I also wanna cut my ass off

[bex]

Right the more I hang around here the more I get the itch to cut my tail off... however, I have high level Ducati Performance pipes which are going to look rubbish with a tail tidy as they extend too far.

What are my options?...

- can I shorten the pipes?
- can I sell my high levels and replace with low levels or under seat type (?) without having to spend extortionate amounts of money in the process?

...I quite like the second option actually, but am reluctant to spend absolutely loads to make it happen. I also like how the high levels sound and dont want to cock that up.

Any advice? I dont know enough about exhaust systems to know what the feasible options are.

Help?

Recentish pic for reference:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/Monster_090908_02_jpeg.jpg

[bex]

Oh baby, I wouldn't mind to get me some of these - how do Mivv's compare to Termi's?

http://www.mivv.it/public/foto_marmitte/D016L2Sa.JPG
http://www.mivv.it/public/foto_marmitte/AD016L2Sa.JPG

[Pancho]

If you decide to sell your pipes, I'll have them off you! Great lookin bike btw

[adam15]

You can shorten the pipes if you want, requires a bit of work but know there are some on this site who have done it before espeically with standard cans that you can take some of the restriction out at the same time.
The Mivv cans look nice but I'm affraid i dont know much about them and would personally stick with the termis
oh and keep my arse :-D lol

[granite785]

Have a look here, Big Pete did it to his and kept hte hi levels.

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=34817

I'm thinking I might chop mine over the winter too.

[rac3r]

This is a bit off topic but does your left hand side (gear lever side) link pipe touch your swing arm?

As for the tail chop why not spray the mudguard and the side blades gloss black? that's what I'm going to be doing when I get round to it

[Steve Willmott]

Just do it :yoparty: I did mine in '97 & it's led to a life with next to no standard parts :freak::chuckle: Is there another joint under the carbon heat shields? If not it'll mean cutting & re-welding that section of pipe, or better still get the low level cans (I'm not a fan of high levels myself)

[uksurfer]

i lowered mine, look better and is quite easy...

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=32679


get the angle grinder out

[Albie]

Hi termis never looked good chopped. the pipes are too long going in to them. Cans will look too short. Personally I would sell for a good price enough to buy some good pipes or swap for low level termis. IMHO:D

[bex]

I think I will go for low levels - anyone know how much I should be asking for my high levels?

No opinions on the Mivv's then? I think the low levels look better than termi's - fatter and shorter. Dont know how they will sound though? I like the noise of the bike at the minute and am kind of worried about messing it up. :(

I found this picture randomly surfing the net, of the Mivv GP's fitted and I think they look fantastic...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/MIVVgpcans.jpg

[rac3r]

The IL4 bikes on you tube with Mivv's fitted sound awesome!

Could you not use the existing cans but lower them?

[uksurfer]

if you take your carbon guards of you should see a spring holding them on, i believe you can just lower your termis down, buy some low level link pipes, about £60, then bolt them back on, the high level is just a 's' shaped pipe i think

[bex]

if you take your carbon guards of you should see a spring holding them on, i believe you can just lower your termis down, buy some low level link pipes, about £60, then bolt them back on, the high level is just a 's' shaped pipe i think

Even low down though, they are quite long cans no? Maybe I'm just talking myself out of it......

I think the thing is that deep deep down inside I really, and I mean REALLY want those stubby fat Mivv's........ :on:

[uksurfer]

get a quad d exbox?

[bex]

get a quad d exbox?

How come you say that? Someone else actually suggested the same earlier on in conversation...... how do they sound? Are they road legal?

[uksurfer]

there shorter than termis and mivvs :D

[bex]

No sh*t! ;)

And what are they like really?? Can't decide if I like how they look....?

How much can I sell my set of high level termis for you reckon?

[uksurfer]

exbox about 7-800, you'll probably get 200 for the termis, i think there expensive to buy but alot cheaper second hand.
Someone on here offered me a exbox recently, for £300 i think, not sure how they sound, ask bluprintz or JMO?

