesday 27th August 2013.

The trackday will be run by MSV Trackdays and hosted by all four Desmo Owners Clubs, the officially
recognised Ducati clubs in the UK. The Clubs have teamed up to provide Ducati owners with the chance
to take their bikes onto the legendary Brands Hatch circuit for the day.

The day will be divided into 4 groups covering novice (first-time) trackday riders, intermediate riders, fast riders and an additional ACU licence group which will be timed. This ensures that everyone will be able to ride in the group they feel most comfortable with and ensure safety for all riders. Each session will be 15 minutes, with a total of seven sessions on the day.

The cost of the day is £135 per rider, but discounts are available to members of the Clubs* and can be booked direct with MSV on 0843 453 3000 or through the website at http://www.msvtrackdays.com/desmo

Spectators are welcome to join the day, and entry is free. The day will also host Club stands, displays
and trade stands. Tyre services and a dyno will also be present to provide support on the day for riders.**

For more details and information on discounts for Club members, contact your club:

UK Monster Owners Club - http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/
Ducati Sporting Club UK - http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/
Ducati Owners Club GB - http://www.docgb.org/
Scottish Ducati Club - http://www.scottishducaticlub.org/


* Discount of 10% available to registered DOC members; cost £121.50 per rider. Send me a PM or email to obtain your personal discount code.

** stands and services to be confirmed

Confirmed Support Services available on the Day

Track-Pro
On-site services include suspension adjustment and maintenance, tyre fitting, brake servicing and pad fitting, and set-up advice. For further information please call Simon Green on 07876637551 or visit www.track-pro.co.uk

[chris yeatman]

Rob, what type motorcycle clothing is needed for this or any other bike track day?

[slob]

As with all UK trackdays:
ACU approved helmet (gold sticker),
gloves,
boots and
two-piece fully zipped together (or one-piece) leathers.
Back protector highly recommended!

[Kato]

Be good to get a large UKMOC presence at this anyone else thinking of going

[Stafford]

Might be up for this.

[Black Bob]

I'd be up for this too. It's been ages.

[jonzi]

I'll probably go

Not sure it will be on a monster though.

[JuZ]

I've never done a track day before, could be quite educational :)

[J.P]

Booked....And please make it a dry day. I've made a promise to my wife after the last trackday outing...:biggrin:

[Black Bob]

Have booked also.

Already getting nervous - not done one for a few years!

[J.P]

That'll make it easy for me to get past you AGAIN then Black Bob. :)

[slob]

Not of he's in the ACU group with Jonzi :-D

...booked

[jonzi]

Not of he's in the ACU group with Jonzi :-D

...booked

I'll be in with the greenies in Novice.

Makes me feel better as I can hopefully get past most of those.

[slob]

Won't make you faster or more competetive though

[Stafford]

Won't make you faster or more competetive though

See you in the Inters Slob, Jonzi look out for Liz :flag:

[BigOz]

I just booked too.

Andy

[MrsC_772]

I'm very tempted - just need to check with work about booking that Tuesday off.

For any other trackday virgins - if you're in two minds, go for it! This will be only my 2nd ever trackday - the first was the UKMOC one at Mallory in 2011, and although I was a bit apprehensive, I had a whale of a time, and wasn't the only one. See the thread at: http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=39813&highlight=trackday&page=39

[Black Bob]

That'll make it easy for me to get past you AGAIN then Black Bob. :)

Oh ****, I'm going in the novice group....

:running:

[MrsC_772]

Joking aside, could the experienced and speedy not book into novices to flatter their egos. There were a couple of guys last time out who were in the novices who kept lapping the rest of us 3 or 4 times in a session. Fortunately words were had at lunchtime and they were in the inters after lunch.

[slob]

Should've put 'em in the fast group!

[Stafford]

Would this work as a wedding present for Heather and Scrapps?

[uksurfer]

whats the beginners group called?

[Thuli]

I'd hazard a guess at 'novice' Martin.

[jonzi]

Inters

Booked

[Albie]

Would this work as a wedding present for Heather and Scrapps?

It would but I really think the then Mrs Munnings would not be pleased...:biggrin::biggrin:

[Albie]

I cannot get the day off but being very very local I will be spending my dinnertime and after work cheering you on.

[uksurfer]

anybody staying local the night before?

[MrsC_772]

Assuming I can get the time off work (office manager away today so couldn't book the days off), I'd plan to stay over near Brands Hatch the night before and the night of the trackday.

[MrsC_772]

I've now booked for the trackday, novice group of course. :)

Any recommendations for (hopefully fairly cheap) local accommodation?

