A Sad Day!

[slob]

Got an email from El Presidente last night, as I imagine you all did
Saying the UKMOC trackday was now open to all bikes, including Jap stuff, since he's once again facing a £2K debt.
A bunch of us paid early (right after the last trackday) to try and avoid this happening.

What should happen is 90 Monster riders show up and have a bloody great time, it usually does but suddenly you're all humming and harring and worrying about the weather etc. which presumably will put future events in jeopardy.

Get on with it and bloody book... even if you have to get a mate with A.N.Other to come along.

Those of you only prepared to spectate...
WHY?! get it booked! or next year there'll be no trackday to spectate at!

STOP MAKING LAME EXCUSES!

Terry, you have my full support and if I have to pay double to stop Mrs.FB going mental just let me know, I'm fairly sure several others will feel the same.

rant over

[singletrack]

Indeed It is a very sad day. :worried:

Come on - last year's track day was great fun.

Even if you are as slow as a snail (like me) you will enjoy it and get lots out of it.

You are not likely to ruin your pride and joy unless you try and ride like a DD racer!

[Kato]

Rob, I'd love to do the track day unfortunately the thought of riding there and back with a bit more riding round a track when I get there is just not doing it for me, if it were at a track closer to home where if I did break my bike A: I would be able to get back and B: getting the bike recovered would not cost a fortune I’d be signed up already. 250 mile round trip plus track miles in one day, no thanks.

[Gilps]

You are not likely to ruin your pride and joy unless you try and ride like a DD racer!

Are you trying to imply that we crash a lot? I haven't crashed for ages now! It's people like Zimbo that get the rest of us a bad name.

Serioulsy though, if you are in two minds about Mallory then stop deliberating and just do it. I did my first track day there last year and absolutely loved it. Great people, great weather (booked again apparently), great fun.

[Gilps]

Rob, I'd love to do the track day unfortunately the thought of riding there and back with a bit more riding round a track when I get there is just not doing it for me, if it were at a track closer to home where if I did break my bike A: I would be able to get back and B: getting the bike recovered would not cost a fortune I’d be signed up already. 250 mile round trip plus track miles in one day, no thanks.

Have you looked into van hire. Round here it can be as low as £50 per day.

[slob]

Rob, I'd love to do the track day unfortunately the thought of riding there and back with a bit more riding round a track when I get there is just not doing it for me, if it were at a track closer to home where if I did break my bike A: I would be able to get back and B: getting the bike recovered would not cost a fortune I’d be signed up already. 250 mile round trip plus track miles in one day, no thanks.

If the worst happened and you crashed a bike, someone there would get you home on a van or trailer, that's the club cameraderie you just don't get at many other events.

Also bear in mind no-one is forcing you to ride beyond safe limits, this is the friendliest, most relaxed trackday you could ever do, sadly you may never get the chance....



obviously, the date being the day before a DD weekend, means the fast group possibly being undersubscribed is unfortunate.

[giler]

I feel bad for not participating, unfortunately there is no way I can be away
from work on that date. I really hope Terry doesn't lose out.

[Mostro69]

A sad day for me, because I won't be there, but also a very happy one because my baby will be born by then! Any day now... just on standby.

[kaysee]

Rob, I'd love to do the track day unfortunately the thought of riding there and back with a bit more riding round a track when I get there is just not doing it for me, if it were at a track closer to home where if I did break my bike A: I would be able to get back and B: getting the bike recovered would not cost a fortune I’d be signed up already. 250 mile round trip plus track miles in one day, no thanks.

Kato, What is the problem with a 250 mile round trip plus a few more miles on the track. You have a bike that is made for riding.:scratch: You could spread it over 2 days and camp at the track the night before.
I am only sorry that I wont be there due to the fact that I will be riding around the Austrian tyroll. and it is the first year that the track day is open to all makes too:(

[Chappers]

I'm spectating as I don't have a bike right now but have still booked the day off work and am spending god knows how much on fuel in my very thirsty car just to watch my buddies enjoy themselves on their bikes :thumbsup:

Plus if I did have a bike by then I wouldn't have the spare pennies to pay for the trackday plus I'd be worried of damaging my new toy - I'm such a pussy rider :gay: I also don't own a pair of leathers and ride in textile gear and think you have to have leathers :scratch:

[scrapps]

Well said slob....
I know people have assorted reasons and difficulities why not to do the trackday, but sometimes if you ask you can beg borrow what you need and most people in the club would offer any help they can..last year i borrowed a trailer borrowed a car to pull it and had lots of help from other club members.:thumbsup:
I had one of the best days ever on my bike it was well worth the effort.

