Brake Saga Completed

[mrbryanmarshall]

Done...finally, spacers to correct offset, Goldlines on etc etc...

Went around the block to make sure they worked, a slightly lighter touch on the lever is now required...



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[dam]

Nice pics!

May I ask where you got them disks from?

[mrbryanmarshall]

thanks- got them from the states, from Bellissimoto. DONT EVER USE THEM. Took 4 months to get here (to be fair, suppliers fault, not theirs but still...) but they assureed me they would be a straight bolt on, turns out they weren't. I.e. 320mm not 300, no offset for goldline calipers, which they argued that they would work with...has to get new calipers, 2nd hand 300mm discs while i was waiting as the old ones were shot, custom spacers to mitigate lack of offset etc etc.

very happy with them, but a very very expensive excersise...you can get offset ones - just order from the factory in france.

Bellissimoto refused a refund, was too far gone to open a dispute on paypal and they stopped responding to emails.

[dam]

thanks- got them from the states, from Bellissimoto. DONT EVER USE THEM. Took 4 months to get here (to be fair, suppliers fault, not theirs but still...) but they assureed me they would be a straight bolt on, turns out they weren't. I.e. 320mm not 300, no offset for goldline calipers, which they argued that they would work with...has to get new calipers, 2nd hand 300mm discs while i was waiting as the old ones were shot, custom spacers to mitigate lack of offset etc etc.

very happy with them, but a very very expensive excersise...you can get offset ones - just order from the factory in france.

Bellissimoto refused a refund, was too far gone to open a dispute on paypal and they stopped responding to emails.

Oh dear :thumbsdown:

[Nottsbiker]

I asked them for some parts info on the main USA monster forum end they couldn't be bothered to which means they lost out on business.

[mrbryanmarshall]

they seemed nice, but really just another bunch that has a thinly veiled air of decency that stop caring as soon as your money is in their bank.

[Kato]

Hate to rub salt but you may have done better going to the manufacturer directly, they are just across the channel near Lyon

http://www.beringer-brakes.com/site.php

[damien666]

I ordered a water pump protector/slider from them which arrived quickly. no probs. maybe i was just lucky?

[steeevvvooo]

They look great! :thumbsup:

Shame about the hassle, but they certainly stand out from the crowd.

[mrbryanmarshall]

Hate to rub salt but you may have done better going to the manufacturer directly, they are just across the channel near Lyon

http://www.beringer-brakes.com/site.php

Completely...just wrongly assumed that I was paying someone for advice, service and experties...live and learn I guess. Just another example/reminder not too trust too much and expect some to give a toss when you are paying them to do something...do everything yourself...always better...

[final_edition]

I see there is a distrubuter in Corsa Italianana

http://www.corsaitaliana.com/index.php?f=data_new_shop_info&

Doesn't the discs need any holes or grooves in?

[mrbryanmarshall]

I see there is a distrubuter in Corsa Italianana

http://www.corsaitaliana.com/index.php?f=data_new_shop_info&

Doesn't the discs need any holes or grooves in?

I spoke to these guys, but they specialise in the Moto Cross brakes, were very helpful but not 100% clued up on Ducati Applications - If you know what you want, I guess they can import, but looking at prices, might want to go direct.

Re. holes/grooves. These are generally for water dissipation, gas release, heat control and "self cleaning." The compromise is that you lose heat quicker due to cooling effect but in theory have less brake fade as too much heat increases this. As these are racing discs, you want more heat but sacrifice cleaning and water dissipation. Hopefully, the other components are good enough to mitigate fade from heat...For the water, it is actually fine unless you are going quite fast in the wet (i don't.) There is also debate whether holes help with water. I believe they do - looking at motogp steel brakes as a referednce and assuming that they kinda know what they are doing...

Gas release - don't think this applies any more as modern materials have prevented this. Drilled discs are technically weaker, which can lead to quicker warping if used hard for a long time.

and the cleaning - well, they begin to squeak quicker and require more attention more often - I.e. Had them a few days and are already squeaking...using semi old pads (i know, need new pads with new discs and have ordered them already....)

most of this applies to using these under racing/hard conditions - which is a long way away from 99% of my use. I.e. commuting and weekend trips with the missus. So, not too worried about the above as even on track days, i'm pretty tame on the brakes :)

Main reason for purchase - needed new discs, these look cool, work better, are thicker and should last forever.