** Ukmoc - 2009 Track Day !!

[J.P]

Ok, so here's the idea.
In the past the UKMOC have hosted a track day for members, but if you've been around when they've been organized you'll know how difficult they can be to guarantee attendance and minimise the risk of not filling all the spaces at the cost to individuals.

Well, I love track days and I think there are plenty of other members who 'd also like to give it a try for the first time or come along for the fun in a safe environment.
So what I've done, with the backing of the club Presidents, is speak to a company called RAPID TRAINING, about being able to block book spaces, for MOSTER OWNERS, without the hassle of the club having to make all the arrangements and carry the full cost. Now there won't be all the extra Ducati UK backing as it's a normal track day, but the more spaces we can fill, the more it'll feel like our own day.

The outline is this. I'll probably take 45-50 spaces, of the 100 or so at one of their track days, split between beginners & intermediates, and then get club members to take the slots. If there's excess demand, members can apply to the company directly when they release the remaining spaces.

So there are TWO DATES that are best taking into account all factors, but I need a consensus of which one people want most.

ROCKINGHAM - MONDAY, 1ST OF JUNE
CADWELL PARK - MONDAY, 3RD OF AUGUST

PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTE ABOVE, EVEN IF YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE GOING NOW, BUT WHAT ONE WOULD YOU PREFER IF YOU COULD ?

Cost will be about £120 per head. Noise limit 105 decibels (no exceptions).
50% due on booking to reserve your space, and the balance 8 full weeks before the track day. I'll be running bookings & payments.

I've used Rapid Training a number of times and found them some of the best run & best natured track days going, so no need to feel scared.

SO MAKE YOUR CHOICE !

J.P

[Capo]

CADWELL I'm in.

[slob]

I'll play, subject to finishing new trackbike in time.
Love Cadwell but haven't tried Rockingham, no preference, delighted to do either.

... oh and good work J.P!

[Kato]

I'm in voted for Cadwell but never riden either so don't care which, new track bike won't be finished so might just have to take it easy...

[Snips]

I'd love to take my own bike out on a track for a 'committed ride' without having to worry about speed limits, so I could just focus on riding. It would be my first time, so I'd need a novice grouo.

If this event is suitable, then I'd be in. Rockingham preferred.

[benson]

Thanks for the effort here JP - I hope the event really takes off - but not the bikes....

[J.P]

Don't worry, the trackday is suitable for all novices. It'll be the best day you've had on your bike.
It never ceases to amaze me the change in complete novice riders from the first lap to the last lap.
Fantastic

[Gilps]

I voted for Rockingham simply coz I've not ridden there and it's more central than Cadwell, but I'll do Cadwell if needs be. I'm happy to attend a UKMOC TD bit I'll be on the track bike and not the Monster.

[JerryXt]

mmm, Cadwell for me - never done it - but on one of the track bikes, not the monnie I'm afraid

[JerryXt]

I'm in voted for Cadwell but never riden either so don't care which, new track bike won't be finished so might just have to take it easy...

ah, yes, this on the bike that hasn't cost you any money at all this year!!!

Thanks for the effort here JP - I hope the event really takes off - but not the bikes....

not if it's Cadwell :D

[S4Rs-Tone]

do both venue's insist on one piece leathers?

[J.P]

No, two piece leathers are fine but they HAVE to zip together all the way round. It's for your own good really.

[slob]

Usually two-piece are fine as long as the zip goes all the way round middle.
I'll let J.P confirm that though since I have no personal experience of a Rapid Training day.

....doh! too slow.

[J.P]

It's like I've got nothing better to do all day than sit here making posts.
Oh, I don't actually.

[scrapps]

I am happy to do either track, did cadwell with rapid last year and the track is awsome and the training is brill.....
sign me JP...
I will bring the monnie and the track bike:spin:

[Albie]

Im voting for cadwell but I doubt if my monnie will get 105 db so will have to bring 748 unless I do get a m1100. The way im feeling at moment says keep what I got so not sure.

[Gadget]

Not done Rockingham but Cadwell is a wonderful track.

Happy to go to either.

I'm in.

[Funkatronic]

yes mate

im a novice too and would love to try some track riding so count me in,

rockingham is slightly better for me as a londoner but a ride up to leicestershire would be fun too so i have no preference really

ali

[ladybird]

I'd like to come out to play.
Another one for the novice group.
(unless there is a lower group 'rubbish-at-bends')

[gary tompkins]

My personal preference would be Cadwell

My question would be - will any of them allow me to use the trike?

