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It was only parked up in the garage for a week and when I jumped on it to go for a ride this morning all I got was a whine sound and then nothing. When I tried again it was just making a very quick ticking sound (starter ?)
I charged the battery, put it back in and it nearly 'bit' first time but nowhere near it after :cry:
Any suggestions (please keep it simple as I am rather mechanicaly inpept :fou:
Thank you in advance
benson
19-03-2006, 06:49 PM
To me it sounds suspiciously like a knackered battery - I had a dodgy battery in my firebalde that died as soon as the bike realised it hadn't been out for a few days. I remember that ticking noise all too well. Was it fully charged?
To me it sounds suspiciously like a knackered battery - I had a dodgy battery in my firebalde that died as soon as the bike realised it hadn't been out for a few days. I remember that ticking noise all too well. Was it fully charged?
Yes, the needle went all the way, first time i've had this kind of problem in 4 and a half years, bugger. I take it its just the age of the battery?
Yorkie
19-03-2006, 07:52 PM
Check the level of the fluid! Check that the plates are straight!
Charge it over night, the battery may just be under charged a little.
Optimates and the like are great quite a few people use them just to condition the batteries.
If you still dont get the charge then jump start it and then take it for a long run out!
Its happened to me a few times, i just jump start it with the car!
Yorkie.
Come on with the suggestions not to jump start it! If all this fails get a new battery!
ricky
19-03-2006, 08:09 PM
I had a problem with startin my m620ie and it turned out to be just a fuse!! It was the big one behind the batt under the seat!! oh and i had bought a new batt before i found out!! :cry: I would of saved alot of dosh if i had took it to someone who knows what there doin first!!
GULLY
19-03-2006, 08:45 PM
Hi guys
I had this problem on mine just a little while ago. I found the best way to get her started was:
1. clean the plugs
2. give her 2 twists on accelarator
3. no choke at first as it will flood
4. turn her over 4 times, if she does not go, wait 2 mins pull out choke and she should go
That worked on my one.
Good luck
Gully:devil:
gary tompkins
19-03-2006, 08:59 PM
Check the level of the fluid! Check that the plates are straight!
Charge it over night, the battery may just be under charged a little.
Optimates and the like are great quite a few people use them just to condition the batteries.
If you still dont get the charge then jump start it and then take it for a long run out!
Its happened to me a few times, i just jump start it with the car!
Yorkie.
Come on with the suggestions not to jump start it! If all this fails get a new battery!
Be careful doing this and only use it as a last resort. The high current surge of a car battery can do serious damage to ignition/regulator units. A mate had his iginition on his 1000ss fried by a nice man from the AA, after a breakdown callout. The bike died in the middle of nowhere - refusing to start, and the AA guy assumed a flat battery was the problem. He proceeded to hook up a car type booster starter pack, and when he switched it on both ignition units exploded and caught fire! :shocked: Turned out a loose battery earth lead was the problem, and the booster current tried to earth itself through the ignition units :dunce:
At 4 1/2 years I would say the 600's battery is well past it's best. Especially if it's not been kept on an optimiser when parked up.
Thanks all, I'll try charging it overnight as suggested, if not a new one it is
Yorkie
19-03-2006, 11:03 PM
GT,
Have heard that this maybe a problem, but to be quite honest i have done it loads of times! I tend not to ride the Monster for a while (Work) and then try and start her!
Has anyone actually fried their stuff doing it, i have also jump started my mates 748R with his car!!
Im quite interested!
Yorkie.
Jump started my 620 a couple of times from my car,not a problem.
Best thing is leave the jump leads/pack on for about 2-5mins 1st to allow battery voltage to equalize before starting.
STIVH
20-03-2006, 12:10 AM
Might sound obvious but never have your car/van etc running just use the battery cold as there should be more than enough charge in a/the donor battery to start your bike under normal conditions.
If you have to run it to charge the battery first then do so but take your ignition fuse out on the bike before you start to run it through the leads.
When or/and if the bike is running test it to see that the battery is charging if not check your wireing and remember if it's an early 600 your alternator nut might be loose which could be a reason for the lack of charge?
Hurrah! Charged up the battery overnight, popped it back in and it fired up first time. Monsters, don't you just love 'em:thumbsup:
Thanks all
DesmoDog
27-03-2006, 08:18 PM
Well I really like the simplicity of the heat plugs etc etc, so I did all of that yesterday, sprayed a good 2 secs worth of ralgex (whatever its called - Easystart) into the horns, teisted the throttle, did the funky chicken and did it start? Well, no.
Arse! I really hate my bike.
Looked in the book of lies and it seems I have to have a three spanner ranking just to get the damned tank off, and thats before I start fiddling with float bowls.
Anybody got any quick fix ideas that don't include me taking a hammer to the bastard and buying something cheaper and more reliable?
P.S. I also took the little yellow box out and frowned at it.
P.P.S I also tried to bump start the fat bastard to no avail, but my neighbour did comment on my rather vivid chequered socks. "Like my past" I should have shouted, but only thought of it an hour later. Well it was Sunday.
manwithredbike
27-03-2006, 10:29 PM
sounds like your not even getting a spark. even with dead petrol the easy start should have fired her over. has it been laid up for a while? take out the plugs, clean them, gap them and earth them against the engine with the leads connected. then turn the engine over ans see if there's a spark. if not, try new plugs with a well charged battery. that would be a starting point. i'd leave the float bowls well alone for now. (and the hammer)
Rockhopper
28-03-2006, 09:46 AM
Our bikes both started first time after being standing for over four months so it won't be a petrol gone off problem. Get a plug out and see if it sparking.
You dont need to take the tank off to get at the carbs, just hinge it up but ideally get the bike upright first to avoid straining the hinge or if you cant do that then make sure the tank isnt full.
Where abouts in the world are you?
Phoenix
28-03-2006, 10:34 AM
Check battery terminals - had a problem firing mine up over last few weeks and I didn't need it to happen last weekend. Turn key - click soooo checked terminals and cleaned them up - still click click click.
Hmmm - ahhhh - the negative terminal that connects to the frame under the battery was cruddy so cleaned that one and Voilaaaaaaaaaaaa :)
DesmoDog
30-03-2006, 01:19 PM
All,
Thanks for the comments and stuff - one or two things never heard of or tried so I'm going to look at them first.
i'll try the plugs thang about testing the spark. I had given them a jolly good scrub and pre warmed them but hadn't tested for the spark. Then again, i might just go out and buy some new ones because the cost is low and a spare never does any harm.
Pheonix, I'll also look at the negative, but I have to admit that is stretching my ability and may involve a hammer.
I've go the thing up on a paddock stand so the stress is even accross that rubbish hinge, I was very happy with the paddock stand until I realised just how very wonky my new termis looked. Now I'm ver sad.
I'm in the grim north east.
DesmoDog
06-04-2006, 06:44 PM
Got the damn thing started, thanks everyone that spay start stuff is something else (when used correctly). Took the bike up to the local garage to pump the tyres up and managed to break the bloody valve on the front wheel. I now have a slow flat. Miles ridden this year to date. 2
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