Akropovic, Termignoni and the list goes on...

[Kameloil]

Viper, Yoshimura, Akropovic, Termignoni, Leo Vince, MIVV, G&G. I can see from this forum, that there are different opinions on products and almost everyone loves what they have fitted but can you share your experiences with us newbies.

Upgrading an exhaust (but still being road legal) isn't all about volume. For me, I'm looking for a better sound not just more noise...call me strange.:dizzy:

What are your preferences on Titanium or Carbon?

Which manufacturer do you recommend for a M696 and which would you steer clear of?

What effect will a change have on fuelling. Will I need to get it retuned?

Any advice, wisdom or experience welcome.
Grasshopper

[Char]

Personal taste most the time - love my Zards - they all have they're own sound to

However if I had a new monster I would get the ones RJBex has - they are the muts nuts

[popelli]

if you fit free flowing pipes you will probably need to remap the fueling to get maximum gains from them

as regards brands and power extracted advice I got from local dyno shop is it makes virtually zero difference and to buy what ever you can get the best deal on

[steeevvvooo]

depends on which bike and the looks you want i.e. high/low level, single/twin, stacked shotgun style etc etc

Termis are the "standard" and are what most others are compared to, but as said Zards sounds great, I have Leo Vince which is a little different (sounds slightly more raspy to my ears, with a little less bass than termis?!)

I went for Leos as they were much cheaper than termis, and the single can cleans things up a little IMHO.

[rac3r]

Just get whatever you like the look of/can afford. Slip ons won't give much power gain if at all and they'll all sound great!

[chris yeatman]

arrows r also a good system great looks, great sound, road legal.


http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af14/chrisyeatman/s4r/002-1.jpg

[popelli]

Just get whatever you like the look of/can afford. Slip ons won't give much power gain if at all and they'll all sound great!

not much power gain??? usually get around 8hp at the back wheel, maybe the dyno is telling porkies

[1100steve]

I would LOVE to have some Termi's but at a few quid under a grand that is highly unlikely for a good while yet, I keep checking ebay etc for 2nd hand, there were some on there last week from a written off 1100 but they went very quickly and still for more than I could afford.

I keep looking at these as they look and sound pretty good and seem well priced, has anyone ordered from them?

http://www.sc-project.com/

Some sound/video clips:
696:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWZ0XoglZQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
1100:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgTfQEYMa4&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[Gordon H]

arrows r also a good system great looks, great sound, road legal.

You going to trim that hedge this year???

[Blah blah]

don't forget "microns'!!

[rac3r]

not much power gain??? usually get around 8hp at the back wheel, maybe the dyno is telling porkies

Really? from a slip on??

[bex]

However if I had a new monster I would get the ones RJBex has - they are the muts nuts

Cheque's in the post Char :spin::biggrin:

[popelli]

Really? from a slip on??

as I said the dyno must be lying ..............

[Kameloil]

Thanks Char, The Zards do look good and sound great; just had a browse on their site. Which variation did you choose?
http://www.zardexhaust.com/?page_id=221

RGBex do you have a picture to share with us? Which manufacturer did you opt for, I’m assuming Muts Nuts isn’t stamped on the side of them ;)

Hey Popelli, manufacturers like Akrapovic claim ‘the max. increased power of 5.38 HP was measured at 4400 rpm’. It probably was under laboratory conditions, but they are here to sell. I guess there is no guarantee until you do your own testing, but 7.5% is not a bad improvement if it’s true.
http://www.akrapovic.com/motorcycle-exhaust/products/ducati/model/monster-696-2008-2009/slip-on-e240050601/

Steeevvvooo, Thanks for the advice. Looks like LeoVince are making twin pipes for the 696, get your wallet out for an upgrade.
http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-ducati/terminale_lv_one_omologato_evo_ii_passaggio_standa rd_monster_696_i_e_2008_2010/13960
They look great and I am a fan of the twin high mount. However the Termi’s website is probably the worst on the net so no idea what they are offering!
http://www.termignoni.it/products_detail.php?id=1336#dett

Chris Y, The Arrows have a similar high twin system that look really good, I’m now starting to worry about all the choice out there! Incredible paint job, is you bike a special edition or is this custom paint job?
http://www.arrow.it/eng/website/

Steve1100, You are right the SC Project cans are pretty reasonable and it would be good to get some feedback from anyone who has them fitted. Watch the right foot peg vibrate with increased revs, looks like it wants to get away from the noise!
http://www.sc-project.com/ducati_monster_photogallery_oval_line.htm

Blah, Blah I may have found the second worst website on the net, Micron need some marketing advice!