[LouSCannon]

My first track day!

I voted for either, but that was before I checked my work diary, already booked on 1st June so Cadwell might work better.

Can always try and move it otherwise, just confirm as soon as we can so I can book the day off!

[Jim66a]

Put me down for Cadwell. Will there be camping and bbq the night before?

[JerryXt]

I'd imagine a few of us will take a van to either venue. I certainly will and I'll have space for one bike at least if someone wants to share.

[J.P]

I'll check about camping on site but know there are B&B's nearby anyway which I hope will accommodate.

[NattyBoy]

would prefer rocky..

[J.P]

That's it, keep those votes coming in.

[steeevvvooo]

Just how loud is 105db? I have "race" termis, but no idea how loud they are. :scratch:

[Gadget]

Just how loud is 105db? I have "race" termis, but no idea how loud they are. :scratch:

I have straight through carbon termis on my M600. I usually get measured at 98 or 99 db.

[gary tompkins]

Just how loud is 105db? I have "race" termis, but no idea how loud they are. :scratch:

I have straight through carbon termis on my M600. I usually get measured at 98 or 99 db.

Depends on make and length of can. Low level ovals are quieter than high level round cans, possibly due to longer silencer and greater area of wadding? Sil's and WRP high level rounds are mental without extra baffles, and are usually sold as 105db cans. DP high level's are also fairy quite as they have a long can, which often leads to the 'wheel barrow' effect on tail chopped bikes.

[J.P]

Maybe we could get a noise tester for the UKMOC Weekender for a 'Loudest' bike test ?

[slob]

Ade so would have won that a couple of years ago. The fact he's moved to Australia may not count him out, it'll probably still be louder than some.

[J.P]

Looking like Cadwell Park is well in front at the moment. Keep 'em coming.

[Capo]

Why is there a 105db limit, the place is miles from anywhere, Mallory I could understand. Wasn't like that when Charlie owned it.

[J.P]

105 db's seems to be the norm for a lot of the tracks nowadays. Seems the councils don't like the throb of a v-twin carrying across the countryside. Can't understand why .....

[rollo22]

I think were being victimized
Its the rice munchers that upset the council not the deep throb of the mighty twin

[Chris & Nean]

If at all possible I'm in, Cadwell Park looks incredible, it looks like our very own Lagoona Seka right here in the UK, it needs to be in school holidays though! if at all possible.

[yantheman]

I would like to join if I am not too rubbish....is Rockingham a bit closer to London? Riding all the way to Cadwell park and back after a long track day is a bit daunting.... whats the opinion on here? Same day? Or stay overnight in B & B?

[Jim66a]

My old s2r 1000 with full arrow system without baffles in just squeeked through cadwell's noise test at bang on 105db.

[JerryXt]

stay overnight one way or go in a van - you will be crackered after the day and not really needing another couple of hours on the bike!

BTW, everyone starts somewhere.

[yantheman]

Thanks Jerry, in this case either track would be good for me... may be I can hook up with a few Londoners and share the cost of hiring a van :D

[Gadget]

We stayed in a very friendly pub last time up there. It made it more of an occasion.

[Albie]

Maybe we could get a noise tester for the UKMOC Weekender for a 'Loudest' bike test ?

You know I will beat you at that. Not the acceleration though LOL

[J.P]

Yes, we still need that little drag race don't we. No Alcohol this time.

[seby]

Thanks Jerry, in this case either track would be good for me... may be I can hook up with a few Londoners and share the cost of hiring a van :D
for june
am your man! :D

[gary tompkins]

We stayed in a very friendly pub last time up there. It made it more of an occasion.

Ditto

I went to the Morini owners trackday at cadwell 3 years on the trot. Always stayed at a B&B the night before and after the track day, as this event was more the annual Morini get together + trackday & AGM all rolled into one weekend.

Three Horse shoes at Glouceby (sp?) used to have camping on site - not sure if they still do?

Also stayed at a pub called the White Heart a few miles from the track

The ride up on thursday night was always a blast... ah the A15 via Sleaford... Morini heaven :)

[J.P]

Still plenty of opportunity to pick that racetrack !

[Capo]

Ditto

I went to the Morini owners trackday at cadwell 3 years on the trot. Always stayed at a B&B the night before and after the track day, as this event was more the annual Morini get together + trackday & AGM all rolled into one weekend.

Three Horse shoes at Glouceby (sp?) used to have camping on site - not sure if they still do?