P.S. have room booked at local hotel the night before if anybody wants to crash on the floor.

[marchesini]

I second Mr Slob's sentiments.

I really think this will be the last time that the Monster Day will happen so this really is not a DFS 'best ever sale' so make sure you do this one - coz it's gonna be the last one.

If it helps out, I have several sets of leathers that I can loan out for the day if they don't have the right trackday gear - all good stuff (Dainese and Alpinestars) - size 48 - 52. Fit people with between 38 and 42 chest.

Kato, 250 mile round trip is nothing. Obviously, nothing in life is guaranteed - isn't that what is half of the appeal of biking - living on the edge and learning something new everyday and all that? But, this track day really is the gentlest introduction to trackday riding. Everybody there feels the same way about their bikes and nobody wants to crash but there everyone is so helpful so it's really a no brainer...

Do it (you won't regret it).

simon

[JerryXt]

Rob, I'd love to do the track day unfortunately the thought of riding there and back with a bit more riding round a track when I get there is just not doing it for me, if it were at a track closer to home where if I did break my bike A: I would be able to get back and B: getting the bike recovered would not cost a fortune I’d be signed up already. 250 mile round trip plus track miles in one day, no thanks.

Kato, one of the guys is taking a van up from Richmond the night before. I am planning to put the bike in the van and drive up to avoid Missus issues. If you want a lift (from Kingston), PM me.

[JerryXt]

BTW, if there's a shortfall, put me in for a donation.

[bigredduke]

Has anyone put a post on the other ducati sites eg DSC, Ducati up north etc?

[Gilps]

Has anyone put a post on the other ducati sites eg DSC, Ducati up north etc?

It has been posted and discussed on DSC site.

[Zimbo]

Posted on Ducatisti too.

[Montana]

Not having a Duke yet may offend some(I haven't done my DAS yet and will be doing it in August, then getting a 695 very soon after), but I think that a 250 round trip isn't that bad for god sake.

The Bike show at the NEC last year isn't a million miles away from Mallory, and I went upto the NEC on my CG125, OK, it did take just over 3 hours from mid Sussex, but some people will find an excuse not to do something.

A track day dedicated to Ducati riders, sounds like a fantastic idea, I wish I had bike so I could do it.


Andy

[Julie]

Hi

Just wanted to say a few words. It is sad that this has happened - but you can't pressure people to do the track day because they have a monster - and that they are in teh club. I did one track day and that was more than enough - its not my bag. I like off roading Fun and Road riding with my mates stopping for cream teas and sticky buns. I would never go on about how everyone should do that. Its just a shame that the track day isn't hiting the figs but maybe thats just life - the hard core members have done it and a few want to do it again and again - but others dont and thats it.

The club just isnt big enough to fill the track day this year and my guess is that it wont be again. I think this should be the last track day.

I hate feeling like i should book the track day because i'm a member and i have a monster. I dont do every Enduro because i'm a member of the club and have an enduro bike - and i feel no pressure from that club - i wish i didnt feel pressure from this club.

Julie

[fatbloke]

I second Mr Slob's sentiments.

I really think this will be the last time that the Monster Day will happen so this really is not a DFS 'best ever sale' so make sure you do this one - coz it's gonna be the last one.

If it helps out, I have several sets of leathers that I can loan out for the day if they don't have the right trackday gear - all good stuff (Dainese and Alpinestars) - size 48 - 52. Fit people with between 38 and 42 chest.

Kato, 250 mile round trip is nothing. Obviously, nothing in life is guaranteed - isn't that what is half of the appeal of biking - living on the edge and learning something new everyday and all that? But, this track day really is the gentlest introduction to trackday riding. Everybody there feels the same way about their bikes and nobody wants to crash but there everyone is so helpful so it's really a no brainer...

Do it (you won't regret it).

simon
so why haven't you sent me a cheque yet??????????????????????????

[Julie]

Also not everyone has the spare cash to spend on the track day and shouldnt have to say that is the reason why they are just going along to watch.

[CK & AK]

AK would have loved to have done this as would Bones too, but its still as AK said right back when the date came out - not with a qualifier race meeting the next day for the race bikes :(
He would be mortified if anything happend to put either rider off the grid - and we cant afford the fuel to go 'up' country and then 'down & across' over the same weekend, for the van.