[uksurfer]

If I book, I think the hotel campanile only 10 miles away seems cheap at 29 a night

[Funkatronic]

im booked in

[jonzi]

Paging Musty.

This is where you sign up and do your first track day.

Snowboarding for winter, trackdays for summer.

[Musty]

Paging Musty.

This is where you sign up and do your first track day.

Snowboarding for winter, trackdays for summer.

You paged good sir?

Yes, I'm up for this, seems like the perfect time to unleash myself on a track. I'll put the snowboard away and call up and book the beginners.

[Kato]

Booked......:banana:

[azarms]

OK I'm booking too - please don't all of you rush past me in too much of a hurry - I'm on the baby (696) Monster...

[Flip]

Slob do you know if my little race bike will be welcome- I presume if there's an ACU group there'll be race bikes there?

[slob]

Yes there's an ACU group, I imagine it will be mostly 583/618 DD bikes. The day is 'Ducati only' so you'll be fine.

[Black Bob]

... mostly 583/618 DD bikes...

They sound like fun? Is that like a Ducati-only mini twins or something?

[Flip]

If I do it I will try and have a word to see what group to go in- the little 250 gets a bit out paced on the straight bits on trackdays!!

[gary tompkins]

They sound like fun? Is that like a Ducati-only mini twins or something?

Racing series started by the DSC (Ducati Sporting Club) in 2005, and currently runs 3 classes

1.Class A - 618cc fuel injection based machines
2.Class B - 583cc carburettor based machines
3.Class C - max 997cc based machines


Hottrax video from April at Oulton Park - Fast forward to 26.00 http://www.2wheelstv.com/tv-channel/watch/2013~hottrax~hottrax-motorsport~round-1~full-program

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/desmodue/

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r304/spencerfleet/SDIM2187.jpg

[Wildfire]

Just got back from brands yesterday. realliy want to take the Monster out.... so tempted....

[Black Bob]

Hottrax video from April at Oulton Park - Fast forward to 26.00 http://www.2wheelstv.com/tv-channel/watch/2013~hottrax~hottrax-motorsport~round-1~full-program


Awesome! Thanks GT.

[slob]

Only three weeks to go!

[jonzi]

Only three weeks to go!

And does she live yet?

[Dirty]

Only three weeks to go!

Either I'm rubbish at maths or you need a new calendar mate :)

[Black Bob]

Either I'm rubbish at maths or you need a new calendar mate :)

The two needn't be mutually exclusive. :D

[yusaf1]

I'm up for this, will all ducati's be allowed to run regarless of sound levels?

[slob]

I suspect MSV will run their usual noise limits. I've never had an issue at Brands (had to put baffles in for Snetterton though)

[Kato]

I'm up for this, will all ducati's be allowed to run regarless of sound levels?

Your will be fine mate

[scrapps]

Getting Married on the Monday but don't leave for the honeymoon till Thursday so have a couple of days to kill.
I think if I did go to this Heather would be sorting divorce paper before the honeymoon ?
Cheers for the offer of booking me in for a wedding present Stafford but best safe than sorry :chuckle:

[Black Bob]

Getting Married on the Monday but don't leave for the honeymoon till Thursday so have a couple of days to kill.
I think if I did go to this Heather would be sorting divorce paper before the honeymoon ?
Cheers for the offer of booking me in for a wedding present Stafford but best safe than sorry :chuckle:

My advice as resident marriage guidance guru is simply this...

Start as you mean to go on and do the damn trackday if you want.

I DARE YOU!!!

:D

[Martin696]

Hmmm... Very tempting!! Is there space still? Are textile trousers ok that zip to the jacket or do they HAVE to be leather?

[jonzi]

Hmmm... Very tempting!! Is there space still? Are textile trousers ok that zip to the jacket or do they HAVE to be leather?

They have to be leather and they have to be able zip to a leather jacket 3/4 of the way round your waist usually.

[Flip]

I've had them with the little race bike-

On my last time there I got told that if I brought the bike there again and it was that loud I would be to told to F*** Off and don't come back until it's quieter!!

I even pointed out that it was the same person that tested it previously (still had the pass stickers on it) but he wasn't happy about me saying that either. When out on track people said it wasn't as loud as many of the modern bikes but as the noise tests are done at 5500rpm (it only revs to 8000) on the single it is using a lot of its' maximum revs to be tested. The MSV (& ACU) noise test limits can be found here:

http://www.msvtrackdays.com/bike-testing-noise-limits

However, I am not sure how you know what revs you're testing them at without a rev counter (as is the case on many Monsters) to go by so best be aware of that when you get tested unless of course they have a portable one that takes off from an HT lead in the same way as my Scitsu does on the racer.