Also stayed at a pub called the White Heart a few miles from the track

The ride up on thursday night was always a blast... ah the A15 via Sleaford... Morini heaven :)

I think it would be an excellent idea to combine the national meet with the trackday, certainly worthy of consideration.

[nambduke]

.......I'll be on ruddy holiday again.......I'd love to try Cadwell again......it must be 25yrs since I rode round there!!!

Any other dates available??

Regards,
Mark

[J.P]

Mark, there are other dates that companies are running but not that are ideal for the club or on a Monday actually.

[J.P]

bump.........

[JerryXt]

JP, when is the decision being made and when are firm commitments needed by?

[J.P]

It'll be early to mid-January when the initial payment and booking will be confirmed.
I'll decide which track is the winner then, but it's looking like Cadwell is in the lead by enough at the moment.

[gary tompkins]

J.P.

Any chance you could ask the organisers at Cadwell if the trike will be allowed?

[slob]

Blimey, now that's what I call optimistic GT!

[gary tompkins]

Blimey, now that's what I call optimistic GT!

Why... do you think the request will be turned down?

Don't think I'll have solo by then (plan to flog it) so if trike isn't allowed I'm buggered :worried:

[slob]

I'd be surprised if they'd allow you to circulate with two-wheelers on safety grounds, probably without even considering it properly... can you picture a trackday where cars and bikes where allowed out together? that said, I imagine your ideal lines would be quite different to most bikes.
Then again asking costs nothing and if you don't ask... you won't get.

[Albie]

I'd be surprised if they'd allow you to circulate with two-wheelers on safety grounds, probably without even considering it properly... can you picture a trackday where cars and bikes where allowed out together? that said, I imagine your ideal lines would be quite different to most bikes.
Then again asking costs nothing and if you don't ask... you won't get.

Nurbergring :biggrin:

[slob]

Make yer mind up, a fortnight ago it was Spa!

[gary tompkins]

Fair enough - I'll give it a miss

Wouldn't want to hold anybody up :rolleyes:

[J.P]

I think we can all be sure that a trike just won't be allowed, BUT, I've asked anyway and I'll let you know.

[Capo]

I'd be surprised if they'd allow you to circulate with two-wheelers on safety grounds, probably without even considering it properly... can you picture a trackday where cars and bikes where allowed out together? that said, I imagine your ideal lines would be quite different to most bikes.
Then again asking costs nothing and if you don't ask... you won't get.

Back in the days before 'track days' (& Health & Safety), you could turn up, pay 2/6 and circulate all day with what ever else was there.

[pegboy]

J.P

Count me in, I will be away from the 20th Jan for 7 weeks so please let me know when a deposit is required.

Many Thanks

[J.P]

Sorry, Gary, NO TRIKES.

[JerryXt]

can Gadget put a bell on the front of his bike so we can tell when he's about to dive underneath in a corner?

[scrapps]

Hi jerry hows it going matey... looking forward to next years trackdays with the ss.

[JerryXt]

Scrapps, yes, going well! We should do a few next year - the ones I enjoy most are where there's a bunch from here having a laugh rather than being uber competitive d*cks.

Lucrezia has some lovely new termis on - I got some ti sleeves instead of the standard carbon and had the pipes polished - satinised according to Mark. She's looking very, very nice!

Got a new toy to play with over the winter - the previous owner is a really nice guy - literally spent Desmo money on his 749R - I kid you not, this thing produces more power than Lanzis race bike. But it went down a few trackdays ago and needs a bit of love to get it back to 100% condition.

Little asbo has a new frame going on at the moment - the one that matches the 998S lump, so she'll be a proper 998S. Sean found that the head bearings were tight and notchy, which wasn't helping turning in, or feedback in the bends - funny as I was always complaining that it was hard to turn in and I didn't trust the front in corners :D Getting some shorter offset yokes to help it turn more quickly and the engine is having a refresh and some head work.

I'll likely bring both bikes to the trackday and you must take asbo out at some point. JP too! Gadget is welcome as long as he promises not to ride it like his 583...

[J.P]

Jerry, jeez, you make my spending regimes look positively sparse !
Carry on !