[Chappers]

He would be mortified if anything happend to put either rider off the grid - and we cant afford the fuel to go 'up' country and then 'down & across' over the same weekend, for the van.

Precisely, I'm driving from Manchester to Mallory to spectate then following Gilps back to his place (oooeerr) in Wiltshire, then up early to scank a lift with Gilps over to Castle Coombe for DD and then drive back to Manchester Sunday :worried:

[Chappers]

Did the majority of members who were jumping up and down begging Terry to put on another trackday this year actually stand by their word and part with their money or is it just a pure lack of interest this year?

[marchesini]

so why haven't you sent me a cheque yet??????????????????????????

Actually, Mr FB - I was actually true to my word and sent a bank transfer on Monday directly after we spoke. So by my reckoning, the funds should be in your account sometime in mid-October?? Isn't that how long it takes?

Seriously, I did pay and it's somewhere in cyberspace now.

Honest

simon

[Chappers]

Actually, Mr FB - I was actually true to my word and sent a bank transfer on Monday directly after we spoke. So by my reckoning, the funds should be in your account sometime in mid-October?? Isn't that how long it takes?

Seriously, I did pay and it's somewhere in cyberspace now.

Honest

simon

4-5 working days and good boy :bunny: :thumbsup:

[scrapps]

Hi

Just wanted to say a few words. It is sad that this has happened - but you can't pressure people to do the track day because they have a monster - and that they are in teh club. I did one track day and that was more than enough - its not my bag. I like off roading Fun and Road riding with my mates stopping for cream teas and sticky buns. I would never go on about how everyone should do that. Its just a shame that the track day isn't hiting the figs but maybe thats just life - the hard core members have done it and a few want to do it again and again - but others dont and thats it.

The club just isnt big enough to fill the track day this year and my guess is that it wont be again. I think this should be the last track day.

I hate feeling like i should book the track day because i'm a member and i have a monster. I dont do every Enduro because i'm a member of the club and have an enduro bike - and i feel no pressure from that club - i wish i didnt feel pressure from this club.

Julie

I dont think anybody is trying to bully people into going on the trackday, people seem to be offering help and support. We are trying to save FB from making a loss..

[S4 MAD]

no pressure heh.


Those of you only prepared to spectate...
WHY?! get it booked! or next year there'll be no trackday to spectate at

[fatbloke]

Actually, Mr FB - I was actually true to my word and sent a bank transfer on Monday directly after we spoke. So by my reckoning, the funds should be in your account sometime in mid-October?? Isn't that how long it takes?

Seriously, I did pay and it's somewhere in cyberspace now.

Honest

simon

Thanks Dude

[fatbloke]

Hi


The club just isnt big enough to fill the track day this year and my guess is that it wont be again. I think this should be the last track day.

Julie

Julie your not under any pressure at all, I'm getting to get all those nice people
on the fence off it.
Last year I said it would be the last and many members asked me to do it again.
Its a shame that some of those who pressured me to run it again have been unable to
go this year..
Your very right this should be the last one,
Please dont think your under pressure you more than support the club in many other ways.

Terry

[scrapps]

Not my message.. just that most people are offering help and should not be called bullys for doing so. each to there own if you dont want to go dont if you want to go and need help/advice/support there are some members willing to give it...

[Spike]

It's as Slob said a great day out with like minded people.
If we have to pay a bit more El President let me know.

[Rogerg]

Sorry El Pres - I truly wish I could make it - what with getting the Hypermotard and all.

If it helps I've got a 1 or 2 bike trailer someone can borrow FOC. I'm down in West Sussex near Whiteways Lodge (Bury Hill)

PM me if interested.

[Stu Pid]

The thought of driving there and back aint rocking my boat much, but Im willing to pay towards a van to deliver my bike and take it back, the vans can get three bikes in so between three of us it wouldnt cost much, plus Ill drive you their and back if you dont live that far from me, or you can ride to mine, bikes on the van, up we go in my car, same for the way home.

[slob]

Julie: sorry, as FB says, I'm trying to push the fence-sitters.
I accept that my track addiction is way past what most members feel.
Besides your photography skills make your spectatorship a vital part of the proceedings/experience for others.
I also understand the financial restrictions some feel, I didn't do the first one because I couldn't afford a set of leathers at the time.
This will almost certainly be the swansong anyway, so as long as we can avoid Terry going bankrupt, I'll shut the hell up.

