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Pomp1
02-10-2011, 06:36 PM
And with this one is 14 Riders and 17 Manufacturers titles. Happy days.
more here (http://www.ducati.com/racing/superbike/news/ducati_win_all_4_world_superbike_and_superstock_ri ders_and_manufacturers_titles/2011/10/02/765/index.do)

rac3r
02-10-2011, 07:01 PM
I posted this on Ducatisti and it got deleted for not having *spoiler* :chuckle:

Mr.Number
02-10-2011, 07:14 PM
Yes, what a fantastic season for Checa, fair play hes wiped the floor hasnt he and so have ducati.

So this all singing dancing bmw ? Good effort in the superstock but still a good 40 points adrift of the red beast. 11 bmw bikes in superstock this season compared to 5 ducati !

I remember a lot of people blabbin on about the bm when it emerged and i thought it hasnt done anything yet !

Their touring bikes are good tho hahha !

Was gutted for rossi today, a good position on the grid, i thought he would have had a good ride today, especially with the ride through penalties issued to riders who normally sit in the 2nd pack.

I still think ducati will get this right eventually and all these stoner lovers will be fillin their leathers when the beast is unleashed !!

rac3r
02-10-2011, 07:18 PM
The word from Briggs is the bike is finally responding to changes how it should so it will be interesting to see at the next race

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:03 PM
And with this one is 14 Riders and 17 Manufacturers titles.

...and an extra 200cc :rolleyes:

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Pomp1
02-10-2011, 08:13 PM
...and an extra 200cc :rolleyes:

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Ducati would have happily raced the Desmosedici instead, but everyone else said no..:rolleyes:

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:18 PM
Rubbish. That thing would be too expensive to race. Did enough get sold to homologate it for production bike racing? Guaranteed if they could have raced it they would. (EDIT) Plus I don't believe it would be as competitive as some people think...

I don't expect any other response to such contentious issues here. It's like asking the host if the wine is any good :chuckle:

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Pomp1
02-10-2011, 08:26 PM
Rubbish. That thing would be too expensive to race. Did enough get sold to homologate it for production bike racing? Guaranteed if they could have raced it they would.

:rolleyes:

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They could have sold more than they produced anyway, I think the final figure was 1500, how many R7 were produced? used to be 250 minimum. I think a sorted SBK would cost more than a D16 anyday. C'mon Dave, Checa was brilliant this season and the Ducati was the slowest even with 200 extra cc. Give the man his due or you'll start sounding like Biaggi..:chuckle: Melandri did a fine job and he'll be up there next year if he can sort a ride out. I'm truly sorry that Yamaha is retiring the factory team as I think the sport will only suffer.

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:35 PM
Would you believe me, Max, if I told you I hadn't watched a single WSB race this year?

I don't know how many R7s were made but I wish I had one.

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rac3r
02-10-2011, 08:36 PM
Someone started this argument on another forum as well :chuckle:

What about the 999 days? Were they on level terms then or did the Dukes still have more cc's?

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:39 PM
Cost rac3r, cost. Them 999 were almost as expensive to run as the gp bikes. They were getting through so many engines.

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Pomp1
02-10-2011, 08:39 PM
I don't know how many R7s were made but I wish I had one.

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Not something you'll see often me posting on an open forum..me too ;) the answer anyway is 500..

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:42 PM
500 must have been enough to race :thumbsup:

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Pomp1
02-10-2011, 08:47 PM
Someone started this argument on another forum as well :chuckle:

What about the 999 days? Were they on level terms then or did the Dukes still have more cc's?

same CC but a slight weight advantage. This argument (Ducati advantage) comes up time and time again. Ducati have had air restrictors for years now and ballast is added if twin-engined bikes (read Ducati) wins too many races. The truth is that Ducati did and does better than other brands at SBk, see for example Honda or BMW . They believed in the advertising power of SBK from day one, and it paid off.

rac3r
02-10-2011, 08:52 PM
You could also take the view that Ducati are a small company compared to the others?

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:53 PM
*cough* SP1/SP2 *cough* ;)

I'm made up for Carlos to be fair :thumbsup:

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Pomp1
02-10-2011, 08:54 PM
There was no ballast rule when the SP1/2 where around. Yep Dave I think 500 is the minimum number to go racing. I think used to be 250. And Ducati did use the D16 as a "leverage" for the rules. But so did Aprilia wit their £10K transmission last year, and when Petronas built that Foggy bike where they produced them and never sold them. SBK is just like any other Motorsport. Next year should be interesting, with the one bike-one rider rule (and sadly without the Panigale...yet..:))

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:55 PM
You could also take the view that Ducati are a small company compared to the others?

John Britten. Now that was a small firm.

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Pomp1
02-10-2011, 08:57 PM
John Britten. Now that was a small firm.

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And a bloody hero he was..

Mr Cake
02-10-2011, 08:57 PM
Nobody minded the FP1 because it was shoite. If it started winning people would start whining.

Any road...

Carlos Checa
http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/files/superbike-kyalami-carlos-checa-hangs-tough%201.jpg
2011 World Superbike Champion

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Mr.Number
03-10-2011, 02:06 AM
Ducati dont need the panigale it appears ! Keep that in the garage for when Aprilia or bmw up their game.

Gilps
03-10-2011, 08:16 AM
Well done to Checa for superb consistent riding this year, and praise must go to Althea for their efforts and for having faith in the bike even when the factory couldn't be bothered with it.

Rally
03-10-2011, 08:24 AM
Yeah, well done Carlos and an even bigger WELL DONE to Max for spilling the beans before I watched the sky recording, after being out on my bike for the day!

buzzbomb
03-10-2011, 08:43 AM
Calm down, Calm down Alun...:banghead:

You know that young Italian guys get very excited about thier racing...:rolleyes:

Oh yeh congrats to Mr Checa...:hail: I thought he rode the wheels off the bike...:flag:

dam
03-10-2011, 10:47 AM
Yes well done Carlos.... I gave him a few pointers last year..

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc465/douglasmcleod1/checa.jpg

Mr Cake
03-10-2011, 02:56 PM
Well done to Checa for superb consistent riding this year, and praise must go to Althea for their efforts and for having faith in the bike even when the factory couldn't be bothered with it.

On a team infrastructure level that's true; much of the original team left to work for BMW. But the equipment level as far as updates from Bologna, etc was as high as it would have been if it were a 'factory' outfit. That's how all teams should be ran, no factory pressure, and more of a team spirit.

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Pomp1
03-10-2011, 05:40 PM
Yeah, well done Carlos and an even bigger WELL DONE to Max for spilling the beans before I watched the sky recording, after being out on my bike for the day!

Rally, Checa needed 3 points, not exactly surprising, was it? ;)

Rally
03-10-2011, 06:22 PM
It wasn't a surprise at all Max, but its still good not to know beforehand! Let's face it, look at Moto GP yesterday, who could of predicted all of that happening?

I'm okay about it Max, just airing my view. :thumbsup:

slob
03-10-2011, 07:08 PM
and don't forget Superstock Champions for the 4th time (rider's, 3rd manufacturer's)

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=42579