Here are a few other links, other companies I’d never heard of.
http://hmfracing.com/shop/pipes/ducati/monster-696-08-10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_UIoIvwJKw

Conclusion is there is more choice than I thought, power might be increased but we are not sure, and I have to sell my soul to the Diavel to get a set. I think Louis Cypher would choose these...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VusUJQp5VdY but that’s just my opinion. ;)

Thanks all

[Kameloil]

Now can anyone tell me why a Slovenian pipe manufacturer can sell his wares for £245 cheaper in the states :fiery:

Also where am I going to get £907 from on a Monday morning?

[slob]

...because he's an American of Slovenian extraction?

I think carbon cans tend to have a sharper sound to them, metal ones are usually a little richer/deeper in tone, maybe it's just me.

[Char]

Thanks Char, The Zards do look good and sound great; just had a browse on their site. Which variation did you choose?
http://www.zardexhaust.com/?page_id=221
RGBex do you have a picture to share with us? Which manufacturer did you opt for, I’m assuming Muts Nuts isn’t stamped on the side of them ;)

Hey Popelli, manufacturers like Akrapovic claim ‘the max. increased power of 5.38 HP was measured at 4400 rpm’. It probably was under laboratory conditions, but they are here to sell. I guess there is no guarantee until you do your own testing, but 7.5% is not a bad improvement if it’s true.
http://www.akrapovic.com/motorcycle-exhaust/products/ducati/model/monster-696-2008-2009/slip-on-e240050601/

Steeevvvooo, Thanks for the advice. Looks like LeoVince are making twin pipes for the 696, get your wallet out for an upgrade.
http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-ducati/terminale_lv_one_omologato_evo_ii_passaggio_standa rd_monster_696_i_e_2008_2010/13960
They look great and I am a fan of the twin high mount. However the Termi’s website is probably the worst on the net so no idea what they are offering!
http://www.termignoni.it/products_detail.php?id=1336#dett

Chris Y, The Arrows have a similar high twin system that look really good, I’m now starting to worry about all the choice out there! Incredible paint job, is you bike a special edition or is this custom paint job?
http://www.arrow.it/eng/website/

Steve1100, You are right the SC Project cans are pretty reasonable and it would be good to get some feedback from anyone who has them fitted. Watch the right foot peg vibrate with increased revs, looks like it wants to get away from the noise!
http://www.sc-project.com/ducati_monster_photogallery_oval_line.htm

Blah, Blah I may have found the second worst website on the net, Micron need some marketing advice!

Here are a few other links, other companies I’d never heard of.
http://hmfracing.com/shop/pipes/ducati/monster-696-08-10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_UIoIvwJKw

Conclusion is there is more choice than I thought, power might be increased but we are not sure, and I have to sell my soul to the Diavel to get a set. I think Louis Cypher would choose these...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VusUJQp5VdY but that’s just my opinion. ;)

Thanks all

Round ones :dizzy: hey I'm a girl - tsk -got them second hand off the forum - then just got the bike tuned up to run without baffles and standard filter etc - should be a nice selection to take a look/listen to at Ducati Aylesbury if you come along in a fortnight - if you can leave the decision till then

[Kameloil]

Thanks Char,

Round ones is a good answer. To be fair this is all new to me and i'm learning from yous lot too. I'm actually waiting to hear about delivery of my bike from those chaps in Aylesbury. Who knows I might be there picking up my new bike that day.:banana: Otherwise I can't see me turning up on an 125 :thumbsdown:

hope I can make it.

[Funkatronic]

i think bex's exhaust is made by QuatD and i agree with Char they are the nicest looking exhaust for the new shape monsters i have seen yet

you wont go wring with arrows or Zards either,
Termis are great and have lots of cahce, but tbh the build quaility is hit and mis on many if the items i have seen (not sure about new shape monsters tbh)

difference in sound is subjective and will depend on the bike (other peoples exhuasts always sound better than mine when im following them on a ride out funnily enough)

i have had carbon and Titatinium arrows on the s2r800 and i cant tell the deffernce, both are bastard loud and will rattle windows and set car alarms off on decelaration (the titanuium cans will take baffles though)

the Carbon Zards i have heard on an 800 sound a bit bassier than the arrows or termis

i have steel Mivvs on the 1000 and even with the cat still in they are very loud and a not as bass heavy little raspeir that the arrows on the 800

so ulimately it comes down to looks and build quality and price
id rank them like this for build (but again this might be different for diff bikes)
arrows
Quat D/mivv
Zard
Termi

[Kameloil]

Thanks,

Very informative post, good to get the lowdown. Here's a link to Quat D UK stockist and some prices for the M696 options.

http://www.dynomaxuk.com/QDducatimonster696.html

Twin slip-on aluminum oval mufflers + catalyst £609.08
Twin slip-on carbon oval mufflers + catalyst £656.41
Twin slip-on titanium conical mufflers + catalyst £699.34
Twin slip-on carbon round mufflers + catalyst £651.15
All Prices Plus VAT @ 20%

[gary tompkins]

You going to trim that hedge this year???