Stu Pid: The ride up there can be glorious, if you avoid sitting on a motorway from A-B. Open a road atlas and pick a mixture of A&B instead(If you don't have any luck involving a plan with a van)

[Stu Pid]

Stu Pid: The ride up there can be glorious, if you avoid sitting on a motorway from A-B. Open a road atlas and pick a mixture of A&B instead(If you don't have any luck involving a plan with a van)[/QUOTE]

Going up their aint what would bother me, its the ride back really, but hey, Im not ducking it, if I have to, I will, Im well looking forward to it, my first track day.

Road Atlas? whats that? Tom Tom Rider yes, atlas, noooooooooo :thumbsup:

[DavidEJM]

I'm a bit of newbie (born again biker that is) but would certainly come were it not for existing commitments. It would be a shame if it doesn't happen another year, maybe every other year would encourage enough support?

Could you get some indication of numbers and payment in advance another time? or does it need to be booked so far in advance that this is not practical?

I hope it goes ahead, everyone enjoys themselves and that costs are met FB

[gary tompkins]

Also not everyone has the spare cash to spend on the track day and shouldnt have to say that is the reason why they are just going along to watch.


Amen to that....

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?p=214599#post214599

My plan to attend the day to spectate is now officially bolloxed :mad:

[benson]

Sorry to read that GT - and sorry to hear that the track day is undersubscribed. I echo what Julie said - it's simply not my bag anymore, 10 years ago maybe but not now and not on my monster. I don't even have a two piece that zips together anymore! This is about choice and shouldn't be abouot people being made to feel pressure. I will be there to support and watch because that's what I want to do, and to take pics with my new camera. FInances are stretched enought with the new bike and the usual stuff, but my mind probably wouldn't be changed anyway - free choice is what counts here...

[nambduke]

Holidays get booked very early in our household so I'm unable to attend this year, however!!

Being out of pocket shouldn't happen to Terry, so I'm willing to donate £20 via paypal to him for the sterling work he does promoting the UKMOC site and activities. Hope the rest on the forum feel the same and offer the same donation!!

Terry, PM me with your paypal address details and I'll pay you my donation tonight!

Best regards,
Mark

[scrumpster]

Sorry to read that GT - and sorry to hear that the track day is undersubscribed. I echo what Julie said - it's simply not my bag anymore, 10 years ago maybe but not now and not on my monster. I don't even have a two piece that zips together anymore! This is about choice and shouldn't be abouot people being made to feel pressure. I will be there to support and watch because that's what I want to do, and to take pics with my new camera. FInances are stretched enought with the new bike and the usual stuff, but my mind probably wouldn't be changed anyway - free choice is what counts here...

Same here really, plus I have no spare cash what with my house possibly falling down and all!! I am putting all my money into the monster, plus I wouldn't want to risk crashing my new bike :worried:

[DavidEJM]

Holidays get booked very early in our household so I'm unable to attend this year, however!!

Being out of pocket shouldn't happen to Terry, so I'm willing to donate £20 via paypal to him for the sterling work he does promoting the UKMOC site and activities. Hope the rest on the forum feel the same and offer the same donation!!

Terry, PM me with your paypal address details and I'll pay you my donation tonight!

Best regards,
Mark


I'd do that too.

I'd consider it a 'subscription' as is common with other clubs I belong to.

Shouldn't be any need for any individual to be out of pocket.

PM me the address too. I'll be away for the weekend so will next check in on Monday.

DM

[Chappers]

I'm up for making a donation :)

[singletrack]

I can't make it to the track day at all - I wish I could. I'm happy to help though.

[scrapps]

I think the trackday is worth every pound and more so i have no problem with making a donation.:thumbsup: if we need to pay a bit extra to keep jap bikes away so be it.:nash:

[Mostro69]

As I mentioned before on this thread, I won't be attending this year, as much as I'd love to, but in the hope of not letting the UKMOC track day die next year, I'll drop 20 sheets into the pot as well... Terry, PM me the paypal address please.

[scrapps]

Practice when you can ??

