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Didge
15-03-2005, 02:02 PM
.......you can't live without.

A useless fact (with a twist) about technology:

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4
feet 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.

Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in
England, and English expatriates built the US railroads.

Why did the English build them like that? Because the first rail
lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad
tramways, and that's the gauge they used.

Why did 'they' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the
tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building
wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?
Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would
break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because
that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.

So who built those old rutted roads? The first long distance roads
in Europe (and England) were built by Imperial Rome for their
legions. The roads have been used ever since. And the ruts? Roman
war chariots first made the initial ruts, which everyone else had to
match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels and wagons. Since
the chariots were made for, or by Imperial Rome, they were all alike
in the matter of wheel spacing.

Thus, we have the answer to the original question. The United States
standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the
original specification for an Imperial Roman war chariot.

Specifications and bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you
are handed a specification and wonder which horse's rear came up
with it, you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman war
chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of
two war-horses.

And now, the twist to the story...

There's an interesting extension to the story about railroad gauges
and horses' behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its
launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides
of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs.
Thiokol makes the SRBs at their factory at Utah. The engineers who
designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter,
but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the
launch site. The railroad line from the factory had to run through a
tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel.
The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the
railroad track is about as wide as two horses behinds.

So, the major design feature of what is arguably the world's most
advanced transportation system was determined by the width of a
Horse's rear.

You can all thank me now.

Mr Cake
15-03-2005, 03:35 PM
Why did the English build them like that?

When George Stephenson designed the Stockton & Darlington Railway in the north of England in 1825, he used a gauge of 4 feet, 8 inches simply because he had been familiar with it on a mine tramway called the Willington Way on the Tyne River below Newcastle. In turn, the Willington Way had been built to this gauge because it was common on roads in the area. After the Stockton & Darlington, Stephenson used the same 4 feet, 8 inches for the Liverpool & Manchester, the world's first railway between major cities. There he widened the gauge by half an inch, to give more lateral play to the flanges.

Archeological excavations at Pompeii revealed the gauge of Roman road vehicles was actually 4'9" and was know as the Romans' common gauge.

Just think where space travel would take us now if Britain had standardised to Isambard Kingdom Brunel's 7' 1/4" which was used on the Great Western Railway until 1892 when it was slowly converted to Stephenson's 4" 8-1/2" gauge.

Sorry Didge.

David French, Network Rail

Didge
15-03-2005, 04:17 PM
Hey! So I'm half inch out of gauge. Gimme a break. I try to educate the riff-raff, no-hopers and ignorant, who spend far too much time on here, and that's the thanks I get, but I won't make a big stink over it. (There's an opening for those of you of a more lavatorial mindset).

A Yerbury
15-03-2005, 04:19 PM
This is what happens when a bona fide anorak encounters a cut/paste wizard...

The Kevlar Kid
15-03-2005, 04:37 PM
There he widened the gauge by half an inch, to give more lateral play to the flanges.

I think I've got too much lateral play in my flanges......
Or it could just be last nights curry.... :D

Didge
15-03-2005, 04:39 PM
This is what happens when a bona fide anorak encounters a cut/paste wizard...

Cut/paste wizard???? How dare you sir! I'll have you know, that I can anorak with the best of them.
For instance, did you know that the world's largest steam locomotives were the American 4-8-8-4 articulated locomotives known as 'Big Boys'.
Note the size of the engineeer in the photo just below the cab, and it gives you an idea of the size of these behemoths.
(The photo is one from my computer files). How's that for anorak?
Bloody cut/paste indeed......

A Yerbury
15-03-2005, 04:42 PM
HMMMM well on principal I never apologise, if I did, then I would, but I dont, so I cant/wont...sorry!

Didge
15-03-2005, 04:44 PM
HMMMM well on principal I never apologise, if I did, then I would, but I dont, so I cant/wont...sorry!

Well....alright...I'll accept your can't/won't non-apology....this time.

Mr Cake
17-03-2005, 11:11 AM
:lol: Anorak - Love it :lol:

Dave