The last time I raced the bike was at Snetterton and it was loud then but passed noise tests there (kind of) but all the MSV circuits (amongst others i.e: Mallory Park) are getting stricter as residents complain about noise to their local councils which in turn enforce restrictions on the circuits to comply with.

All being well I will get along to Brands (if there are spaces left) but I'm racing at the Classic Festival at Donington mid August so I can't commit until after then. I also have a new exhaust so it should pass noise tests no problem although Donington is an 'Unsilenced' meeting so I can get checked without worry of exclusion from racing.

If anyone fancies Donny it'll definitely be a good meet with the Ducati Symposium out on track along with many other great bikes from the past plus more than 40 races over the three days (I've got one Friday, two Saturday and one Sunday). More details here:

http://www.donington-park.co.uk/events/2013/08/09/classic-motorcycle-festival/

[slob]

Is your ignition single fire or wasted spark? does the tacho have two settings? if so a canny trackdayer could get it tested at 2750RPM ;-)

The noise restrictions a Donington are hilarious, given the nearest neighbour is one of the UK's busier airports.

[Thuli]

Either I'm rubbish at maths or you need a new calendar mate :)
He needs a new calendar.

Which should make him happy... he's got an extra week to be able to answer 'yes' to this...
And does she live yet?

[Dirty]

I'm rubbish at maths too though :)

[Flip]

Rob, my little race bike has a twin plug conversion and runs a total loss Lucas Rita Ignition powered by a 12v battery to two 6v coils wired in series firing both plugs at the same time.

As for fooling the noise test, it's not really possible as Scitsu tachos are calibrated to whatever engine configuration they are required to meter, are self powered and take their pick up by running a sensor wire along the appropriate number of plug leads (in my case one as it's a single cylinder engine and both plugs fire together).


On the other note, Donington certainly is an odd circuit when it comes to their noise management as you quite rightly say with East Midlands Airport a short distance away which has cargo flights through the night is mental especially if you're staying in a tent in the paddock.

But on the plus side they seem to have a reasonable amount of un-silenced meetings which is just as well for the up coming Classic Festival as anyone who has heard a grid full of open piped Manx Nortons and G50 Matchless's or Yamaha TZ's will know what I mean.

[bex]

Once again, booked it, packed it...

[Liz]

So, from what I can make out, our UKMOC contingency so far (even though not all on Monsters!):
Slob
JP
Black Bob
Stafford
Liz
Big Oz
Jonzi
MrsC_772
Funkatronic
Kato
azarms
bex

Ooh, we need a big garage :ukm:

[gary tompkins]

Pity it's a weekday

Looks like good spectator sport

[bex]

So, from what I can make out, our UKMOC contingency so far (even though not all on Monsters!

(or on Ducatis! :running:)

[Dirty]

So, from what I can make out, our UKMOC contingency so far (even though not all on Monsters!):
Slob
JP
Black Bob
Stafford
Liz
Big Oz
Jonzi
MrsC_772
Funkatronic
Kato
azarms
bex

Ooh, we need a big garage :ukm:

Dirty - Spectator/paddock stand duty

[bex]

So, from what I can make out, our UKMOC contingency so far (even though not all on Monsters!):
Slob
JP
Black Bob
Stafford
Liz
Big Oz
Jonzi
MrsC_772
Funkatronic
Kato
azarms
bex
Dirty - Spectator/paddock stand/bump start green wasp duty

[jonzi]

(or on Ducatis! :running:)

Are you actually allowed to do a Ducati trackday on a non Ducati?

[bex]

It's been opened up to any bikes as of today, it will probably go down to 3 groups, and supposedly there are a lot of spaces to fill.

[rollo22]

So, from what I can make out, our UKMOC contingency so far (even though not all on Monsters!):
Slob
JP
Black Bob
Stafford
Liz
Big Oz
Jonzi
MrsC_772
Funkatronic
Kato
azarms
bex
Dirty - Spectator/paddock stand/bump start green wasp duty
Duncan & Jo in spectator etc etc duty

[Black Bob]

I wonder if the depressingly fast and stylish GT1000 (black) rider will make an appearance.

[gary tompkins]

Slob
JP
Black Bob
Stafford
Liz
Big Oz
Jonzi
MrsC_772
Funkatronic
Kato
azarms
bex
Dirty - Spectator/paddock stand/bump start green wasp duty
Duncan & Jo in spectator etc etc duty
GT - Brolly Dolly

[scrapps]

Slob
JP
Black Bob
Stafford
Liz
Big Oz
Jonzi
MrsC_772
Funkatronic
Kato
azarms
bex
Dirty - Spectator/paddock stand/bump start green wasp duty
Duncan & Jo in spectator etc etc duty
GT - Brolly Dolly
Scrapps - Heather Spectators if can get up and sorted in time after night before.
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[jonzi]

And I will be taking a van to this if any one wants to share, again can get a biggun and possibly fit 3 in.