<a href='http://www.holylemon.com/Brum-Brum--p53.html' target='_blank'><img src='http://files.holylemon.com/14566JJx/images/thumbs/turn.jpg' border='0' alt='Brum Brum!'><br>Brum Brum!</a>

[fatbloke]

Thanks very much for all your kind offers I really don't want to ask for money,
and will not be accepting any of the very generous donations offered.
All we need is a few more entrants I know I'm really getting on some members
nerves (sorry Julie).
But I was put under a lot of pressure last year to run the trackday all I need is
the people who said they wanted the trackday to hop off the fence and take part.
All the spectators who take the time and effort to come along and watch us chumps
wizz round and round are absolutely invaluable and make the event what it is.
A Club event that happens to take place at a race circuit.
I totally understand there a host of good reasons NOT to do the trackday including
family commitments, work commitments, expense, clothing, transport, and
just plane I have absolutely no interest in a trackday whatsoever.
But we have over 2000 members and 85 is less than 5% of the membership
I made a mistake and thought it would sell easier.
But Julie i promise you this after the 27th I will never ever again mention the UKMOC Trackday
on this or any other web site so you'll be free from my constant whining.


By the way we still have some places left

BOOKING FORM (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/downloads/trackday07.pdf)

[slob]

...i promise you this after the 27th I will never ever again mention the UKMOC
on this or any other web site...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[squiffything]

Terry don't you dare! It's guys like you who are prepared to put themselves out for the sake of others that keep the club running the way it does. Where oh where would we be if we didn't have our chubby cuddly (well for the girls anyhoo) leader at the helm sorting and organising days like the track day.

[nambduke]

Thanks very much for all your kind offers I really don't want to ask for money,
and will not be accepting any of the very generous donations offered.


Terry,
The offer of a donation was offered in true recogonition of your devotion to the site and our participation on the various events organised. I know you haven't asked for anything, I just though it was something I could do to help! The offer is there and will remain there if you are out of pocket!
All the best,
Mark

[SazzaG]

If it helps I've got a 1 or 2 bike trailer someone can borrow FOC. I'm down in West Sussex near Whiteways Lodge (Bury Hill)

PM me if interested.

I can even tow it for anyone who's desperate! I'm driving up early that morning to spectate, so if anyone's in the west sussex area, and wants a lift, just let me know.

Saz

[fatbloke]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

sorry missed the word trackday out

soz

[singletrack]

Freudian slip? :cry:

[slob]

sorry missed the word trackday out

soz

Phew!

Met your pal Mickey 9 points at the Ace this evening, riding a tidy yellow M900 but doesn't have a computer.

[fatbloke]

Met your pal Mickey 9 points at the Ace this evening, riding a tidy yellow M900 but doesn't have a computer.

Or many marbles

[JayT]

Just as a suggestion, is there any way that two people can go halfies on the trackday, where only one of the two people can be on track at one time. Maybe wear specific coloured arm bands, so say if the two yellow arm bands are on track simultaneously, there summit dodgey going on. This will help reduce cost.... I'd be intrested as I'm a skint student and cant really afford £120 on a ride out, thats a lot of tins of beans and pot noodles you know!

[fatbloke]

thats a hell of an idea








a crap one, but it is an idea


back to the pot noodles student

[banditloon]

My lame excuse is having no bike... Hurrah :(

I hate nails... :thumbsdown: And I hate holidays!

[David Matthews]

Just as a suggestion, is there any way that two people can go halfies on the trackday, where only one of the two people can be on track at one time. Maybe wear specific coloured arm bands, so say if the two yellow arm bands are on track simultaneously, there summit dodgey going on. This will help reduce cost.... I'd be intrested as I'm a skint student and cant really afford £120 on a ride out, thats a lot of tins of beans and pot noodles you know!

My daughter says you must be loaded, pot noodles were beyond their budget. Staple diet was pasta flavoured with tomato sauce

[Julie]

Thanks very much for all your kind offers I really don't want to ask for money,
and will not be accepting any of the very generous donations offered.
All we need is a few more entrants I know I'm really getting on some members
nerves (sorry Julie).

BOOKING FORM (http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/downloads/trackday07.pdf)

Its not getting on my nerves i want you to get the places booked and not be out of pocket.

I guess the weather is another factor in the numbers issue isnt it?

I'm skint now anyway as jenny and I have just returned from an off road navigation compertion in the pyrennese. (we came 4th by the way!) and were called 'the peanut smugglers'
I wish i could get excited about teh track day at mallory - but its just not my thing it doesnt light my fire but i dont want to feel guilty if i just come along to watch.

[fatbloke]

I dont want to feel guilty if i just come along to watch.
Bring cake that will wash any guilt away (so I'm told)

[Gilps]

Julie - yours were were by far the best photos taken last year. I still have one of yours, taken at Edwinas, as my background. I hope you'll be taking some more this year.