Oooowf... get in my son!

My vote goes for 105db high level WRP cans plus a mile long tunnel in Italy to play in.. Bwaah..Bwaaah..Bwaaaaaah.. poppity pop!!!

Bliss :biggrin:

[Kato]

Some of these will do it......but get some earplugs first

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/kato--/Mivv001.jpg

[Mr.Number]

If its any help, the research i have done points towards the arrows. There is a direct comparison on the net somewhere between the termi and arrow system. It shows the internal welds and you can see the particular termi set was bodged on the inner seems,which may tie in with what funk is saying. The arrow was immaculate. It could well have been a one off poor production that was shown for the termi, who knows but its food for thought. The arrow is bloody expensive, but im just around the corner from taking the plunge as i need new cans. The quatd system also looks good in the shotgun style but not sure its a match for the arrows on raw rumble !! Anyone got the double sided shotgun quatd ?

Let us know what you go with

[Funkatronic]

i have the shotgun Mivv X Cone on the S2R 1000 and i think they are the best looking exhaust for this bike even covered in mud :-)

i havent removed the cat yet but thats going v soon

the arrows stuff is really top notch, the zrd is good too but i have seen 2 sets now with the end caps coming away from the carbon

i think those prices are just for for the slip on system, i think Bex's 796 has the magnum conical full system that has an the exhuast pipe going under the engine like older monsters and it looks killer

can find a photo at the mo, but im sure she will be along to show off her pride and Joy soon :-)

[rac3r]

Have a look at the post I just made :thumbsup:

[pegboy]

I am going through the same problem, what exhaust for the 1000. The M600 i brought a damaged pair of termis brought new carbon sleeves and packing (although not much packing was used) and hey presto like new, i didnt put the termi stickers back on liked them better without.

I thought i ahd decided on a full Arrows system but every time i go to hit the buy button termi springs back into my mind and i hesitate. I agree with Funkatronic about the build aspect of termi thats whats pushed me more towards Arrows. The fact is the 1000 is far to quiet.

[Kameloil]

Ignoring the price am I the only one that like the akrapovic set (albeit in full carbon)?

http://www.akrapovic.com/motorcycle-exhaust/products/ducati/model/monster-696-2008-2009/slip-on-e240050601/

Looks amazing on the 1100

http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/ext/user_products/mod1/uploads/products/slip_on_street_legal_exhaust_system_for_the_ducati _monster_1100_s_2009_2010_/837361253817ac815d1da66f5337dbdf.jpg

somebody take my side? :(

[Jan (Belgium)]

Ignoring the price I would replace my termis with this:

http://www.spareshack.com/products/703/M1100-Metaltech-Titanium-Full-System.php

[Char]

Oh Jan you are a tease :piglet:

[He11cat]

Mivvs sound nice .... I have bean can termis hacked to bits mind..

Oi Chris be a gent and buy that lady a backrest thingmy shes falling off the back of your bike !!! Mind you if she landed in your overgrown bush she would have a soft landing
:confused:

[animaluk]

Termis for me the origanal and best ;0) #
The link is racing with Termis and ducati which is why so many dukes had them fitted, But now they make pipes for all bikes and scooters it would seem

[chris yeatman]

You going to trim that hedge this year???

Mmmmmmmmm...............no

[chris yeatman]

Chris Y, Incredible paint job, is you bike a special edition or is this custom paint job?


not sure tbh, there r a few about tho.
i know its a colour from ducati,

[Mr.Number]

Chris did you adjust fuelling after fitting the arrows ?