I'll be leaving from Leyton, but I can come over to West London and get your and yours if you need a lift Bex.

[bex]

Fabulous GT. I always wanted a brolly dolly. You'll look marvelous in green lycra. Might need to top up the fake tan on the face though?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/GTbrollydolly.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/GTbrollydolly.jpg.html)

[bex]

Cheers Dan got it sorted already so I'll just ride down on the Monster on the day presumably.

[J.P]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/GTbrollydolly.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/GTbrollydolly.jpg.html)

A picture is worth a thousand words.

[Shuffy]

Fabulous GT. I always wanted a brolly dolly. You'll look marvelous in green lycra. Might need to top up the fake tan on the face though?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/GTbrollydolly.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/GTbrollydolly.jpg.html)

Oh that's so wrong on so many levels...

[bex]

Oh that's so wrong on so many levels...


Its the white boots isn't it? Everyone says that.

[J.P]

And the white boots clash terribly with the green bike...

[bex]

What would you know, I've seen your 'friday shirts'.

[J.P]

What would you know, I've seen your 'friday shirts'.

I, I, I , I can't think of anything to argue against that statement.

[gary tompkins]

Fabulous GT. I always wanted a brolly dolly. You'll look marvelous in green lycra. Might need to top up the fake tan on the face though?

I'll need a lot more fake tan

http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/andrewsmith1708/Thundersportmankini.jpg

[Black Bob]

I'll need a lot more fake tan

http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/andrewsmith1708/Thundersportmankini.jpg

AH, dammit. I hate it when tea comes out of my nose.

[Thuli]

AH, dammit. I hate it when tea comes out of my nose.

As do I when bile just won't stay where it oughta.

[craigie]

Slob
JP
Black Bob
Stafford
Liz
Big Oz
Jonzi
MrsC_772
Funkatronic
Kato
azarms
bex
Dirty - Spectator/paddock stand/bump start green wasp duty
Duncan & Jo in spectator etc etc duty
GT - Brolly Dolly
Scrapps - Heather Spectators if can get up and sorted in time after night before.
Craigie

[bex]

Only two weeks to go!

[Black Bob]

Now 10 days to go... and my OEM tyres look like they're into their last 500 miles or so... maybe into their last 300 by then. Hard to tell.

Should they perform OK enough to finish off on the track, or would I be better off getting them changed and scrubbing some new ones in there? (Was going to go for some PR3's)

[Dirty]

Will you have more fun on new tyres or old bald ones?

[rollo22]

With old ones about to run out will you have enough to get home? or is bike in a van

[Black Bob]

With old ones about to run out will you have enough to get home? or is bike in a van

It's less than 25 miles to get home.

They're not quite bald yet but not sure how quick these things wear towards the end of life:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1332234/tyredtires.jpg

Plenty rubber on the edge, I'd say, but I'm aware the profile isn't what it once was!

Just wondering if I'd be better of with some new PR3's, or the tail end of something that was arguably more sport focussed.

[Dirty]

Buy a set of slicks at the track then change back into your old boots for the pootle home :)

[slob]

If int's not raining it'll be fine, if it is there's no tread on the edges of those anyway....


what are you saving the last 1cm for?

[bex]

nooooooo, no weather talk!!! ;-)

[RickyX]

Couple of questions about this track day:

- Is it 3 or 4 groups? The opening post of this thread says it's "4 groups, 15 minute sessions" whereas the MSV link says it's "3 groups, 20 minute sessions".
- How do you book and get the discount?
- is it Monsters only or can I bring my 749?

Cheers,

RX

[jonzi]

It's been changed.

They have ditched the ACU group and put those fella's in the fast.

So 3 groups 20 mins each, Novice, inters and fast

Isn't there a code to get the discount? I think you need to call MSV

Bring what you like, it was Ducati only but now it's any thing you want.

[RickyX]

It's been changed.

They have ditched the ACU group and put those fella's in the fast.

So 3 groups 20 mins each, Novice, inters and fast

Isn't there a code to get the discount? I think you need to call MSV

Bring what you like, it was Ducati only but now it's any thing you want.

Thanks for the update, I will make further enquiries with MSV.

R

[Black Bob]

nooooooo, no weather talk!!! ;-)

It's going to be El Scorchio.