[bex]

They're certainly interesting, I don't imagine they'll sound as good as termis or the mivv's, they look a bit odd... not sure if thats good...hum.

[uksurfer]

with a tail chop, they really open up the rear wheel and you can see through the bike, thats what i liked on my 600, but there is a hoop in the way, on a 620 you got no hoop, it will look good.
i dont see the point of tail chopping and leaving the high levels on, theres nothing achieved IMHO

[bex]

Yep I'm in total agreement there; to really appreciate the tidy the cans have to go.

I'm just in a tizzy about what to replace them with - can't be arsed with the lowering business to be honest - would rather get some low levels or something quirky like the quat D like you said, though concerned about the bike running different and not in a good way when I change to something else!

[uksurfer]

i think you'll find that your exhausts are either 'high' or 'low' level, i might be wrong, its only the link pipes that are different?

take the carbon shields of and have a look, two allen keys, mine had a join there, held on with a spring.

and, if you tail chop with high levels, your no. plate might not fit between them?

i sold my high level link pipes and carbon shields on ebay for £190!!!!

[bex]

Aside from the dodgy rapid photoshopping, a chop and a quat-d coated in black, actually, is kind of doing something for me I have to say....

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/chop2.jpg

[Albie]

Aside from the dodgy rapid photoshopping, a chop and a quat-d coated in black, actually, is kind of doing something for me I have to say....

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/chop2.jpg

I was going to say that or road race cans but yorkie sold them.

looks great bex:D

[uksurfer]

looks better already! just need to lose the rear pegs, stick on some rear sets and some dropped bars

[bex]

:D:D:D

Right, where can I find them not at 700 quid!!!

[Albie]

Yours are carbon Hi levels. Accept no less than £250 in good condition. They tend to go well on ebay as they are dear to buy.

[bex]

Ok, noted, thank you!

[uksurfer]

RODUC had one for a S2r, wether it will fit yours, probably not? Albie will know :spin:

[kneedown]

i have been told by a few people nothing sounds as good as termis

[Albie]

I doubt it. The length of the s2r rear header is different in the horizontal direction to the 620. I could be wrong so please check. The x box is virtually the s2/4r cat bladder but better design and awesome sound.

[steeevvvooo]

the ex box looks good!! :woot:

Never heard one myself so can't comment, but I like the look...

[bex]

Yeh on spareshack they seem to sell different sets for several different types : M1000, M600/620/750/800, M900, S2R 1000 twin spark, S2R 800 & S4R, S4, S4RS.

Wonder whats the chances of finding what I need, god, am I really going to have to pay £700 :nash:

[BluprintZ]

Wonder whats the chances of finding what I need, god, am I really going to have to pay £700 :nash:

I paid £900 for the x-box Bex, that seems to be the price of systems these days.
4-1 systems in the 80's were fairly affordable and worth it, i'm not sure the systems nowadays are though.

G ; )

[bex]

Are you pleased with it? Hows it sound?

[big pete]

Why not just get the hi level link pipes shortened and shorten the cans by 2" as well would take them right back in and show the tail chop Bex. Plan to take 2" out of my link ppes shortly! Sorry if this causes further confusion

[bex]

Why not just get the hi level link pipes shortened and shorten the cans by 2" as well would take them right back in and show the tail chop Bex. Plan to take 2" out of my link ppes shortly! Sorry if this causes further confusion

I'm just keen for a change to be honest, plus thats not a mod I'd be able to do myself personally. I think I prefer how other options look compared to the high levels as they are or even shortened. Money might mean I just leave them as they are, quat D is so expensive :thumbsdown:

[Albie]

Did Pomp sell his road racing cans. They are almost like Jmo's under slung tubes.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/pomp_one/roadracing%20exhaust/DSCF1847.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/pomp_one/roadracing%20exhaust/DSCF1846.jpg

and this is what you get:

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/pomp_one/roadracing%20exhaust/DSCF1851.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2477/3909679545_0a14563b9c.jpg

[skank]

1. Chop tail, buy low level link pipes, ebay high level link pipes.
2. Fit your cans low, bike will look good.

then when you are bored and have money

3. Sell low level Termis and buy Mivv/Ex-box.


IMO, Carbon 2-2 or large bore 2-1 sounds the best, hands down.
Metal under slung cans are insanely loud and fun but you lose the rumble.
I had the Road Racing under engine ones and swapped for DP 2-1 Carbon system.
You want to keep the rumble :D

2.