[Char]

Riders spent about an hour fiddling with a screwdriver and got the (Zards) bike running sweet with standard filter etc - ran like a dog before

[Kameloil]

Ignoring the price I would replace my termis with this:

http://www.spareshack.com/products/703/M1100-Metaltech-Titanium-Full-System.php

that's a helluva bike, The pipes are road legal?
loving the clutch cover also :)

[Rich750Dark]

I have to admit i love my Sil's, i'd forgotten how light carbon cans are in comparison with the standard ones until i swapped them the other day for the MoT. Not having riden for around 6 months, the standard cans seem loud so naturally i can't wait to get the sil's back on! Was a bit worried though when the neighbour but one came out the other day when i was warming it up to say that the bike scared her granddaughter! Er, didn't have the heart to tell her i'd put the quiet ones on that morning.....................

[neilo]

The stock cans on the 1100EVO are actually manufactured by MIVV...and I'm really happy with them, not to mention the fact that I don't need to sell any of my body parts to buy an aftermarket system for minimal gains...

[Kameloil]

I had a test ride on an 1100 evo when my bike went in for its first service. The stock exhaust sounds great, just what I'm looking for. I asked how much it would cost to trade my 696 in and buy the Evo. He started off by offerring me £2000 off the price I paid 3 months earlier. I stopped listening.

There is a ducati performance termi pipe for the Evo....aren't you tempted?

[neilo]

There is a ducati performance termi pipe for the Evo....aren't you tempted?

If money wasn't an issue, of course, but since I'm not 'loaded', I have better things to do with my disposable income... :)

[ryanhorton1973]

Hi. I have Leo Vince GP Style slip ons on my Monster 696 and have had them on there since the bike was about a year old. I have had no issues with fuelling or any faults / issues with the bike since they were put on (by myself not at a workshop). The bottom line for me was cost compared to the termis (I got them for about a third of the price of termis). They sound nice and are really loud with out the baffles in !

[Small Clanger]

Termignoni's for me. Supplied and fitted by the dealer prior to delivery along with the air filter and ECU. Thus avoiding any potential warranty issues.
They sound and, IMO, look fantastic.
BTW, when I switch the bike on, the read-out goes MONSTER-UK-DP. Am I right in thinking that the DP refers to the remap?

600 mile service on Friday, hope it's not pissing it down.

[neilo]

They sound and, IMO, look fantastic.


I must say...they look great!

[Funkatronic]

DP=Ducati Performance

it means you have the DP ECU installed

despite my earlier post, i'm liking those evo termis v much

[neilo]

...here's one that won't break the bank. I've had Arrows before and I couldn't fault them.

http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/Arrow_Racetech_Darkline_Aluminium_DUCATI_MONSTER_1 100_EVO_2011_on--product--12336.html

[rac3r]

Having had both Arrows and Termi's I would pick Arrows every time, the quality and finish is so much better. Those black series ones look awesome but I prefer the shot gun style. Although the side by side is different I guess and goes with the original monster style

[munster]

Has anyone seen this beauty from Rmoto.co.uk they have taken over from Dynomax as QD distributors here in the UK, and this one saves loads of weight as well as sounding pretty fruity.

[Funkatronic]

yep thats the one bex has on er 796.
i think thats the nicest exhaust for the new monsters hands down

[The Red Devil]

cant decide whether to change from loud standard 1100 evo pipes to louder (possibly) carbon or stainless Termis... £1000 for carbon £1300 for SS ones... Std pipes.. have good sound.. is it worth the cost..and increased insurance premium too!!

[rac3r]

cant decide whether to change from loud standard 1100 evo pipes to louder (possibly) carbon or stainless Termis... £1000 for carbon £1300 for SS ones... Std pipes.. have good sound.. is it worth the cost..and increased insurance premium too!!

That's pretty damn expensive for slip ons! I'd rather go with the arrows that were posted before or the QuatD mentioned above for a fraction of the cost

http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/Arrow_Racetech_Darkline_Aluminium_DUCATI_MONSTER_1 100_EVO_2011_on--product--12336.html

[The Red Devil]

That's pretty damn expensive for slip ons! I'd rather go with the arrows that were posted before or the QuatD mentioned above for a fraction of the cost

http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/Arrow_Racetech_Darkline_Aluminium_DUCATI_MONSTER_1 100_EVO_2011_on--product--12336.html

Great value.. I wonder if there is a double stacked option I like the look of that? Very smart neat design .. Wonder what they sound like!?

[munster]

If your talking about the QD version, it only comes as a single silencer. And it weighs 7kg compared to the standard system with the heavy twin regulation silencers. My mate has them on his bike and with the db killers in they sound awesome but still bearable.

I have attached a few pics he took before he put them on the bike. He bought it from the peeps below. Nice people and give discount to UKMOC owners club.

http://www.rmoto.co.uk/index.php