[Dirty]

It was el scorchio!

http://s13.postimg.org/e8rdbbvcn/image.jpg

[alan c]

hope you all had a great day !

[rollo22]

It was a great day nice to see you all.

[slob]

What a grand day out!
http://www.thelasturl.net/img/Brands_20130827.jpg

[craigie]

Statutory 'who did the photos' query?

Grand day out, only slightly marred by my own stupidity.......

Nice to see you, to see you. Nice.

[Black Bob]

What a grand day out!
http://www.thelasturl.net/img/Brands_20130827.jpg

Top pic, Rob! Poetry in motion.

Was utterly ace to see everybody, and big thanks to Jo for the tea and sarnies and, of course, the custard creams. :)

And bloody ace of Albie to personally deliver my bolts - thanks dude!

This is just a frickin' awesome club - you're all brilliant.

That is all.

[gary tompkins]

Great to catch up with everyone at Brands today

Got a few photo's that I'll post later

[bex]

Amazing circuit. Thanks all, as usual, brilliant day with the UKMOC.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/DSC_0643_1120-11-1.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/rjbecs/media/DSC_0643_1120-11-1.jpg.html)

[Funkatronic]

Hello everyone

good to see you all, apologies for the lack of conversation from me, did have my hands full for most of the day :mand:

specially big thanks to Jonzi for sorting the van and driving and and to Kato and alan knight their technical assistance after my grass cutting/ploughing expedition :rolleyes:

[steeevvvooo]

Great day and good to see everyone.

This is the first time in three visits to brands that I didn't find the grass so pretty happy, but sore, at the moment.

[Albie]

Top pic, Rob! Poetry in motion.

Was utterly ace to see everybody, and big thanks to Jo for the tea and sarnies and, of course, the custard creams. :)

And bloody ace of Albie to personally deliver my bolts - thanks dude!

This is just a frickin' awesome club - you're all brilliant.

That is all.

No problem chris
Was that ali at clearways off then

[gary tompkins]

Funkatronic went off at Graham Hill bend earlier in the day, but managed to get out later after a few repairs

Don't think he dumped it at clearways as well

[Funkatronic]

just the one off for me :-)

[Kato]

Great company turned a good day into a brilliant day thanks all.....I enjoyed it so much I'm going to do it all again in 2 weeks time but on the GP circuit

[Kato]

Anybody know who the photography company was and if the pics are on line ?????????

[slob]

not online yet
http://www.msvtphotography.com/bike_trackdays_bh.html

[craigie]

not online yet
http://www.msvtphotography.com/bike_trackdays_bh.html

Cheers Rob, they're a bit slow......

[Stafford]

Great day everybody, finally found a little more speed later in the day once I'd found my way round. After my first "sighting lap" in the mist wasn't sure how the day was going to go having not been to Brands before, but really enjoyed it in the end.
Thanks Jo for the cafe and Guy Burton for sorting a seized bleed nipple on Liz's bike.

[Liz]

Yes, a big thanks to Jo for the 'caf', Guy and Stafford for fixing the clutch on the 750, Duncan for being pit crew and a visit from the newly wedded Mr and Mrs Munnings! Great to see everyone and glad all were safe! Another fantastic track day - I loved Brands Hatch :woot:

[Unit 18]

Great day and good to see everyone.

This is the first time in three visits to brands that I didn't find the grass so pretty happy, but sore, at the moment.

It went ok then Steve?
By the way, the van got me back okay. It turned out to be the alternator clutch.

[Stafford]

Anybody know who the photography company was and if the pics are on line ?????????

Got one of you here mate.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q297/stafford23/kato_zpsc204e9fa.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/user/stafford23/media/kato_zpsc204e9fa.jpg.html)

[Kato]

Thanks mate ................

[J.P]

That is very funny Staff. :)

[steeevvvooo]

It went ok then Steve?
By the way, the van got me back okay. It turned out to be the alternator clutch.

yes, thanks! Went as well as the rider would allow it anyway :)

Glad the van got you back too :mand:

[Albie]

Got one of you here mate.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q297/stafford23/kato_zpsc204e9fa.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/user/stafford23/media/kato_zpsc204e9fa.jpg.html)

Umm doing one over GT. Be careful lol

[Flip]

Echoing others it was good to meet a couple of new faces and say hello to some previously met ones, albeit rather briefly as it was too nice a day not to be riding so didn't stay too long and enjoyed the long way home instead.

[Black Bob]

Pics are up chaps and chapesses

Brands Hatch 27th August 2013 (http://www.msvtphotography.com/?Action=_VC&id=135659402&ppwd=94953kfm)