[bex]

What on earth are these? Any one heard of them before?

Wonder if they'd fit.............. and I wonder if they're pants?! :chuckle:

http://www.motocreations.com/BoomTubes/BoomS2R1.jpg

[Pancho]

they look badass

[gary tompkins]

The Mivv cans look nice in low or high level. Bet they will be mental LOUD though. I have short Sil motor and WRP's on both bike & trike, and they are too noisey for me without add in baffles. I've also run the solo on low level oval termi's, and although still loud unbaffled, the sound is more mellow. There's only so much silencing a short end can can manage, so as a rule the smaller you go the louder they will get.

The low level termi's shown on the solo may be up for sale shortly BTW ;)


Titanium WRP's on trike
http://ukmonster.co.uk/photopost/data/531/M900-trike-6.jpg

C/F Sil motor's on solo
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2596/3951152763_775aec00ca.jpg

[BluprintZ]

Are you pleased with it? Hows it sound?

Over the moon with it Bex.
I know they are expensive but in my opinion, if you want your bike to look and perform in a certain way, then you have to try and forget what you are spending on it.
My 900 is 11 years old and as i've mentioned before a few times, it's probably worth around £1,500. tops, as a tidy, sorted bike.
The work i did on it last winter, came to around £1,800, including the Ex-Box.
So, with the £2,000. i paid for it in April`08, plus the above mentioned expenses, it stands me at nearly £4,000.
I forgot to add the £200 for new tyres i got at the end of July, so it really does stand me at £4.000.
Obviously, i'm never going to get my money back if i decide to sell it, so i'm not going to sell it, pointless as it is exactly how i want it now.
With the Ex-Box, it sounds like a bike should sound, thumpity, thumpity!

G : );)

[gary tompkins]

A couple of my 900ie wearing low oval level Termi's

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2636/3951183869_87d63980ce.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2551/3951139917_cc89a4e99a.jpg

[Pomp1]

I still have the roadracing, they're on evilbay at the moment, but they won't fit bexs' bike as far as I know without modification to the header.I've got hi-levels with a tail chop and they don't look out of place, they're an old termi item, but I think sils did the same thing .here (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=33397)
BTW who's got an X-box at 300 quid? seriously interested!:D

[big pete]

Gary that bike is stunning, simple and effective! that could be the way to go Bex , just get link pipes as Skank says.

[bex]

Ok after sleeping on it, I think the Quat D is just too expensive, unless I can get one second hand. Also I'm worried it won't sound as good, but if I can get one second hand then I'd probably be less concerned about the sound, since I wont have spent quite so much.

I dont want to keep my existing pipes and I don't particularly want low level termi's - just personal preference but I think other shorter cans look better.

Like the Mivvs, but think keeping the high level thing going slightly defeats the purpose and appreciation of the tail chop.

Still like the low level Mivv's as in the image I posted befoe - no comments on those?

As it stands I'm thinking second hand Quat D or (prob new) low level Mivv's.... thoughts/good idea/bad idea?

Stressful business this.

[adam15]

Ok after sleeping on it, I think the Quat D is just too expensive, unless I can get one second hand. Also I'm worried it won't sound as good, but if I can get one second hand then I'd probably be less concerned about the sound, since I wont have spent quite so much.

I dont want to keep my existing pipes and I don't particularly want low level termi's - just personal preference but I think other shorter cans look better.

Like the Mivvs, but think keeping the high level thing going slightly defeats the purpose and appreciation of the tail chop.

Still like the low level Mivv's as in the image I posted befoe - no comments on those?

As it stands I'm thinking second hand Quat D or (prob new) low level Mivv's.... thoughts/good idea/bad idea?