[scrapps]

Wow jerry what a lot of bling. i am going to get forks and rear shock reworked by k-tec and get a wavey disc and pads for the ss thats my budget blown... then sort ground clearance after 1 or 2 trackdays when i have saved up again.
it would be great to see you again maybe at cadwell and also brands. i am doing brands first to help set the bike up on a track i know well.(hottrax doing brands gp again):D
hope to keep up and maybe pass gadget next year.(only if he dont get a faster bike)

[JerryXt]

Wow jerry what a lot of bling. i am going to get forks and rear shock reworked by k-tec and get a wavey disc and pads for the ss thats my budget blown... then sort ground clearance after 1 or 2 trackdays when i have saved up again.
it would be great to see you again maybe at cadwell and also brands. i am doing brands first to help set the bike up on a track i know well.(hottrax doing brands gp again):D
hope to keep up and maybe pass gadget next year.(only if he dont get a faster bike)

not bling, just required to keep me the right way up :)

Good idea going for the suspension first - it's where you'll get most benefit. That race shock David was twiddling with was incredible compared to the standard road one, but for all its adjustability, he only needed a click of compression from what it had been set to.

When are you out next? I'm (track) bikeless for the moment, but should get something back together for the Spring. And seriously, take asbo out - Gadget won't be passing you then!

JP, I've been lusting after that little 749 for a long time. When it came up for less than an 848...

[J.P]

But Jerry you're missing the obvious, and 848 is a whole 99 more than a 749 !

[JerryXt]

...but strangely a whole 20bhp down??? :chuckle:

[scrapps]

Remember JP power is nothing without control..... :thumbsup:

i am working on control thru the corners before i go for better power,as i will only go to fast and fall off with loads of bhp...

cheers for the offer of a run out on asbo jerry i would love to try it.... :on:

[JerryXt]

next time we're on a track together then - looking forward to it! Hoping to do at least two a month during the summer next year.

[J.P]

Good to hear it.
NOW STOP HI-JACKING MY THREAD. :)

[gary tompkins]

Sorry, Gary, NO TRIKES.

Fair enough - thanks for asking

[scrapps]

Sorry JP. hi-jacking over...
Anyway you must be near sorting this now ? cadwell,no trikes,lots of monsters(and monster owners trackbikes)sunny weather, great fun and no crashes.:thumbsup:

[J.P]

Early January is the initial booking date. Might as well run this thread till then.

[J.P]

Ladies & Gents , keep the votes coming please

[J.P]

Come one people, keep the votes coming.

[gixer ged]

Hi everyone.I'm moving to Hungary next year only 15kms from the new GP track at Savoly,how about that for a club trackday?

[Kato]

Hi everyone.I'm moving to Hungary next year only 15kms from the new GP track at Savoly,how about that for a club trackday?


Hope you get some chips with that savoly :)

[johnny fontana]

yes I know im thick but im a new member can you tell me how to post new posts ???
I just bought a monster 900 1999

[singletrack]

yes I know im thick but im a new member can you tell me how to post new posts ???
I just bought a monster 900 1999

Johnny - take a look here:
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=31097

[AndyP]

One more for the novice group please, nearest to me is Rockingham so that gets my vote.

[J.P]

Well after the Christmas excess there's only just over a week before I book the trackday.
Cadwell is looking like the one. Get voting if you have a choice.

[slob]

Laguna Seca!

[J.P]

Maybe for 2010 Slob....

[slob]

how much fun can you have with your clothes on?
http://gotbluemilk.com/web081218/11//images/MF1A4479.JPG

[J.P]

You don't wanna be getting that corner/ blind dip wrong do you...

[slob]

You don't wanna be getting that corner/ blind dip wrong do you...
no
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0b4KdGnctt1A4/610x.jpg

[JerryXt]

dunno who he is, but his technique is all wrong - should be looking through the corner like the guy on the red bike, not at his front wheel.

My sister is out in SanDiego and I was thinking about going over next year with the family and maybe popping up the coast a bit to do CSS 3 & 4 there. Nice!



:chuckle:

[M600R]

Ride for enjoyment and improve safety margins.

Has anyone taken a look at RIDEDRIVE who do various motorcycle course to help people develop riding skills and safety yet still enjoying the performance of ones machine??

A chap at Circuit Based Training also does machine handling courses tailored to individuals or groups and its all done on the race circuit at Mallory Park. Trackday and skills development that is road biased all in one package just ask for SHAUN.:ukm:

[ladybird]

:bunny: :bunny:

[gary tompkins]

:bunny::bunny::bunny:

[J.P]

ok so this has been quiet for a while, so I thought I'd drop it back in front of you.

Cadwell 3rd of August is looking like the date. Better keep your diaries clear.

[ladybird]

cleared and booked off :)

[NattyBoy]

noted in the diary !