M620ie or M750

[nina]

M620ie or M750

Hi all
I've just passed my test and looking for a bike. I'm 5'4" with shortish legs & most of the bikes i've tried are just too big & i don't want to have a bike messed about with to shorten their height

I've just sat on a M600 & found this one of the very few (only!!) bike i felt comfortable on, i can just about touch the floor and the lightweight was a revelation !!!

Do you think this would be ok for a first bike? Or do you think the 750 would be better, they seem a bit rare though

Is there anything in particular i should look for, apart from service history, when buying?

Thanks for any help you can give

Regards
Bev

[russell]

Hi

Being slightly smaller than you at 5"2 I had the same dilema as you when I was looking for a bike,
after several test rides later and a tip off from a friend I found the 620ie ideal, manly because of its light weight ,the seat height and the way the power is delivered.

Good Luck on finding one.

[nina]

Hi Russell
Do you have the 5 or 6 speed gearbox

I found the 5 speed box had a little difficulty finding neutral, is this normal?

Will the 620 be ok on the motorways for a short time?

Thanks again
Bev

[Mr Cake]

I found the 5 speed box had a little difficulty finding neutral, is this normal?

When cold yes. I've ridden a fuel infected 800 Monster with a 6 speed 'box. I never used 6th and thought the whole bike was terrible.

The 750 is the best all rounder and is an excellent first bike. I've never ridden a 620 but I suppose it'd be fine on the motorway. Go for a year 2000 onwards bike for improved reliability of an already reliable bike.

Dave

PS. Offers on my M750 are always welcome :D

[steviej]

Gonna have to agree with Dave here, the M750 is a top bike, plenty of grunt, looks sort of 'more' finished than the 600 (Oil cooler filling the canyon between the 'Front Pot' and wheel'), and it's not as 'raw' as the 900.

A 1998 750 onwards is fine as they had some American Dollar input to save the day, they're easy to spot as they have twin discs. (Mine's a 1998 model and I've never had a problem in the 5 years I've had it......where's that wood :eek: ).......................

Apparently the 620ie is a lot easier on the wrist regarding the clutch. I'm sure some 620ie jockeys will come along soon and shout up in a short while.

As for things to look for, make sure the belts have been changed within the alotted time period i.e. every 12000 miles or every two years.

Whatever you get you'll love it............................. ;)

[slob]

620: 60 BHP, 750 62BHP + carb icing in winter
I have no problem chasing 900s down the motorway at *** mph and love the light clutch in town.

[A Yerbury]

the 620 has a dry clutch -rattle rattle nice nice, and will run a lot better in cold/damp carb icing temperatures. the 750 will be (average) 800-1000 cheaper and is a lovely bike, perfectly placed between the 6 and 9.

[Scotty]

hummm all depends if you like the puer computerless ness of the carbed 750 or the 'hightec' 620 ,make roughly the same power with less capacity, depends what you use it for for contual all year round use proberly the more modern and perhaps slighly more relable 620 but for a summer play thing maybe the 750
hard choice

[slob]

the 620 has a dry clutch -rattle rattle nice nice, and will run a lot better in cold/damp carb icing temperatures. the 750 will be (average) 800-1000 cheaper and is a lovely bike, perfectly placed between the 6 and 9.
900 & 1000 have a dry clutch 6x,7,8 all have wet clutches.

[nina]

Thanks all

Rob (slob!)
What year is your 620ie? did the 620ie replace the 600 and does the 620 have a lighter clutch that the 600 ??

Cheers
Bev

[slob]

Thanks all

Rob (slob!)
What year is your 620ie? did the 620ie replace the 600 and does the 620 have a lighter clutch that the 600 ??

Cheers
Bev
Mine's '02, I think the change to injection happened in '01 but I'm not entirely sure. I'm afraid I haven't ridden a 600. 620s and 800s from '04 on have a very light clutch, which also has a slipper mechanism that means no engine braking, I tried an S2R and didn't like it but it's a personal preference.
You can get an uprated slave cylinder for ie models which will lighten the clutch a bit too.

[JMo]

All 600's are carburettor, all 620's are EFi - 620 was introduced in 2002 as a model replacement for 600 (and essentally to replace 750, as the 800 was immenent the following year...)

Earlier 750's were carburettor, from 2001 they changed to EFi (like the 900) - as Slob says, not a lot of difference between 620 and 750 power (bhp) wise, but the 750 is more torquey...

As Slob says, 600/620/750/800/S2R all have wet clutches... and from 2004 model year the 620 and S2R have the ATPC clutch that is lighter, and essentailly mimics a slipper clutch.

600/early620/750 have 5 speed gearbox, 800/S2R and 620 from 2004 have 6 speed gearbox - although 6th is essentailly an overdrive for motorways...

Neutral should not be paticularly difficult to find, maybe the particular one you tried was a bit sticky?

There is no real reason to chose a 750 over a 620, unless you particularly like the colour/price - personally I'd go for an EFi rather than a carburettor bike - and post 2002 the Monster range has a new frame with better suspension... leave the older 600's to the Desmo Due guys...

xxx

ps. without sounding like a pedantic moderator, there was a very similar thread to this last week - the search facility in the top menu bar is very good for such FAQ as this...

[mark cross]

mines a 750, beautiful bike, lovely handling. i am 6foot + but a mate is 5`4" and he can ride it no problem. Enjoy whatever you go with. :lol:

[paul620sie]

I have a five speed (no slipper clutch) 620ie. Its fine on the motorway, it will hold 90-95 no trouble, I get tired of the wind long before the bike gives up steam. Five speeds are fine too, I can't see that it needs a six speed box. Very ocasionally finding neutral is an issue but its not that often. As an engineer, i choose an 620ie over a 750 carb bike any day just for the improved reliability.

Hope this helps, Paul

[nina]

Hi
Thanks ever so much everyone....i'm really sorry if these questions have all been asked before, i'll do a search better next time :)

While i think of it though: how do i tell an 2002 upgraded 620ie against an 'old' 2002 620ie?

Now i'm certain about going for one I'm scouring the ads trying to find one; it's gotta be a 620ie & red....

Thanks again, all your help is much appreciated :moto:

Bev

[Scotty]

you might want to try the dsc site if you havent already, i think thers a few mosters going through their boards, just be carefull you dont pick up an x desmo due bike ;)

[JMo]

While i think of it though: how do i tell an 2002 upgraded 620ie against an 'old' 2002 620ie?

Eh?!

All 620's from 2002 are mechanically the same until 2004 model year, when the six speed gearbox and ATPC clutch was fitted.

However, there are basically specification 3 types:

1. The 620 Dark comes with matte black paint, a plastic fuel tank, no seat cowl and a single front disk... (although there were a few that slipped through with twin disks, and a metal tank, just to confuse things).

2. The 620ie - comes in red, yellow, blue or black, has a colour matched seat cowl, metal tank and twin disks.

3. The 620Sie - comes in the above colours, plus grey with red wheels (often referred to as the 'Senna' colour scheme), and has a fly screen, carbon side panels and heel guards, and an alloy swingarm with adjustable ride height.

Jeeeeeeeez I really know too much about these things...

xxx

[Mr Cake]

620: 60 BHP, 750 62BHP + carb icing in winter
I have no problem chasing 900s down the motorway at *** mph and love the light clutch in town.
I have a 750 and I've never had a problem with carb icing, and before you say it I have ridden during the winter months. No problems with the weight of the clutch either.

Dave