Stressful business this.

I have to agree, it does take a while to work out exactly what you want to do to your bike, it did for me before i rebuilt mine.
All I can really say is you have to chose the option that you like best for yourself, at least that way it will be your own personalised bike and different from others.

Personally I would keep some sort of cans as apposed to a Quat D but then thats my opinion.
As for the Mivvs just make sure you get them in carbon fibre :D

Hope it does take you too long to decide

[steeevvvooo]

if I can get one second hand then I'd probably be less concerned about the sound, since I wont have spent quite so much.


Don't compromise on what you want to achieve here. It seems you want

1) to open up the rear
2) Keep it loud/sounding nice
3) not spend too much (after selling the Termis)

Apart from modifying the Termis, my personal opinion would be the low Mivs. They float your boat, sound great according to people on here, and will open up the rear post chop.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TERMINALE-INOX-MIVV-OVALE-DUCATI-MONSTER-620-2002_W0QQitemZ150373014348QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRicam bi_e_Accessori_Moto?hash=item2302ee1b4c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2922wt_952

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ECHAPPEMENT-MIVV-OVAL-INOX-DUCATI-MONSTER-620-2002_W0QQitemZ360192329324QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_JG _Moto_Pi%C3%A8ces?hash=item53dd22c66c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2345wt_1125

Not sure how much for carbon, but the cost to change would be reasonable buying from ebay? :scratch: maybe an Italian member can translate and tell you if there is a catch I'm missing?

[skank]

look here for a good selection of exhausts.

https://shop.daniele-moto.de/

might give you an idea of what to look for.


These guys do a slash cut carbon stubby you might like at a good price.
http://www.spengineering.co.uk/store/ducati%20racecans.htm

If Quill can't make me what I'm after they would be 2nd choice.

the world is literally your oyster when it comes to exhausts, the hard part is deciding what you want :D

[kneedown]

the bike with mivvs looks good to me 'might be way to got

[bex]

Any thoughts between the Mivv' and these? These are from SP Engineering as per skanks link. Does anyone know of them or what they are like? Not heard of them personally - Rick have you ever seen or heard these on?

So it could be these:
http://www.spengineering.co.uk/images/racecans/carbb04a.jpghttp://www.spengineering.co.uk/images/racecans/carbb02.jpghttp://www.spengineering.co.uk/images/racecans/carbb01.jpghttp://www.spengineering.co.uk/images/racecans/carbb04.jpg

As opposed to the Mivv's: (A couple of hundred quid dearer)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/rjbecs/MIVVgpcans.jpg

AAAAAAAAAAAH.

????

[big pete]

If they come with link pipes bex or by the time you buy link pipes after selling the Termis and your a couple of hundered pounds better off , go for it. As long as you get the look you want , must say tho at that length with no baffles they'll be loud. SUUUUUUUUPERB!!!!!

[bex]

Pete which ones do you mean? The SP Engineering cans?

[big pete]

SP engineering Bex , they look the danglies.

[steeevvvooo]

Those sp ones have a massive exit hole, and a tiny looking baffle. You might want to make sure the baffle is removable if you want loads of noise. They look good tho!

[gary tompkins]

A couple more from my archive

Stubby high levels - possibly 900SS cans

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2652/3951141055_be6f3ec3b9.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3951918900_89dd0cc9da.jpg

Short(ish) low levels
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2619/3944906591_3d5d24c8a7.jpg

Stubby low levels
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/3959923226_a9605fe1d0.jpg

1-off custom system if you have the budget?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/3951919094_be21d6cf77.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2549/3951141225_90aab33a33.jpg

Or just custom end cans?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2647/3959923462_e8de3a2793.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2453/3959923776_caaac15e20.jpg

[gary tompkins]

Classic reverse cones
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3959933002_fbf82003d8.jpg


High level 2 into 1
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/3959174999_882cf4c3d9.jpg

Super fat cans
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/3959927190_043262c659.jpg

and finally the slight draw back of a tailchop
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3484/3959216987_06d51c0a13.jpg